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Your village has been the safest place you know for as long as you can remember. Your village was the hometown for one of the grey wardens who saved Ferelden. To honor the Grey Warden, your village has tradition of training all children in the ways of combat when they turn twelve. You have been growing up being hailed as one of the best students, along with your best friend Virgil.

 

Your story starts on the day before graduation day. The headmaster tasks you and Virgil to go retrieve a leaves from the sacred white tree as the final trial before graduation. When the two of you arrive at the tree and are about to pick the leaves, you guys get knocked out from behind. When you wake up, you are imprisoned in a cell, in bandit hideout. You overhear the guards talking about how the main group had gone to raid your village. One of the guards stupidly drops your cell key and you use it to escape from the hideout with Virgil, who also found his way out. 

 

When you return to your village, It's in utter chaos. The village is now a three-way battle ground of the bandits, village warriors, and the darkspawns. The headmaster finds the two of you and says that the villagers needs to be rescued.

 

As your party move through the burning streets, you run into Duncan, a Grey Warden that was sent to investigate the darkspawn activity in your village area. Dunken says that your village is long lost, and the three of you should go with him to become Grey Wardens. Along the way, the Headmaster and Virgil insists you go on ahead, while they stay behind to hold off the enemies. As you run, you turn around to see the two of them fighting tip their deaths.

 

And thus, you arrive at Ostagar with Duncan, meeting King Cailan.


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Interesting idea... I always wished there was a Human commoner over the Dwarf commoner... Felt it'd have been more interesting. But even though in Origins I rarely play a mage, I was upset that there was no apostate mage story. I feel it would have been a very interesting story (it would have to beat the Circle mage story.... snoozefest)



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They had a human commoner planned. Around Redcliffe. They couldn't get the levels right, if I recall. Something about running around in farmfields fighting darkspawn... they couldn't pull it off without it coming off awkwardly. Also, it was kind of a Luke Skywalker-ish story, which I believe they wanted to scrap.

 

Personally, I'd prefer if they went with barbarian. Not commoner. Something that tapped into Ferelden's primal roots. The Avvar lore is particularly cool, but I wouldn't mind Chasind either.


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Gotta agree with Streetmagic on that one, would be so awesome. And beating the tevinter magister as a barbarian would feel so freaking epic.



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That's the thing with the human race, There were tons of options for an origin... You could have been an Ash warrior, Chasind, etc. All of which, I think, would have made great stories. But I can't argue with an Avvar Barbarian either... too much great history for it not to be entertaining.



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I really want a human commoner.

 

There are times where I imagine my mage was found in the wildes by Duncan, was an apostate that he conscripted but she's cool with it because she got bored there and this way she can travel around ferelden and do some real damage.

 

Or I'll pretend my Noble was working for the Couslands as a servant. She was fond of them. They were sweet to her, educated her, treated her well, allowed her to learn to be a rouge... actually the daughter did. Pup. She was great. Her revenge is for them. They WERE her family.



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They had a human commoner planned. Around Redcliffe. They couldn't get the levels right, if I recall. Something about running around in farmfields fighting darkspawn... they couldn't pull it off without it coming off awkwardly. Also, it was kind of a Luke Skywalker-ish story, which I believe they wanted to scrap.

 

Personally, I'd prefer if they went with barbarian. Not commoner. Something that tapped into Ferelden's primal roots. The Avvar lore is particularly cool, but I wouldn't mind Chasind either.

 

Casind mage or warrior... that would have rock. I've done the apostate one. I skip right to Ostagar using code once I finish the fade and pretend that Duncan just saw me take out a slew of darkspawn and then conscripted me on the spot thinking 'that chick is badass... she's the next recruit!'



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That's the thing with the human race, There were tons of options for an origin... You could have been an Ash warrior, Chasind, etc. All of which, I think, would have made great stories. But I can't argue with an Avvar Barbarian either... too much great history for it not to be entertaining.

