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[Elhanan]

Pls do not make us sit through installations from DL if we have the disks in our hot little hands and systems.

 

As I write this, I am having to wait a few hours to allow a game made in 2012 install from a DL site instead from the disks it knows I have. Sure, there may be directions to get around this, but they do not seem to work for me; simply restarted this torturous process all over again. And realizing that I do not have the Tech skills of most school children, I have to waste a Sat morning doing something else instead of learning the game I have in front of me.

 

And another reason I so miss real manuals.....

 

if at all possible, if these technological gizmos can recognize that there is an install disk sitting in my system, pls allow it to install the games from them by default. Please?!

 

I cannot tell you how annoyed and angry I feel currently, and am simply begging that Bioware and Origins not follow this methodology. From this to this today:

 

Thanks for the ear, so to speak; now to wipe my tears of anguish and watch some Let's Play of the game I await....

 

 

[AlanC9]

There's an easy way around this. Don't buy a disk in the first place.

[Elhanan]

Not the answer I seek at all.

 

I prefer having a copy of the game, film, etc; not simply some digital virtual code stored in some virtual vault. I so miss the days when I could simply play a game without a disk; no internet connection required. But realizing that things must change, I accept the notion that I am forced to change with them.  Somewhat.

 

But waiting hours or almost full days for some DL and installation is ridiculous, IMO. This is especially true for me when I have the product purchased, in hand, and an upgraded disk drive whirring away, only to be informed that I only have X amt of time to wait before the installation is completed from the host site. I have the same code already here! Ready to go! Jiminy Crickets; this is annoying!

 

Pls, if disks are sold, pls allow them to be used for installation. This is a factor as to why I pre-order them.

[Spirit Keeper]

There's an easy way around this. Don't buy a disk in the first place.

That's a really dumb answer. There are many reason why someone may wish to buy the disc copy. They may want to add it to a collection or they may have a slow internet connection. Or both.

[Googleness]

you don't have to purchase disk copy. Every online store allows you to create back up of the installation files including origin.

[Spirit Keeper]

Not the answer I seek at all.

 

I prefer having a copy of the game, film, etc; not simply some digital virtual code stored in some virtual vault. I so miss the days when I could simply play a game without a disk; no internet connection required. But realizing that things must change, I accept the notion that I am forced to change with them.  Somewhat.

 

But waiting hours or almost full days for some DL and installation is ridiculous, IMO. This is especially true for me when I have the product purchased, in hand, and an upgraded disk drive whirring away, only to be informed that I only have X amt of time to wait before the installation is completed from the host site. I have the same code already here! Ready to go! Jiminy Crickets; this is annoying!

 

Pls, if disks are sold, pls allow them to be used for installation. This is a factor as to why I pre-order them.

I agree, as someone who likes to have a physical collection and has a very slow internet connection. I buy discs because the game data is supposed to be there on the disc, it's f*cking annoying when you pop the disc in and it starts to download the digital version anyway or worse yet, it installs the physical copy then DELETES it and begins to DL the game. 

 

I have a high end PC and it doesn't take very long to install a game from the disc, but because of my connection it can take almost a day to download one.

[Spirit Keeper]

you don't have to purchase disk copy. Every online store allows you to create back up of the installation files including origin.

Totally missing the point. Having to wait almost a day for a game to install on a slow connection isn't fun. Especially when the same game could be installed extremely quickly from the disc. Not everyone lives in an area with super high, amazing fantastic speed internet.

[AlanC9]

But waiting hours or almost full days for some DL and installation is ridiculous, IMO. This is especially true for me when I have the product purchased, in hand, and an upgraded disk drive whirring away, only to be informed that I only have X amt of time to wait before the installation is completed from the host site. I have the same code already here! Ready to go! Jiminy Crickets; this is annoying!

 

Days? How bad is your connection?

[Spirit Keeper]

Days? How bad is your connection?

