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[Hanako Ikezawa]

Psychopath: a person with a psychopathic personality, which manifests as amoral and antisocial behavior, lack of ability to love or establish meaningful personal relationships, extreme egocentricity, failure to learn from experience, etc.

[TTTX]

I would point out that we do not know for a certainty that the City was already black. It is one of the ways Corypheus' dialogue can be interpreted but not the only one. And, of course, if the City was already black, there are some questions that have to be answered such as: Why did the City appear Golden in the Fade and then black afterwards?

Could be that the Golden city was Golden on the outside, but black on the inside.

[Hellion Rex]

Could be that the Golden city was Golden on the outside, but black on the inside.

True, the golden appearance could have been merely an illusion to hide the corruption within.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

True, the golden appearance could have been merely an illusion to hide the corruption within.

The personification of sin: Looks pretty on the outside, but is nothing but darkness on the inside.

[Hellion Rex]

The personification of sin: Looks pretty on the outside, but is nothing but darkness on the inside.

So the question remains, who set the magisters up? I don't honestly know if it was Dumat.

[Divine Justinia V]

So the question remains, who set the magisters up? I don't honestly know if it was Dumat.

 

I doubt Dumat set them up

[Hanako Ikezawa]

So the question remains, who set the magisters up? I don't honestly know if it was Dumat.

Fen'Harel, maybe?

[MisterJB]

It's possible.

 

I wonder, why not have normal and mage children take joint classes? Mages have acess to an advantages most people on the outside do not: an education.

They are taught to read and write as a matter of fact. While it wouldn't be viable in Ferelden where the Circle is isolated, why not have tutors teach mage kids outside of the Circle where normal kids can attend as well in places such as Kirkwall?

They already teach them in the Circle so, including normal children shouldn't be a stress on their abilities and having a squad of Templars present for the classes should help ensure that no one will turn into an Abomination or take anyone hostage or even plant anti-Circle ideas into their minds.

And coexistence at a young age could turn them into adults more willing to see the other side as human.

[Hellion Rex]

It's possible.

 

I wonder, why not have normal and mage children take joint classes? Mages have acess to an advantages most people on the outside do not: an education.

They are taught to read and write as a matter of fact. While it wouldn't be viable in Ferelden where the Circle is isolated, why not have tutors teach mage kids outside of the Circle where normal kids can attend as well in places such as Kirkwall?

They already teach them in the Circle so, including normal children shouldn't be a stress on their abilities and having a squad of Templars present for the classes should help ensure that no one will turn into an Abomination or take anyone hostage or even plant anti-Circle ideas into their minds.

And coexistence at a young age could turn them into adults more willing to see the other side as human.

Hmmm, perhaps this could be an additional way to fund the Circles, particularly if these are noble non-mage children.

[DKJaigen]

It's possible.

 

I wonder, why not have normal and mage children take joint classes? Mages have acess to an advantages most people on the outside do not: an education.

They are taught to read and write as a matter of fact. While it wouldn't be viable in Ferelden where the Circle is isolated, why not have tutors teach mage kids outside of the Circle where normal kids can attend as well in places such as Kirkwall?

They already teach them in the Circle so, including normal children shouldn't be a stress on their abilities and having a squad of Templars present for the classes should help ensure that no one will turn into an Abomination or take anyone hostage or even plant anti-Circle ideas into their minds.

And coexistence at a young age could turn them into adults more willing to see the other side as human.

 

The nobility are not that stupid mate. Information is power and controlling information is a bit more difficult if every peasant gains an education.

Not to mention the chantry will block this as well. common people reading the chant even the discordant verses and then forming their own opinion. All hell will break loose. 

[MisterJB]

Nobles are one of the few social classes that can afford a tutor. I was more thinking of just including sons and daugthers of peasants for free in return for stronger ties with the community.

[Hellion Rex]

Nobles are one of the few social classes that can afford a tutor. I was more thinking of just including sons and daugthers of peasants for free in return for stronger ties with the community.

Perhaps. Would be an interesting way to connect the two groups. Chantry approved teaching curriculum though, right?

[MisterJB]

The nobility are not that stupid mate. Information is power and controlling information is a bit more difficult if every peasant gains an education.

