If only.
Bethany is technically a healer.
There's a difference between having access to healing spells and being the healer.
If only.
Bethany is technically a healer.
There's a difference between having access to healing spells and being the healer.
I haven't read Asunder.
In DA:O I liked her in my first couple of playthroughs, I thought she was a nice old lady. Then she started to grate on me. Now she totally annoys me. In my later playthoughs I either kill her in the tower or leave her at camp and try not to speak with her.
She's not a bad character, though, and I'm impressed with BW for being able to make it work with an old woman as a companion. Most game companies wouldn't even consider such a thing.
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She's fine if she doesn't open her mouth.
Or at least, just talks about herself and doesn't take on the role of "platitude giver and children's storyteller". Her personal story is cool. And I need a healer. Other than that, I regret engaging her in dialogue.
Who knows, perhaps wynne was his mentor at one point. Maybe even lover based on her comments with Alistair ;-)
Ew, now I can't undo that image off my mind.
Yeah, cause the Templars in Kirkwall were the peak of self-restraint and discipline...
Alrik showed remarkable restraint; he was only going to have Ella clean her messy living quarters.
I really like her and her attitude to the Circle (very close to what I think). She's like granny and at the same time she's a very strong and interesting person. I felt very sad when she died but that was inevitable and quite logical.
Her moral compass is more personal and defined than Leliana's, even though Leliana does less "preaching about her beliefs", Leliana is also more prone to accept the stance of the Chantry without question. This is why I don't understand how people write off Wynne as stereotypical and motherly yet praise Leliana for being independent and insightful when it's really the opposite. And this is coming from someone who Wynne would've abandoned should I have brought her on the Sacred Ashes quest.
She was an annoying, self-righteous old bat. Glad she's not coming back.
Alrik showed remarkable restraint; he was only going to have Ella clean her messy living quarters.
Not sure if sarcasm or if someone missed his "Final Solution" letter and his desire to tranquil mages for sex-slave purposes? ![]()
Her moral compass is more personal and defined than Leliana's, even though Leliana does less "preaching about her beliefs", Leliana is also more prone to accept the stance of the Chantry without question. This is why I don't understand how people write off Wynne as stereotypical and motherly yet praise Leliana for being independent and insightful when it's really the opposite. And this is coming from someone who Wynne would've abandoned should I have brought her on the Sacred Ashes quest.
You're absolutely spot on. Wynne knows her own mind and doesn't need to change her beliefs to suit someone else, unlike Leliana who lets the Warden dictate whether she lets her morals slip or not, as well as being convinced via a very hard speech check to agree to their decision to defile the Ashes. As much as I like Leliana, I can't help but notice how she seems to have a need to find people and institutions to control her actions and beliefs (Marjolaine, the Chantry and the Warden) rather than simply think for herself.
Wynne is far more firm in her beliefs and willing to die for them if needs be. Both her actions if you defile the Urn, siding against most of the other Circle to stay with the Chantry and sacrificing herself for Evangeline in Asunder, definitely bear that out. She's a strong woman with strong convictions.
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Wynne is actually one of my favorite characters from Dragon Age Origins. Felt like the motherly figure my wardens all needed. I felt especially close to her in my mage flie.
Motherly works for some of my characters. Perhaps a mage or human noble. City Elf had a mother, and Wynne admits not stepping into an alienage before. She doesn't know the first thing how to approach someone like this, but presumes she does anyways. Pretty much the same goes for Dalish or dwarves. Her worldview has limited applicability, yet she thinks she speaks wisdom that all must adhere to.
Alrik showed remarkable restraint; he was only going to have Ella clean her messy living quarters.
Alrik wanted the mages to have clear wiped clean brains to match his shiny bald head.
I didn't hate or like her in DAO, I did like her in Asunder and she deserved better then what she got, Adrian will pay for what she did. Rys might have been too weak or scared to push her to her doom, but I'll have no issues running her through.
I didn't hate or like her in DAO, I did like her in Asunder and she deserved better then what she got, Adrian will pay for what she did. Rys might have been too push her to her doom, but I'll have no issues running her through.
No. Adrian is mine and mine alone to kill.
And she was a valuable ally in DAO, and loved her in Asunder.
Aside from her lecturing me about **** I already know, I don't mind her in DAO. Asunder she really annoyed me. Aside from when she dies, that was about the only action of hers that I gave approval points to.
No. Adrian is mine and mine alone to kill.
And she was a valuable ally in DAO, and loved her in Asunder.
Sorry pal but I need a test subject for my poisons.
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Ew, now I can't undo that image off my mind.
Zavren's...Zavren's everywhere.
Motherly works for some of my characters. Perhaps a mage or human noble. City Elf had a mother, and Wynne admits not stepping into an alienage before. She doesn't know the first thing how to approach someone like this, but presumes she does anyways. Pretty much the same goes for Dalish or dwarves. Her worldview has limited applicability, yet she thinks she speaks wisdom that all must adhere to.
My city elf saw her more as a grandmother.
I liked Wynne. My warden sure as heck didn't agree with everything she said but she was trying to do good works and for the most part her actions benefited others more then they hurt if we don't count all the people my Warden killed and really they would have died Wynne or no Wynne. Where they sort of didn't match up is my Warden was sort of. "Try to trap me in that cage again and blood is going to flow."
I liked Wynne a lot but I always had trouble raising her approval.
She was alright in Origins, but after Asunder I grew to really like her.
Big reason to kill Adrian tbh
Motherly works for some of my characters. Perhaps a mage or human noble. City Elf had a mother, and Wynne admits not stepping into an alienage before. She doesn't know the first thing how to approach someone like this, but presumes she does anyways. Pretty much the same goes for Dalish or dwarves. Her worldview has limited applicability, yet she thinks she speaks wisdom that all must adhere to.
if the devs had wanted to make her motherly, they should have consulted the real thing. I found her "advice" laughable at best. What most annoyed me, however, was the PC's inability to properly challenge Wynne - especially when it came to Warden matters.
I really disliked her in Origins. I don't think a lot of people notice this, but she was pretty hypocritical in demanding that all mages go back to the Circle except herself and expecting the Warden to have no life outside of stopping the Blight. Unless you were a mage, in which case you had to go back to the Circle to help it. I also got the feeling she couldn't see past the surface: in her "romance talks" she refers to Leliana as a "sweet, innocent girl", which shows how much she actually knows about the Orlesian bard/spy/assassin. She also implies that, if the Warden is dating Morrigan or Zevran, they're just being a hormonal foolish teenager, when in reality the relationship will be affectionate at that point. She gives bad, used-up advice, preaches to everyone, cannot accept being wrong, and tries to be everyone's therapist whether they want it or not.
Her sacrifice in Asunder is admirable, but the fact that she supports the Chantry-mage-enslavement is just. Ugh.
So, no, I don't really like Wynne. I don't hate her--I think she's a great character--but I really dislike her, and I wish the Warden got more chances to call her out without sounding like a petulant child.
Its a shame that Wynne won't be in Inquisition, because I think that she has huge potential storywise judging from what we know so far.
If they make Adrian a leader of the mages in Inquidition I'll have a very hard time deciding wether to support mages, even though I mostly do.
Adrian just needs to die.