While I can't speak for him, my DL speed is about 200Kb/s (that's the average number that pops up when Origin/Steam/Chrome is downloading something).

[AlanC9]

That's an odd speed. Better than dial-up, but not really broadband; even a T1 would do better than that.

 

I didn't know anybody still fell into a category where direct DL would be feasible but annoying. What are you guys using?

[Spirit Keeper]

That's an odd speed. Better than dial-up, but not really broadband; even a T1 would do better than that.

 

I didn't know anybody still fell into a category where direct DL would be feasible but annoying. What are you guys using?

BT broadband, however I live in the UK countryside. Most companies do not consider that to be a worthwhile investment for fiber optic cable.

[Elhanan]

I have a decent connection currently, but this has not always been the case. It took almost 20 hrs for a beta of SWTOR; partially because of an interruption of some kind that required a re-start. And even an hour feels like a waste of time when a disk install could be made in minutes.

 

Todays frustrations illustrate my point: received the game at 10 AM, began first installation and waited an hour before noticing that the DL was going to take even longer. Restarted the process using supposed directions to bypass the DL, and simply had to begin all over again. Now it is 4 PM, and still have a bit to go before completion. Sad; truly sad.

 

I do not mind that some wish to DL; hope their connections are better than mine, and they are satisfied with the results. I want the same feeling knowing that the disks I purchased worked efficiently; not casting the contained coding aside for some trickling stream forcing me to wait and waste time.

[slimgrin]

Disks will eventually go the way of the dinosaur as they aren't the best way to store data nor are they the most reliable. the best way is to go digital and then make backups on a hard dive or flash drive.

[Spirit Keeper]

Disks will eventually go the way of the dinosaur as they aren't the best way to store data nor are they the most reliable. the best way is to go digital and then make backups on a hard dive or flash drive.

'Eventually' not now. DA:I is coming out on a disc release and Bioware, EA etc shouldn't ignore the people who buy the disc copy by forcing them to download the game just because most people have a decent connection.

[AlanC9]

I have a decent connection currently, but this has not always been the case. It took almost 20 hrs for a beta of SWTOR; partially because of an interruption of some kind that required a re-start. And even an hour feels like a waste of time when a disk install could be made in minutes.

 

 

Well, minutes once you actually have the disk, of course.

 

It is kind of stupid that they're wasting their own bandwidth; they're paying for it, after all.

[Squeeze the Fish]

I am also one who likes 'physical copies' of things. While I really like the concept of the convince of digital things (and I definitely prefer my music digital), there's some things like books and games that I just can't get onboard with fully digital for. I don't even have a good reason why (like many of these posters do with slower internet), I just like the look of my game cases and the feeling of a book in my hand.

[Hizoku]

I completely agree with the OP, I personally don't have a problem with everything going digital... but the main reason I walk into the store is to get a "physical" copy of the game and not just the download key.

 

 

 

And another reason I so miss real manuals.....

 

I miss them too. For me, part of the fun of buying a new video game was reading/skimming through the manual on the drive home...

[AlanC9]

For me, part of the fun of buying a new video game was reading/skimming through the manual on the drive home...

 

While driving?

[Remmirath]

Speeds such as that are actually fairly common, at least around where I live -- which isn't out in the country; it's right near a university and the next city over from the state capital. Theoretically we're supposed to get around 4Mb/s, but in reality, it's usually more like 175Kb/s, and I've had as low as 60Kb/s. I know it takes me half a day every time I get an update for most online games, and I can discount the whole day every time I have to install a game through Steam. That's a large part of why I don't like to use digital distribution or watch videos online. It's bloody annoying at that speed. The fastest I've ever seen out of our internet was 2Mb/s, and that was all too brief.