 

You can still mimic an Ash warrior at least. They're just human beserkers with pet hounds. Other than that, they're an Andrastan order, who take vows that eschew their former lives. Kind of like the Legion of the Dead or Wardens, except Chantry centric.



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I think a chasind warrior and apostate like morrigan would have been VERY interesting. Might have added some interesting conversation too. Especially an apostate and given we start in ostagar fighting darkspawn. Seeing an apostate fight off darkspawn there and then conscript them would be really great I think. Then the conversation with Alistair and morrigan... oh the potential... and Wynne! My god, they really missed the boat on that. Duncan would totally have conscripted an apostate mage who was taking out darkspawn.


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I think a chasind warrior and apostate like morrigan would have been VERY interesting. Might have added some interesting conversation too. Especially an apostate and given we start in ostagar fighting darkspawn. Seeing an apostate fight off darkspawn there and then conscript them would be really great I think. Then the conversation with Alistair and morrigan... oh the potential... and Wynne! My god, they really missed the boat on that. Duncan would totally have conscripted an apostate mage who was taking out darkspawn.

 

Yes. I think the Human Noble pairing is a bit odd. She works better with one of the elves, imo. But the Human noble.. all I keep seeing is Eleanor and Bryce and imagining this person's upbringing and life. None of it blends well with Morrigan (imo). It's all very "twee", as someone around here once put it.

 

It doesn't help that Flemeth's own history goes back to Conobar -- the guy the Couslands took Highever over from. It seems like overdoing it if the Witches of the Wilds get their hooks in the Couslands as well.

 

edit: I'm talking about a relationship with her btw. Not sex. There are so many barriers to break through to her. It shouldn't just happen "just because". The two need a lot of common ground to become genuine friends. Elves, and barbarians/commoners would've had a better chance.



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Yes. I think the Human Noble pairing is a bit odd. She works better with one of the elves, imo. But the Human noble.. all I keep seeing is Eleanor and Bryce and imagining this person's upbringing and life. None of it blends well with Morrigan (imo). It's all very "twee", as someone around here once put it.

 

It doesn't help that Flemeth's own history goes back to Conobar -- the guy the Couslands took Highever over from. It seems like overdoing it if the Witches of the Wilds get their hooks in the Couslands as well.

 

edit: I'm talking about a relationship with her btw. Not sex. There are so many barriers to break through to her. It shouldn't just happen "just because". The two need a lot of common ground to become genuine friends. Elves, and barbarians/commoners would've had a better chance.

 

I've never done a morrigan romance but I see what you mean. My nobles could barely relate to her. My mages could only to a degree in that most of them hated the circle. So that they could relate on but as you progress there is little else because morrigan almost seems to dislike humans in general.... maybe a little too much time as a spider I think.

 

But for a romance, I cannot even imagine playing a male noble who is interested in her other than perhaps curiosity... the wild witch sort of thing. More sexual than love give she has such an aversion to it... my PCs tend to be mentally stable enough to find her behavior unappealing. They have patience with Alistair (most of them) because his upbringing was harsh but even then some of them find him whiny. But morrigan just doesn't really like anybody at all. There is nobody in the camp that she has pleasant exchanges with. She doesn't like any kind of touching like handshakes and she thinks flemeth did good by her raising her to be detached from people with no desire for love thinking it's a weakness. Nice....

 

Now Alistair with an apostate, learning perhaps that the apostate isn't some kind of magic junkie and perhaps was an apostate so she could be with her family rather than taken away from them.... that would be a very interesting relationship. That her parents would not give her up so they fled to the wildes. I think that would have been fascinating. Would have been interesting to have alistair ask the questions and you answer them rather than the other way around. Create your character that way...


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It's funny.. I'm probably close to Morrigan in many of those traits.. but even I find it hard to like her, just because of her putting power above everything. This makes her lack depth in my opinion. Very petty. I understand her aversion to social customs and mostly being an introverted person though. I get sick of how people want to hug or shake hands after leaving somewhere, for example.

