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You got to admit, the veil and mages REALLY DO cause a lot of problems.


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How many assassination attempts Hitler faced and survived despite guy went against entire world i would want to see how many AA would face guy who would go against hated minority and only guy that can save the world.
 

Hitler got lucky. And even that ultimately didn't save him, on account of the fact that as you say, the entire world ended up wanting him dead.


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How many assassination attempts Hitler faced and survived despite guy went against entire world i would want to see how many AA would face guy who would go against hated minority and only guy that can save the world.
 

Godwin's Law initiated!



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Ummmm....Tranquility bad, but necessary?

 

Ok, tranquility is an interesting topic.

 

Is losing your emotions all that bad? Sure, you'll never feel happiness again but that also applies to sadness.

We have seen it being abused by Templars like Alrik but, legally, the terms of its aplication seem resonable. Only on criminals, volunteers or mages who would never have suceeded their Harrowing and, if a mage is not capable of facing a demon, chances are they would have been possessed in the future.

 

People in the game tend to blow this out of proportions. It is understandable to look at it with some uneasiness but I remember Anders claiming Tranquility removed one's ability to reason which is distinctly untrue.
 


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Destroying all mages is the only way to purify Thedas. 

 

It is only when we remove mages that we can move on to annihilate the Qunari.


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Ok, tranquility is an interesting topic.

 

Is losing your emotions all that bad? Sure, you'll never feel happiness again but that also applies to sadness.

We have seen it being abused by Templars like Alrik but, legally, the terms of its aplication seem resonable. Only on criminals, volunteers or mages who would never have suceeded their Harrowing and, if a mage is not capable of facing a demon, chances are they would have been possessed in the future.

 

People in the game tend to blow this out of proportions. It is understandable to look at it with some uneasiness but I remember Anders claiming Tranquility removed one's ability to reason which is distinctly untrue.
 

I agree. It's not my favorite practice, but I do view it as a necessary evil, until we can come up with a more permanent way to forever bind a mage's power, since we now know Tranquility can be reversed.



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Hitler got lucky. And even that ultimately didn't save him, on account of the fact that as you say, the entire world ended up wanting him dead.

Lucky he would be if that was 1-3 attempts and as i said guy went against everyone still he survived many attempts on his life.

 

 

Godwin's Law initiated!

And? Pretty much i gave solid example that you can go against everyone and face many AA still survive hitler is probably best example of it...



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We have seen it being abused by Templars like Alrik but, legally, the terms of its aplication seem resonable. Only on criminals, volunteers or mages who would never have suceeded their

harrowing.

 

 

That last bit I have big problems with. Under the current circle system they should at least be given a choice between death and tranquility. Not arbitrarily declared to be 'weak' and then lobotomized. 

 

Tranquility is a disgusting and abhorrent thing. Though I recognize and respect the circumstances in which it is appropriate(imo) or preferable to the individuals in question. 


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Lucky he would be if that was 1-3 attempts and as i said guy went against everyone still he survived many attempts on his life.

And. Then. He. Died. You have an irritating habit of ignoring the meat of an argument in favor of attacking the bits that aren't central to the point.


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And? Pretty much i gave solid example that you can go against everyone and face many AA still survive hitler is probably best example of it...

It is not a solid example.

 

1) You are comparing someone of a modern setting to your character in a medieval setting. Changes in technology have helped his odds significantly.

 

2) The Allies never tried to assassinate him, in risk of making him a martyr. So all the assassination attempts were done in house where you would face threats from both.

 

3) He didn't start his rise to power preaching the Final Solution like you are, so he was more beloved by the time he reached that step.

 

4) He didn't have any nobility to worry about stepping on their toes while you do.

 

I can continue but I hope I've made my point. Plus regardless of anything else, comparing yourself to Hitler is never a good idea.


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Destroying all mages is the only way to purify Thedas. 

 

It is only when we remove mages that we can move on to annihilate the Qunari.

 

And when the Qunari invade, their cannons will be easily repelled by bows and arrows, their gaatlock and other poisonous gasses can be inhaled thanks to modern Thedas's breakthroughs in immunizations and non-magical medicine. 