The other is that I prefer to have a physical copy. I've only ever had one unplayable CD over all the years I've been playing games, but I've several times run into problems re-downloading or backing up something purchased digitally. Of course it's not supposed to happen, but it does. I've also seen enough game companies over the years go under or stop supporting earlier games that I am somewhat concerned about them someday doing that with digitally purchased games as well, although I've not yet heard of it happening. If you've got the physical copy, and it doesn't need the internet to install or run, you've got it as long as it lasts. Considering that I still play games I've had for fifteen or twenty years, that's important to me. I've also had fairly poor luck with distribution services -- every one I've had has been flaky and prone to crashing. In fact, as I type this, Steam is simply not running again. It's easier to fix problems with the game itself than problems with the client, and a problem with one game only affects that game, not every game run through the client.

I'm also annoyed by how hard it is to find copies of games (PC games, at least) in stores these days, because at least in my experience buying a game from a nearby store is much faster than ordering it online. That's a different issue, though.

[Hizoku]

While driving?

well, during red lights.. of course i'd often have people honking at me for not moving when it turned green xP

[slimgrin]

Speeds such as that are actually fairly common, at least around where I live -- which isn't out in the country; it's right near a university and the next city over from the state capital. Theoretically we're supposed to get around 4Mb/s, but in reality, it's usually more like 175Kb/s, and I've had as low as 60Kb/s. I know it takes me half a day every time I get an update for most online games, and I can discount the whole day every time I have to install a game through Steam. That's a large part of why I don't like to use digital distribution or watch videos online. It's bloody annoying at that speed. The fastest I've ever seen out of our internet was 2Mb/s, and that was all too brief.

The other is that I prefer to have a physical copy. I've only ever had one unplayable CD over all the years I've been playing games, but I've several times run into problems re-downloading or backing up something purchased digitally. Of course it's not supposed to happen, but it does. I've also seen enough game companies over the years go under or stop supporting earlier games that I am somewhat concerned about them someday doing that with digitally purchased games as well, although I've not yet heard of it happening. If you've got the physical copy, and it doesn't need the internet to install or run, you've got it as long as it lasts. Considering that I still play games I've had for fifteen or twenty years, that's important to me. I've also had fairly poor luck with distribution services -- every one I've had has been flaky and prone to crashing. In fact, as I type this, Steam is simply not running again. It's easier to fix problems with the game itself than problems with the client, and a problem with one game only affects that game, not every game run through the client.

I'm also annoyed by how hard it is to find copies of games (PC games, at least) in stores these days, because at least in my experience buying a game from a nearby store is much faster than ordering it online. That's a different issue, though.

 

 

I've had old disks give out way more than I've had a digital copy fail..in fact, I've never had a digital copy fail. Ever. Because it can't. You folks and your superstition that owning a disk means your info is safe..lol.

[Elhanan]

MY DL from yesterday was glitched; the final few minutes would not reach a conclusion and launch the game. So I had to alter some settings, quit the feed; then re-start. And past DL's have been flawed during service, too.

 

Not to mention that I loathe to leave my system unattended and/ or linked to the same feed for such long periods of time; appears to be more open for hackers.

[Ispan]

MY DL from yesterday was glitched; the final few minutes would not reach a conclusion and launch the game. So I had to alter some settings, quit the feed; then re-start. And past DL's have been flawed during service, too.

 

Not to mention that I loathe to leave my system unattended and/ or linked to the same feed for such long periods of time; appears to be more open for hackers.

 

I feel for you.  I bought ME1 off Origin a few weeks ago and there was an problem with a valid code not being issued so no matter how many times I downloaded the game, it wouldn't work.  Tried contacting customer service for a few days with no luck so I returned it.  I was pretty pissed because I bought it to enjoy on one of my very few actual weekends but spent more than 10 total hours on hold with customer service and never even got to play it.

 

Back in the day I had to purchase multiple copies of Diablo 2 and BG2 because of lost disks, but downloads are by no means flawless.

[Icinix]

+1 for disc install and the option of avoiding having to download a day 1 patch.

[Sylvius the Mad]

A manual I can access from outside the game gives me something to read during installation. I like to plan out my characters before I launch the game the first time, but that requires I have access to detailed mechanical information prior to install.