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[KainD]

Simple question - did da world have the word "angel" in its vocabulary?

[Hydromatic]

The only reference to any "angel" i can find is one of Sebastian's talent, "Guardian Angel"

 

 

So not sure.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

It's certainly possible. I mean, the spirits of the deceased go to the Maker's side in a place beyond the Fade. That realm can certainly contain angels in it. 

[AltanIV]

I've never seen it mentioned lore wise. (And I don't consider the talent names as lore wise)

Edit : From what we see in Asunder once deceased the dead folks go in a dark place. As Evangeline said. Or something along those lines. I don't have the exact words used in mind. But so far I've never seen any angel mentioned anywhere. Doesn't mean that there is none, but it feels like if they exist they are unknown to the inhabitants of Thedas

[Sifr]

Falon'Din seems like an angelic figure in elven lore, since he's the psychopomp that guides the elvish dead through the shifting paths of the Beyond. It's interesting that both the Chantry and the Elves believe that people pass through the Fade to reach the afterlife.

[dgcatanisiri]

The Spirits like Justice when we first meet him, or the Spirit of Faith that joined with Wynne, seem to be the closest equivalent to angelic beings in DA lore, particularly given how they're able to be corrupted like Justice did. So since they have that kind of distinction, I don't think the word 'angel' would be used, since that's what the spirits serve as (at least for the humans - elves complicate the matter by calling both spirits, but I figure it's as best as we're gonna get).

 

Though I wouldn't be surprised if someone could dig out a usage of something like the phrase 'guardian angel' or something somewhere in the tapestry of the series, since it's a phrase the writers would use and so it might get slipped in accidentally and no one catches it in time.

[thats1evildude]

I've seen angelic motifs in Orlesian armor, but that's it.

[WardenWade]

There's also an "angel of death" card in the game Wicked Grace.  It isn't much, but people do seem to use the word now and then by the look of it.

[Fenwulf]

I would say it qualifies for being an angel or angelic just as much as [emulating darker human emotions] qualifies a spirit as a demon.

 

I would have to agree with this view.  Demons in DA are just spirits that emulate what would be construed as "negative" aspects of the various peoples they view through their dreams, while the spirits could be called Angels in the same sense, since they seek to emulate what would be construed as "positive" aspects.  But, just like Judeo-Christian "angels,"  that does not make them "nice."  Anders said it best: "Since when is Justice happy?  Justice is righteous.  Justice is hard."  And looking at the old view of angels, this would fit quite well.  They just arn't called angels in DA.

[dragondreamer]

Falon'Din is the one elven god I'm not sure of. If you notice, his statues are spread in all kinds of questionable areas. First with Tamlen, then in various blood mage hideouts, three with the Architect's research room (he seems to be a big fan). He also resembles the winged statues the darkspawn dress up in their camps.

 

I have to wonder if Falon'Din isn't all he appeared to be. It's said that Fen'a'rel tricked both the Creators and the Forgotten, by making each think he was on their side. I have to wonder if Falon'Din is the form he took for the Creators.

 

/sorry for derail

 

I think Falon'Din imagery is just favored by mages because he's associated with the Fade.