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Miniditka77

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what your describing is why I don't really like the gun that much...

the argus need the scope and the recoil dampener to make it pinpoint accurate for all 3 shots, and does fantastic damage.
the vindicator needs the recoil dampener and to be in cover to make it pinpoint accurate for all 3 shots, giving you a spare mod slot to play with.
but the Valkyrie needs both the accuracy boost from a scope and the recoil dampener to make is pinpoint accurate,
so why not just take the argus for damage or vindicator for weight?
anybody?

 

The Argus is pretty damn accurate with 100% stability and ADS, even without the scope.  It's actually one of the better anti-mook guns in the game, at least among the non-URs.  It lacks a little against bosses though.

 

The Turian Soldier is probably the best, just because of the higher headshot bonuses.  I think Geth Engineer is a good class for the Valkyrie though.  Overload stagger makes headshots easier, and the Hunter Mode accuracy boosts help with getting double headshots.  The one thing I would say about the Valkyrie is that if you're shooting at anything long-range, hop into hard cover.  It really pumps up the accuracy.



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I don't use it.. because other mods that I feel are more important compete for those slots.. but it is really, really good. Another weapons that thrive with scopes that you wwouldn't think to put them on are the Punisher, Spitfire and Herpderpicane. Fixes all kinds of recoil and spread issues.

 

I second that.  The scoped Talon does hurt its performance against bosses, but it slaughters mooks. Yes, the Talon is pretty accurate already, but if you put the scope on it, the Talon becomes kind of like an Arc Pistol with a 1.5x shield and barrier modifier and a higher ROF.



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what your describing is why I don't really like the gun that much...

the argus need the scope and the recoil dampener to make it pinpoint accurate for all 3 shots, and does fantastic damage.
the vindicator needs the recoil dampener and to be in cover to make it pinpoint accurate for all 3 shots, giving you a spare mod slot to play with.
but the Valkyrie needs both the accuracy boost from a scope and the recoil dampener to make is pinpoint accurate,
so why not just take the argus for damage or vindicator for weight?
anybody?

The argus is a little different animal. Valkyrie will take it's lunch in the DPS department if you can land headshots consistently. Argus I don't think has to be pinpoint accurate on all shots, start at the upper torso and the last round cleaves the head a lot without stability. 

 

And to my main point and most important part of my post, Vindicator sucks anus.



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I used the Valkyrie a few days ago bc of this thread and remembered why I hated it. It's complete and utter trash.. the only ultra rare not worth it's rarity IMO.

Yeah if I landed a headshot.. it devastated the mook.. so what. I'll do the same thing with the Suppressor, which weighs a lot less, and is more accurate. We won't even go into the ****** poor boss performance.

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You know that when you say stuff like this, it insults people who do like it because they have spent the time to learn to use it effectively.

 

I say this, not because I'm a Valkyrie fan (I'm not really), but because I see this kind of casual insult tossed around all the time on BSN. I wonder if you all diss things so readily in real life.

For this reason.

 

The players that post often on this forum as a rule are way better than the average and probably some of the best players in the world for this game.  There is not one weapon of any type, or sort that the really good players can't use that will win games if not decimate games.  The pluses and the drawbacks are obvious to those that have used it.  The comment I've seen the most extolling this weapon is usually 'head shots'.  It's not a light weapon, it's not sure stable to handle. 

 

Now I'm sure if I got you to list all the weapons from top to bottom that the ones on the bottom you would not speak kindly of.  It's an N7 weapon which is not nearly as effective as many other weapons in it;s class.  Hardly anyone uses the thing in all the pug matches I've played, and for good reason.



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Valkire>>>Lancer in both mook and boss killing. Come at me, lancer scrubs.

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Valkire>>>Lancer in both mook and boss killing. Come at me, lancer scrubs.


Mooks.. sure, I agree.

Bosses.. hell no.

Using the holy trinity (AP IV, Extended Barrel, Extended Mag) Lancer shreds bosses in comparison.
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Valkire>>>Lancer in both mook and boss killing. Come at me, lancer scrubs.

 

No, mainly because of accuracy.

 

And no, Lancer isn't for scrubs. Scrubs cry about it's recoil. So go cry somewhere else. :P



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Remember when every week there'd be a thread where everyone would complain about the promotional weapon they got from doing that weeks mission or whatever it was called?
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Mooks.. sure, I agree.
Bosses.. hell no.
Using the holy trinity (AP IV, Extended Barrel, Extended Mag) Lancer shreds bosses in comparison.

Meh, it's single clip dps isn't much better than valk's sustained. The finger hurts less w lancer - only advantage.

@Sinful, yeah, infinite ammo spray and pray is so skill. You haven't provided any video w your supreme recoil control BS BTW.

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Remember when every week there'd be a thread where everyone would complain about the promotional weapon they got from doing that weeks mission or whatever it was called?

 

A complaint thread followed by 3 more within the weekend. I don't miss those threads at all.



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Remember when every week there'd be a thread where everyone would complain about the promotional weapon they got from doing that weeks mission or whatever it was called?


Yeah, yeah it was almost always eagle bitching

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basically, it needs two things to shine: stability and accuracy

 

stability can be gained by certain kit passives(ie: turians), consumables, gear (barrage kit), and weapon mods

accuracy can be gained by certain powers: devastator mode, MM, HM as well as weapon mods (scopes)


I suppose if you are supper pro you could learn to adjust for the stability issues without additional help, but the accuracy is pretty essential unless you plan on shooting everything point blank.

 

the accuracy is important because headshots become your bread and butter. the valk has a 3.00 head shot modifier


also.....


the rumor is that PC haxors have an easy time modifying the weapon's stats....
 

not that I would know....



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Yeah, yeah it was almost always eagle bitching

well to be fair the eagle did suck to start with, it was only after it was buffed repeatedly when it became good (same with arc pistol)


I was the first among  my friends to get my hurricane maxed, and the last to get their valiant maxed. 



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Meh, it's single clip dps isn't much better than valk's sustained. The finger hurts less w lancer - only advantage.

@Sinful, yeah, infinite ammo spray and pray is so skill. You haven't provided any video w your supreme recoil control BS BTW.

you use other weapons than the claymore? I don't believe you 


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People get sore finger from Valkyrie gun?!



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Meh, it's single clip dps isn't much better than valk's sustained. The finger hurts less w lancer - only advantage.

@Sinful, yeah, infinite ammo spray and pray is so skill. You haven't provided any video w your supreme recoil control BS BTW.

 

you use other weapons than the claymore? I don't believe you 

trolololol :P