Not to mention the chantry will block this as well. common people reading the chant even the discordant verses and then forming their own opinion. All hell will break loose. 

This might be the very first sensible post I've seen from you.

Altough I believe the Chantry has been said to hold some classes. The whole thing about the Church not wanting people to read the Bible is just a legend.

[MisterJB]

Perhaps. Would be an interesting way to connect the two groups. Chantry approved teaching curriculum though, right?

 

When was the last time you saw a teaching curriculum free from bias induced by the reigning ideology?

I think so long as the teachs are not asking questions like "If Andraste preached freedom and fought against slavery, why does the Chantry keep mages as slaves" we're in the clear.

[AresKeith]

So the question remains, who set the magisters up? I don't honestly know if it was Dumat.

Dumat could've tried to use the taint for power but had it backfire

[Hellion Rex]

When was the last time you saw a teaching curriculum free from bias induced by the reigning ideology?
I think so long as the teachs are not asking questions like "If Andraste preached freedom and fought against slavery, why does the Chantry keep mages as slaves" we're in the clear.

Oh definitely. However, perhaps you could introduce some Dissonant Verses as well.

[Hellion Rex]

Dumat could've tried to use the taint for power but had it backfire

So...who then created the taint?

[AresKeith]

So...who then created the taint?

 

I dunno

[myahele]

Some say it was the ancient elves that tricked the magisters to enter through a trapped eluvian.

[Cobra's_back]

The nobility are not that stupid mate. Information is power and controlling information is a bit more difficult if every peasant gains an education.

Not to mention the chantry will block this as well. common people reading the chant even the discordant verses and then forming their own opinion. All hell will break loose. 

 

Are they making the decisions or are you? How linear is this situation? Will the player decide which faction they want to support or do you just work for the Chantry? What if the player decides to dismantle the Chantry to reduce its power?

 

Just asking. Much of the decisions rely on the flexibility of the game. Does it really have multiple possible ending or is it just different flavors of one?

[Dean_the_Young]

Hmmm, perhaps this could be an additional way to fund the Circles, particularly if these are noble non-mage children.

 

Depends. Do you want changes to be top-down political maneuverings or bottom-up social reform in approach?

 

Getting a class of nobles accustomed to mages is certainly a way to more quickly get them political supporters in positions of influence. It really doesn't do anything to get them exposed and acclimated with the masses, though, and certainly invites suspicions of the mages unduly influencing the tolerant politicians as a political attack and divider. A top-down technocratic approach, despite the appeals, is often littered with cultural stumbling blocks between the elites who think they know how to fix things and the rest who disagree.

 

Having the classmates be commoners from across the country would spread the acclimation over a much broader pool. Gaining political power would be much slower, except in so much that commoners rising with education can bring forth a new power base, but you would avoid the much easier division of having your primary reformers being a segment of the elite without popular support. Popular change so often a bottom-up initiated process: before sympathetic elites start reforms, a populace willing to let them stick is key.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

The nobility are not that stupid mate. Information is power and controlling information is a bit more difficult if every peasant gains an education.

Not to mention the chantry will block this as well. common people reading the chant even the discordant verses and then forming their own opinion. All hell will break loose. 

Well, if given the power Anora will apparently create a university based on a recently built Orlesian model. And apparently the Chantry is not okay with any of this for roughly the reason you gave. Though on the other hand it's not made clear if those of common birth are allowed to study at this University. (Though I can't see Anora objecting.)

[Cobra's_back]

Well, if given the power Anora will apparently create a university based on a recently built Orlesian model. And apparently the Chantry is not okay with any of this for roughly the reason you gave. Though on the other hand it's not made clear if those of common birth are allowed to study at this University. (Though I can't see Anora objecting.)

 

I like that. Do I need to have her ruler alone or ruler with Alistair?

[MisterJB]

off-topic: Get this, someone actually edited Merrill's entry in the Dragon Age Wiki so it takes her side in her arguments against Marethari.

[Cobra's_back]

off-topic: Get this, someone actually edited Merrill's entry into the Dragon Age Wiki so it takes her side in her arguments against Marethari.

 

Thanks. Sad someone would do that. Good catch.