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[XxPrincess(x)ThreatxX]

I really hope it isn't too much like Origins were the straight characters were important to the plot, could kiss anywhere & had alot of party banter about their romances while non straight characters could easily be killed, had no ways to show affection outside of camp & were ignored in banter apart from some unfunny gay jokes, still disappoints me that Leliana talks so much about her relationship with a male warden but is silent about a female warden despite her seemingly preferring women romantically

[jlb524]

still disappoints me that Leliana talks so much about her relationship with a male warden but is silent about a female warden despite her seemingly preferring women romantically

 

Ugh, no kidding.

 

I made a male Warden once when I played on Xbox (to try and romance Morrigan I only got 1/3rd the way through the game though).  He was a sadistic psychopath that killed everyone he could.  He was a complete ass to Leliana but somehow I got banter between Leliana and Alistair where Alistair was teasing her about being interested in my Warden (which she was somehow even though the romance wasn't active??).

 

I was like wtf...I never got anything like this with my many female Wardens who romanced Leliana.

[XxPrincess(x)ThreatxX]

Ugh, no kidding.
 
I made a male Warden once when I played on Xbox (to try and romance Morrigan I only got 1/3rd the way through the game though).  He was a sadistic psychopath that killed everyone he could.  He was a complete ass to Leliana but somehow I got banter between Leliana and Alistair where Alistair was teasing her about being interested in my Warden (which she was somehow even though the romance wasn't active??).
 
I was like wtf...I never got anything like this with my many female Wardens who romanced Leliana.

Yeah, sucks that the relationship between her & a female warden is completely ignored apart from some optional camp conversations, the Zev/Mwarden romance got referenced more even if it was gay jokes

[The Uncanny]

Yeah... funny how 'we want unique content' often really means 'we want to get more than you geeeeys do'.

 

That's DA2's real crime. For the first time ever we (mostly) got the same. And suddenly brodudes weren't catered for and privileged.

 

Oh noes! Crey-crey! End of worldz!

[jwalker]

Lots of worrying stuff for DA:I.

I know I personaly will have options that please me, most likely more than one. But I'm sure there will be some I will really like and s/he won't be available. Or that s/he will be a NPC. Honestly, not sure what would be more disappointing. 

 

If someone is not available, it' sucks ass.

But a NPC instead of a companion is a different kind of suckage. Your chosen LI (or soon to be ) is a whole experience when is a companion. Not only because of what jlb pointed out already, in terms of dialog and banter, but also in other things like how you play during your quests.

For example, when I played my dude romancing Fenris, I used Sword and Shield spec because that seemed a much better combination with him. Such thing wouldnt' matter at all with a NPC

 

Also, gearing your companions (any of them) adds to your involvement with them. That  simply doesn't exist with a NPC. An NPC LI might feel barely more than a token to comply some sort of quota for "equality". 

[jlb524]

I typically always take my LI with me in party *is lame like that

 

I don't even know why.

[jwalker]

I typically always take my LI with me in party *is lame like that
 
I don't even know why.

orly ?
 
Well, you're not the only one.

[twincast]

And this is what grinds my gears. Nobody should be considered "straight until proven otherwise"... that's a huge mistake. The right should be they have no sexuality until proven otherwise. If you see a dude with a woman or comments for women doesn't necessarily means he's straight. Until he says he's straight, nobody should assume anything.

 

I reallyreally dislike this way of thinking. Seriously.

 

That's how it should be. Doesn't change that it isn't - and won't be for the foreseeable future - among the general populace whose perceptions and expectations "AAA games" (and most entertainment in general) are tailored toward. Therefore it is very much legitimate to interpret fictional characters (of all but the deepest and/or most dedicated works, which, sorry to say, BioWare's games simply aren't) along those lines.

 

My "favorite" example to bring up in such conversations is Soukyuu no Fafner, wherein from the very beginning the two main boys being in love with each other could hardly be laid on any thicker - by "The Girl", no less -, but as long as you don't express it in very explicit words and/or actions (in this case in a Japan-exclusive drama CD and years later in the feature film sequel, respectively), for a large part of the audience what must not be can not be (and "no way the author/developers would mean it that way"), no matter how emotionally the characters in question may look at, scream at and/or hold onto each other. (I'll spare you a longer rant about LGBTQ characters in mainstream Japanese media in general.)

Also, all the obvious "code" used for the various queer characters in A Song of Ice and Fire, despite which (even liberal but apparently not all too attentive) people were still taken aback by Renly and Loras being "made" gay on the TV series. The point being that when non-straight people are represented in works, I don't want bigots to be able to deny it.

 

And Kaidan didn't even have the faintest of hints outside some non-canon code remnants of wholly eradicated possibilities in ME1. And if that isn't enough for you, even word of god (full of lies as that may tend to be with BioWare) agreed before ME3 that he was completely and utterly straight.

[The Uncanny]

 

Therefore it is very much legitimate to interpret fictional characters (of all but the deepest and/or most dedicated works, which, sorry to say, BioWare's games simply aren't) along those lines.

 

No it isn't.

 

Based on that reasoning we'd have no homosexual characters in games, no homosexual relationships in games, no black leads in games, no women leads in games...

[The Uncanny]

And Kaidan didn't even have the faintest of hints outside some non-canon code remnants of wholly eradicated possibilities in ME1. And if that isn't enough for you, even word of god (full of lies as that may tend to be with BioWare) agreed before ME3 that he was completely and utterly straight.

 

And yet he wasn't in ME3! Outlooks can change! Characters can change! Just like people can change!