 

Anyways, I think a Dalish hunter might have a better chance. Not that Hunters are misanthropes, but generally speaking, they are solitary and absorbed in their enviroment, in a way they might admire about Morrigan. Being outcasts (as elves) pushes the pairing further.



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It's funny.. I'm probably close to Morrigan in many of those traits.. but even I find it hard to like her, just because of her putting power above everything. This makes her lack depth in my opinion. Very petty. I understand her aversion to social customs and mostly being an introverted person though. I get sick of how people want to hug or shake hands after leaving somewhere, for example.

 

Anyways, I think a Dalish hunter might have a better chance. Not that Hunters are misanthropes, but generally speaking, they are solitary and absorbed in their enviroment, in a way they might admire about Morrigan. Being outcasts (as elves) pushes the pairing further.

 

The Dalish hunter would make sense I guess. If I were to analyze a person like morrigan, my first thought would be that she needs power because she lacked love or attention in any healthy or meaningful way. It's not all that different from how you see so many people wanting their 15 minutes of fame (or more). They are attention starved - probably lack of love or not having the kind of loving or positive environment. I've seen this sort of thing. In my youth I lived it. With morrigan, I would say that the power is her thing rather than fame. It gives her the upper hand and control she wants because she had none as a child. She is anti love so she would be anti fame especially given she's an apostate. She doesn't want to be a hero. She just wants power and she likes the idea that she can manipulate people. As much as she says she doesn't like touching, to a degree this I suspect would have more to do with her growing up detached. She's not comfortable around people. Remember how she tells you that flemeth could have never prepared her for many things... like eating with what was it? People? That says a lot about her upbrining. So detached she never was taught how to eat around people. Well of course she wants power. She's an outcast who feels out of place and would be hunted for having the power of magic. If she were living in our world with our rules, she'd have been the first to sign up for some sort of reality show.


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I've romanced he with my human rouge once. I agree with the idea that these two characters don't mesh much, but I pictured my rouge as a rebellious son. He's the anti-Fergus if you will lol. So he sees this apostate bad*ss chick and jumps all over it (figuratively..... and literally I suppose)


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I tried romancing Morrigan with my dalish elf and he looked like a little boy asking for sweets. I do like the idea tho' of a Robin Hood type of character in Highever after Howe does the dirty. I'm not too sure of my Cousland doing robberies in Denerim after Slim Coudry introduces himself. If you want to swing Ferelden nobles to your cause robbing them may be more of a hindrance (it's not but never mind). The more I think about it the more I like it. A kind of Robin Hood/Isabella character who doesn't really want to be roped into the whole storyline but does anyway.


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Even Robin Hood had his Maid Marian though. That's a light and fun story. Loveable rogue, defending the poor. Morrigan can't even bothered helping people with small things without a snide comment. Even Flemeth has a better chance of hooking up with a rogue like that than Morrigan. At least she's funny and has some social skills.



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Even Robin Hood had his Maid Marian though. That's a light and fun story. Loveable rogue, defending the poor. Morrigan can't even bothered helping people with small things without a snide comment. Even Flemeth has a better chance of hooking up with a rogue like that than Morrigan. At least she's funny and has some social skills.

 

Maid Marian was by no stretch of the imagination a Morrigan equivalent. She's such a nasty piece of work. It makes me a little sad that my beloved Clauda Black voices such a shrew. :(

 

However, Captain Janeway for Flemeth kind of makes up for it... not quite, but a little.



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Maid Marian was by no stretch of the imagination a Morrigan equivalent. She's such a nasty piece of work. It makes me a little sad that my beloved Clauda Black voices such a shrew. :(

 

However, Captain Janeway for Flemeth kind of makes up for it... not quite, but a little.

 

Oh, I know. If anything, I think Leliana, Oghren, and Zevran fit the whole Robin Hood aesthetic. That's your jolly band of adventurers. Morrigan fits in more with Euro pagan archetypes.. And Arthurian stories specifically. Morgan le Fay. Power hungry witches and secret sex rituals in the dark of night. None of that blends well with "Robin Hood". Robin Hood is too clever for that.