Fallout New Vegas vs Fallout 3 huh?
Good image for that:
Obsidian would do a better job with Fallout 4 obviously but I doubt it'll happen. Their hands are full with what they're developing which means we'll be getting another soulless game from Bethesda. With any hope, there might be a New Vegas 2 developed by Obsidian, they have expressed desire to make another. Fallout 4 (like 3) can be the bastard child of the series.
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Wtf are you ppl talking about ?
Bethesda doesn't know jack **** about dark humor. (or any humor/interesting writing for that matter)
Fallout New Vegas vs Fallout 3 huh?
Good image for that:
Obsidian would do a better job with Fallout 4 obviously but I doubt it'll happen. Their hands are full with what they're developing which means we'll be getting another soulless game from Bethesda. With any hope, there might be a New Vegas 2 developed by Obsidian, they have expressed desire to make another. Fallout 4 (like 3) can be the bastard child of the series.
The point of Bethesda games is to create worlds with crappy faces so you can wander and kill stuff? Reminds me of San Anderias and GTA IV. 
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I do like Fallout: New Vegas more on so many things, but one thing Fallout 3 does a lot better is the atmosphere. Just compare the prologue between Vault 101 and starting out by getting amnesia.
Also to address how the Legion fights the NCR; they usually overwhelm them with a horde of fanatical freaks who usually try to club their enemies to death. But that doesn't mean that they can't use guns. The Legion in FO:NV actually has more damaging firearms (Repeaters, anti-material rifles on weaker guys).
1 The use of orher races as PCs playable Ghouls ect.
2 Better Crafting.
3 the ability to repair Robots whoth a high enougth repair / science skill.
4 Playable Children ir a child Follower.
5 CRAFTABLE ARMOR.
6 More Raider armor..seriosly all the female drugged up sociopaths decided to use strainers as a Bikini top?
7 Implement some of the better Mods out ther into the games.
8 Weather seasons ect
9 the Controversial add a vehcal.. whit a reason and a limit.
it could be a bike and used as a limited storage. Vanburen was going to include a Caravan as a home.
10 Different Pipboy the Pippad for instance.
11 Cyborg / Android character.
12Bring back a Skynet type enemy like the Calculator.
13 More Legion.pleeeeeeeez
Fallout 3 had better companions, better character creator skins and better atmosphere than NV.
It's ridiculously hard to make a good looking character in NV without mods. They'll almost always end up looking like deformed meth addicts.
At first I was going to argue but then I looked at the user name. LOL.
The thing I never understood about new vegas, and correct me if im wrong here, but how does an army of guys in football uniforms with spears and machetes(legion) give an army of guys with rifles(ncr) so much trouble?
Because the weapons are all hundreds of years old and jam all the time?
What I would like to see is Obsidian making a much better game of it... but I probably already said that at least twice in this thread before. Oh well, how about we make it 3.
The end to the grey vest and boxers.
At first I was going to argue but then I looked at the user name. LOL.
The thing I never understood about new vegas, and correct me if im wrong here, but how does an army of guys in football uniforms with spears and machetes(legion) give an army of guys with rifles(ncr) so much trouble?
Well low level Legionnaires are certainly what we would consider ill-equipped (I'm often guilty of dismissing them as little more than rock throwing fanatics), but then again low-level NCR troops are toting around little more than Service Rifles. On the other side, high-level Legionnaires will drop 12.7s, Marksman Carbines, Assault Rifles, and AMRs. Same with High-level NCR Rangers.
Having said that, the intended perception is that the Legion is not as well equipped as the NCR...the offset is supposed to be their single-minded fanaticism. I think it works, since I'm usually the recipient of the tender mercies of those high-level Legion assassin squads.
1 The ability to mix clothing. why cant my badass female ware a trouser sute?
and where have all the left boots gone? wvert bandit whith the Pain spike or the Wastlander gear have only 1 boot.
