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dsl08002

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What i want to see however is that bioware put a Little bit more effort to highlight what happened in DAO rather in DA2. for what i have seen on the new webbsite on timeline in DA, there is more reference to DA2 rather DAO, i hope that it doesnt reflects on bioware creating DAI.

 

For example that it will be a ton of reference to DA2 and a tiny tiny small reference to DAO ( which is a better game storywise and quality compared to DA2)

 

So please Bioware if it is possible try to make sure that reference and decisions from the previous game DAO are in fact equal towards DA2 and not like a tiny piece.     


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It's important to appreciate that (1) this is Dragon Age Inquisition and not Dragon Age Origins The Extended Epilogue (so prepare to be disappointed if you think the majority of DA:O will be referenced); and (2) most of the things that happened in DA:O (like DA2) are completely irrelevant in the grand scale of things. 

That being said, DA:O should have more featured in DA:I (IMO) because more things that are important happen in DA:O vs. DA2. The balance isn't major. 

 

Pretty much 3 things worth mentioning happen in DA2: the idol in Act I, whether the Arishok dies in Act II, and the rebellion in Act III. DA:O has at least 4 - the Sacred Ashes, Ruler of Ferelden, Ruler of Orzammar, Anvil of the Void. 


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It's important to appreciate that (1) this is Dragon Age Inquisition and not Dragon Age Origins The Extended Epilogue (so prepare to be disappointed if you think the majority of DA:O will be referenced); and (2) most of the things that happened in DA:O (like DA2) are completely irrelevant in the grand scale of things. 

That being said, DA:O should have more featured in DA:I (IMO) because more things that are important happen in DA:O vs. DA2. The balance isn't major. 

 

Pretty much 3 things worth mentioning happen in DA2: the idol in Act I, whether the Arishok dies in Act II, and the rebellion in Act III. DA:O has at least 4 - the Sacred Ashes, Ruler of Ferelden, Ruler of Orzammar, Anvil of the Void. 

 

Also, the fate of the Architect in Awakenings.



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Well with Origins and awakening there are a lot more things to reference than in DA2 (important world altering things that people would actually talk about, no one cares who Hawke romanced, etc...).



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Also, the fate of the Architect in Awakenings.

 

True, though that's counterbalanced by Corypheus in Legacy. 



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I definitely want to know what happened to the Architect, Corypheus, the disciples, the "urgent matters" thing that Stroud mentioned in DA II and what happened to both Hawke and the damn warden (surviving).



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I definitely want to know what happened to the Architect, Corypheus, the disciples, the "urgent matters" thing that Stroud mentioned in DA II and what happened to both Hawke and the damn warden (surviving).

 

All I could think when I heard "urgent matters" in DA2 was "Oh, please, take me with you! Get me out of this city! Carver, come back!" 


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who cares about origins in this game? I hope they will make it stand alone experience as much as possible.

I'm pretty fed up with games in which I need to import saves or set decisions for previous installment for years.

 

Mass effect was epic experience but managing the perfect save for my play-through was sick complicated :X



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I only mean that if you bring back references to the game DAO and DA2 for that matter is that it is Fair and equal, and that no game gets the upperhand 

 

Equal in numbers, importance and significance

 

That is all   



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Guys... it's a timeline. You know, one of those things that helps you find  what year an event happened in?  I don't think having more DA2 entries means anything except that there's more uncertainty about what year a DA2 event happened in because DA2 covers more years.



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Also, the fate of the Architect in Awakenings.

I killed Architect, I wouldn't be surprised to see Architect and Corypheus villains duet.



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who cares about origins in this game? I hope they will make it stand alone experience as much as possible.

I'm pretty fed up with games in which I need to import saves or set decisions for previous installment for years.

 

Mass effect was epic experience but managing the perfect save for my play-through was sick complicated :X

 

You could just not import saves or use the Keep and use the default background the game provides, that's why its there.


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How about Morrigan?  We know she's going to be significant in this game.  The very first trailer was even narrated by her.

 

If there is lots of reference to DA2, so what?  DA2 was sort of written as a set-up for DA3.  They knew (or had a rough idea) what they had planned for this game, so of course they deliberately planted a lot of seeds for events that will take place later.  