 

I mean, the Qunari are gracious hosts who'll happily allow the world to catch up to them technology wise to make for a more even battlefield. Sure, Dworkin had to face Qunari assassins because they weren't happy with his explosives beginning to match theirs, but I'm sure it was because lyrium sand was used and lyrium is associated with magic, and magic is seen as a contagious disease among the Qunari. (Sheperding Wolves quest, Avaraad says this in Act 1.)


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Wait, TKS is saying he's like Hitler and thinks that's a good thing?


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Wait, TKS is saying he's like Hitler and thinks that's a good thing?

Well, one time he did say Hitler is only a bad guy because he lost the war. 



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Wait, TKS is saying he's like Hitler and thinks that's a good thing?

Idiotic though it may be to invite ridicule that way, there's enough logical holes in his "plan" without taking his reductio ad hitlerum bait.



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I remember that. Though I like to believe that it's simply the language barrier. 



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Godwin's Law initiated!

 

Sure looks that way. Considering all other parameters do not fit the situation. A given dictator at the right place and at the right time with a country that felt the pain of a poorly devised treaty doesn't match the Chantry/Templar situation very well.


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And. Then. He. Died. You have an irritating habit of ignoring the meat of an argument in favor of attacking the bits that aren't central to the point.

Well everyone dies but he wasn't killed so i don't see revelant in that point...

 

 

It is not a solid example.

 

1) You are comparing someone of a modern setting to your character in a medieval setting. Changes in technology have helped his odds significantly.

 

2) The Allies never tried to assassinate him, in risk of making him a martyr. So all the assassination attempts were done in house where you would face threats from both.

 

3) He didn't start his rise to power preaching the Final Solution like you are, so he was more beloved by the time he reached that step.

 

4) He didn't have any nobility to worry about stepping on their toes while you do.

 

I can continue but I hope I've made my point. Plus regardless of anything else, comparing yourself to Hitler is never a good idea.

 

1.Well you know that assassins use technology as well and that makes much easier to kill?

 

2)And are mages my allies?

 

3)Yeah because my plan is telling that im villain and super evil mahaha wait?

 

4)He had other politicians so well...

 

LoL hah great so now i compare myself to Hitler lol

 

 

Wait, TKS is saying he's like Hitler and thinks that's a good thing?

Well besides like many you make up things like i compare myself to Hitler besides i don't see Hitler as someone bad he was same as other humans he was hero in his country problem is that he went against everyone and lost thats why he is villain now when some that did not nice things are seen as heroes...

 

Idiotic though it may be to invite ridicule that way, there's enough logical holes in his "plan" without taking his reductio ad hitlerum bait.

 

Sadly only if you seen that what it is not what you want to see you would get that i didn't compare myself to Hitler but one thing is true i don't see him as bad guy.



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It's not the mages fault, it's like they are lights and the demons of the fade are fly's, the fly's are attracted to the light.

It's not as though the mages go yay lets cause some strange goings on by summoning demons to take over our body then blame it on the plot line



#1018
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Well everyone dies but he wasn't killed so i don't see revelant in that point...

Why do I keep forgetting that you're a fracking troll?


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Wait, TKS is saying he's like Hitler and thinks that's a good thing?

 

Yes he is. The other funny thing is that he claims Hitler would be the leader of choice. Considering that Hitler only came to power because we took a first rate country and turn it into a third world country in approx. a decade doesn't fit Dragon Age. 



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Why do I keep forgetting that you're a fracking troll?

Eee ok so i guess Hitler was killed by assassin then because that was argument about but ok im troll just don't write to me problem solved...



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Why do I keep forgetting that you're a fracking troll?

Ok, perhaps this is a sign that you should STOP ENGAGING HIM. Just put him on ignore for God's sake.



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I remember that. Though I like to believe that it's simply the language barrier. 

 

Where is TKS from? 



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@TKS: When I said Allies, I'm referring to the group of nations who banded together to defeat the Axis Nations. America, Britain, China, France, and Soviet Union to name the bigger players.



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Ok, perhaps this is a sign that you should STOP ENGAGING HIM. Just put him on ignore for God's sake.

 

Sounds like solid advise. 


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Hellion Rex

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Where is TKS from? 

I have not a damn clue.