2 Maybe a Sibling?
3 Better character models give us a reson for useing the 3rd person cam.
we look like we are floating.. and maybe a differing targeting.
Anyone here able to melee in 3rd person?
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Oh look, someone who doesn't get the point of Bethesda games.
That they're sandboxes simply made for modders to make the vanilla game better because Bethesda can't write for ****?
New Vegas had the modding alongside the huge sandbox world for modders but the vanilla game (barring the bugs and gameplay) stood on its own. I couldn't stand FO3's world or its story whereas New Vegas immersed me into it.
Well that's subjective, I thought Fallout 3 was uninspiring for the most part, partly for reasons outlined in that image (locations being pointless to explore and being copy and pasted). You mention ideas being ripped from Van Buren as if it's a bad thing, that was going be the original Fallout 3 and then we got New Vegas from it (mainly because New Vegas was being designed by several developers who had worked on Van Buren so I don't see the crime with them using their assets for a game that never released) which is certainly much more true to Fallout lore than 3 was with factions and the like.
It's not like Bethesda even made Fallout 3's setting or anything, they simply brought an established IP with an established setting and made "Oblivion with guns" with a stereotypical linear story from it so you can't really say Obsidian did wrong for the fact that they took from Van Buren. I agree New Vegas is lacking too (I never said it's the best RPG/game ever) but I still think it's the better RPG & Fallout game.
Well that's subjective, I thought Fallout 3 was uninspiring for the most part, partly for reasons outlined in that image (locations being pointless to explore and being copy and pasted). You mention ideas being ripped from Van Buren as if it's a bad thing, that was going be the original Fallout 3 and then we got New Vegas from it (mainly because New Vegas was being designed by several developers who had worked on Van Buren so I don't see the crime with them using their assets for a game that never released) which is certainly much more true to Fallout lore than 3 was with factions and the like.
It's not like Bethesda even made Fallout 3's setting or anything, they simply brought an established IP with an established setting and made "Oblivion with guns" with a stereotypical linear story from it so you can't really say Obsidian did wrong for the fact that they took from Van Buren. I agree New Vegas is lacking too (I never said it's the best RPG/game ever) but I still think it's the better RPG & Fallout game.
I felt like Fallout 3 was a great game, but not as great as New Vegas overall.
I felt like New Vegas had superior characters, plot and quests.
I did like Fallout 3's location better and I liked that it felt more populated than New Vegas.
Fallout 3 pretty much mixed the plot of Fallout and Fallout 2 together into a single game (I.E. You must leave the vault and never come back. The Enclave; even their plan was the exact same in terms of killing everyone that has mutations of any sort with a modified strain of FEV).
Despite my claims, I enjoyed them both. I am grateful to Fallout 3 for introducing me to the series and to Bethesda for allowing Obsidian Entertainment to show us their version of Fallout 3 (New Vegas).
I think it would be a match made in Heaven if Bethesda was responsible for programming and designing the game world and Obsidian was responsible for the writing of Fallout 4.
To tell the truth, I'm pretty much ready for whatever is thrown at me. I really want a Fallout 4, it and Elder Scrolls 6 are my most wanted games.
Guest_TrillClinton_*
Well that's subjective, I thought Fallout 3 was uninspiring for the most part, partly for reasons outlined in that image (locations being pointless to explore and being copy and pasted). You mention ideas being ripped from Van Buren as if it's a bad thing, that was going be the original Fallout 3 and then we got New Vegas from it (mainly because New Vegas was being designed by several developers who had worked on Van Buren so I don't see the crime with them using their assets for a game that never released) which is certainly much more true to Fallout lore than 3 was with factions and the like.
It's not like Bethesda even made Fallout 3's setting or anything, they simply brought an established IP with an established setting and made "Oblivion with guns" with a stereotypical linear story from it so you can't really say Obsidian did wrong for the fact that they took from Van Buren. I agree New Vegas is lacking too (I never said it's the best RPG/game ever) but I still think it's the better RPG & Fallout game.
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