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I don't see the point in keeping a running tally as to what's in DAI that references DAO vs DA2. If it's relevant to DAI, it should be in DAI. No need to purposely keep it equal or skew it one way or the other.
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When it comes to past games you have to take it with a pinch of salt do not forget this new game is a direct link to Dragon age 2  following Hawkes crazy involment in things and stuff and I have completely lost the plot here



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Mass effect was epic experience but managing the perfect save for my play-through was sick complicated :X


You don't like managing a perfect save? How about simply not doing that? Play the game, import the save, play the sequel.
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who cares about origins in this game? I hope they will make it stand alone experience as much as possible.

I'm pretty fed up with games in which I need to import saves or set decisions for previous installment for years.

 

I disagree. I have a few different save files waiting to go (carried from DA:O to DA:2 with all DLC) in which I made some very different choices and I can't wait to import those saves and see what impact they have on DAI! I love continuity, and these games have always been a series for me. 

 

Pre-set histories and backgrounds are there for anyone who doesn't want to bother with imports. But, if you've played the other games, why not import your save?

 

I'm hoping that it feels like the choices I've made throughout my different play-through's carry over into DAI! That includes DAO, DAA and any DLC that had an effect on base game play (Leliana & Morrigan's DLC isn't connected to your import unfortunately :( ). Any event that was important enough to impact the story in a big or small way should be included. Yay for diversity! 



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I disagree. I have a few different save files waiting to go (carried from DA:O to DA:2 with all DLC) in which I made some very different choices and I can't wait to import those saves and see what impact they have on DAI! I love continuity, and these games have always been a series for me. 

 

Pre-set histories and backgrounds are there for anyone who doesn't want to bother with imports. But, if you've played the other games, why not import your save?

 

I'm hoping that it feels like the choices I've made throughout my different play-through's carry over into DAI! That includes DAO, DAA and any DLC that had an effect on base game play (Leliana & Morrigan's DLC isn't connected to your import unfortunately :( ). Any event that was important enough to impact the story in a big or small way should be included. Yay for diversity! 

hasn't it been stated that your decision at the end of Witch Hunt (were you decide how Morrigan willpass through the Eluvian) will have an impact? The flag was imported in a save from DA:O to DA2



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hasn't it been stated that your decision at the end of Witch Hunt (were you decide how Morrigan willpass through the Eluvian) will have an impact? The flag was imported in a save from DA:O to DA2

 

I don't remember it being part of your imported save file for DA2, I remember it as a separate campaign unlike DLC which you access through the main game. Is there something I'm missing? It certainly would be nice if that choice carried over (Morrigan's that it), but I don't remember it doing so.



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DA:O was more of a self-contained story, so it didn't leave so much for later games to pick up on.

 

And a lot of what it did leave is optional, and thus can't be referenced in a general timeline



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I don't remember it being part of your imported save file for DA2, I remember it as a separate campaign unlike DLC which you access through the main game. Is there something I'm missing? It certainly would be nice if that choice carried over (Morrigan's that it), but I don't remember it doing so.

 

The save doesn't matter. That's what the Keep is for. Though IIRC a WH save is just as importable as a DAO or DAA save. The Wiki says you should play in the order DAO-DAA-GoA-WH, but I don't know what that's based on.



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Threads like this strengthen and strengthen over again, my opinion and position that Bioware should strive to make games either, as standalone as possible (new cast, new time or place, new story), or direct sequels (like Awakening).



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Threads like this strengthen and strengthen over again, my opinion and position that Bioware should strive to make games either, as standalone as possible (new cast, new time or place, new story), or direct sequels (like Awakening).

We saw how that went with ME2-ME3. As standalone as possible, please. 


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What makes you think Orinins will be lacking in references?  What happened at the end of DA2 is of course very important to the plot of this game but other than that I don't see DA2 getting special attention so far and I don't see any reason why it would. 

 

We have Morrigan, and the consequences of the Dark ritual, We have Liliana and the consequences of the wardens actions with her, Seems likely that the whole Andraste's ashes thing will get a mention, Alistair will be in the game, we even seem to bw getting Dagna.  

 

So a decent amount of references are already confirmed. 



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The save doesn't matter. That's what the Keep is for. Though IIRC a WH save is just as importable as a DAO or DAA save. The Wiki says you should play in the order DAO-DAA-GoA-WH, but I don't know what that's based on.

Timeline order. Awakening take place after well obiasly DA:O, after awakening you get letter from dwarf GoA prologue you hear dwarf speaking, and WH is end because Warden can leave to mirror land and live with Morrigan happily ever after.