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[sgy0003]

On my warrior play through, I invested every points in strength. Sure I died couple of times, but it was manageable.

 

If I want to build a warrior with decent defense, should I put some points in Con?

[Mike3207]

Dex increases your defense, not Con.

[sgy0003]

As I understand it Con is health. More in Con gives you longer to survive attacks. Dex is reflexes, balance, agility. This is why two handed warriors don't need much. I kind of think of it a bit as aim as well. Sheild warriors don't need much but some helps. Rogues need a lot.

 

What do you mean by defense? What kind of warrior are you running? The ability to defend yourself comes from a few places logically speaking. Having stamina to do it which would be willpower. Low stamina on any warrior means they cannot protect or fight for as long. Same for mages only it is mana for magic. Really I would think that defense would be more linked to willpower and con than it would to dexterity unless you are running a rogue.

 

Edited to add: Why are you making this change? Is there something you noticed about how you did a build before that made you want to change it? Did they die too soon? Were they not as good with their weapons or strikes? Or did they not have enough stamina to sustain attacks?

 

Sorry, I must have asked wrong question:

Should I put some on dex, and not just all in strength?

[Lavaeolus]

If you want to tank, Dex is very important. Less so if you just want some additional defense, but still useful. Con sounds useful, and it's not useless, but it's overshadowed by the ability to just outright dodge attacks.

 

So, if you do want more defense, simply: yes.

[Mike3207]

What I like to do with my tanks is to go all strength from the start until I get to 32 at level 5 and can get Assault, then all dex until I get to 26 for all shield talents. After that, it's your choice. More dex to be really hard to hit, more strength to do a lot of damage, or a 60/60 build to be good at both.

[Mike3207]

Warriors though recover stamina when they kill enemies with Death Blow. I can usually get to 30 willpower through equipment which is enough for origins I think. After that, max out Clarity and stack paragon Stout runes in Awakening. You need the extra stamina in Awakening because the new talents use a lot of stamina, some as much as 100.

[DarthGizka]

Cailan's Arms (Maric's Blade plus Cailan's Shield) give a huge stamina regeneration boost, among other things. Perfect for Alistair.

 

Many armour suites - like Wade's armour or Cailan's armour set - reduce fatigue considerably. Some items give huge stamina boosts, like the Warden Commander boots (which most of my mages are wearing unseen under their robes).

[sgy0003]

So If I want to build another two-hand warrior, should I go pure strength again?

[Lavaeolus]

I'd say, try to get -- end-game -- 30 Dex, bump up Willpower a notch if you're running out of needed stamina too often, and put all else in Strength.

 

You should still be able to get 60+ Strength by the end of the game, so may as well give some of the other stats some love.

[Lavaeolus]

Dex isn't just about defense, it also helps you actually land your strong blows, which can be useful. Mind you, I don't think I've ever done a full run-through with a two-hander, so I'm not sure how much of an issue that actually is.

 

Mage tank is best tank.

[Lavaeolus]

 

Where does it say it helps with strong blows? I don't remember that in the description but might have been more focused on the agility but I think it really is more of a rogue thing with shield warriors getting some benefit but it I think it would only minimally benefit a two handed whereas stamina and strength... strength mostly are the best for them.

 

Dexterity increases your "attack" score by 0.5 per point. The higher your attack, the more likely you are to hit your foe. Dex also makes daggers stronger, but obviously that's not something useful for a two-handed warrior.

[DarthGizka]

So If I want to build another two-hand warrior, should I go pure strength again?

Yes.

As a two-hander you trail a sword & board warrior by about 30 defence, which is the effective combined bonus from abilities and a good shield like the one that you can swipe from Vartag. This means that you cannot have comparable defence unless you invest so much into DEX that your damage output will be the lowest possible of all classes (excepting pure spirit healers, of course).

Blood Dragon armour, Lifegiver and the Blood-Gorged amulet can boost your hitpoints if necessary, so the only attribute that seems worth diverting a few points away from strength is willpower. If you can't spam abilities then your damage output won't be better than that of a sword & board warrior with a good longsword. Whether you need to boost willpower depends on how many sustains you will have active and whether you have access to über items like the Nug Crusher (+100 stamina, from RtO).

BTW, what made you want to play a two-hander Warden? With other classes you can't have a reasonably well-trained exemplar in your party unless you play them yourself (tank, dual-wielder, mage, rogue) but the two-handers you get are perfectly capable specimens and a Warden cannot do a whole lot better.

Were you dissatisfied with your pure strength two-hander in some way? I mean, in a way that can be fixed with a better build? As pure DPSers with less than stellar combat value, two-handers aren't the most satisfactory types to play in any case.