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[DDK]

Synthesis is the one true ending. It is the ending that was meant to be by all the lore from the very beginning of the series to the end. I believe this in my heart and soul.

 

I'm not looking for disagreement. There has been enough of that already. I want to hear from people who AGREE with me. I believe there are more of us than the vocal minority would have everyone believe and that they merely shy away from argument because the arguers are so vehement.

 

So let us all praise synthesis. Let there be (green) light!

[Mordokai]

My thoughts on the subject not being important, there's already a thread like that.

 

http://forum.bioware...ial-integrated/

[DDK]

My thoughts on the subject not being important, there's already a thread like that.

 

http://forum.bioware...ial-integrated/

 

Sigh, there's always someone like you who'll poop on any parade. This thread isn't the same as the one you linked. Please just let it go.

[Coming0fShadows]

I admit, I always have been a fan of the Borg. So when the ending of ME3 came along, and i saw that chance at instantaneous galactic assimilation, I saw my chance. Really did enjoy adding all that biological and technological distinctiveness into one, big, happy fleet.

[Anacronian Stryx]

If you use words like "believe"and "heart and soul" in your argumentation you have already lost.

[Staff Cdr Alenko]

If you use words like "believe"and "heart and soul" in your argumentation you have already lost.

 

Please don't feed the troll.

[von uber]

Have to say, my favourite bit about synthesis is when the husk stands up and goes "what the hell... ?"

[Farangbaa]

When I don't pick control, I synthesize.

[Darks1d3]

That's adorable OP.

 

While I do know a few people who have chosen Synthesis as their canon ending, I don't think they chose it for the same reasons as you. Well, with the exception of Seival. Speaking of which, here's a thread you may enjoy reading.

 

I know it puts a smile on my face every time I read it

[DDK]

I admit, I always have been a fan of the Borg. So when the ending of ME3 came along, and i saw that chance at instantaneous galactic assimilation, I saw my chance. Really did enjoy adding all that biological and technological distinctiveness into one, big, happy fleet.

 

 

If you use words like "believe"and "heart and soul" in your argumentation you have already lost.

 

 

Please don't feed the troll.

 

 

Have to say, my favourite bit about synthesis is when the husk stands up and goes "what the hell... ?"

 

 

When I don't pick control, I synthesize.

 

 

That's adorable OP.

 

While I do know a few people who have chosen Synthesis as their canon ending, I don't think they chose it for the same reasons as you. Well, with the exception of Seival. Speaking of which, here's a thread you may enjoy reading.

 

I know it puts a smile on my face every time I read it

 

I've got a great idea. Why, instead of being a-holes and crapping up a thread for your own amusement in belittling others, don't you just... not post in it?

 

Or would that be too difficult?

[Farangbaa]

Yes, way too difficult.

[AlanC9]

It's something they do. If you're going to hang out on this board you'll just have to get used to it.

[Mcfly616]

Most of the people I meet or know who play Mass Effect chose Synthesis. And liked it. Some of them liked it a lot. Never heard a complaint about Synthesis (in-person). All the complaints I've ever heard are pretty much here on these boards. A constant wave of hate.


It's not my preferred ending. I don't hate it though.

[KaiserShep]

Can't stand up if your corporeal form has been dispersed throughout the galaxy.

[SpiritMuse]

I liked the synthesis ending. I think it would be pretty cool to be part technology. Plus, glowy green eyes.

[Sir DeLoria]

So you post a thread in a public forum claiming that one of the endings is undeniably right and then complain about the presence of others who don't agree, posting in your thread.

Please, in the future either make a group for this, don't post or don't complain about something this silly.

[Obadiah]

I kinda hope something like this happens later on post-Synthesis:

[DDK]

So you post a thread in a public forum claiming that one of the endings is undeniably right and then complain about the presence of others who don't agree, posting in your thread.

 

I'm not looking for disagreement. There has been enough of that already. I want to hear from people who AGREE with me.

 

So you post in a thread on a public forum criticising someone for having a different opinion than you even though it was requested in the OP that only like-minded opinions are being sought?

 

I have some advice for you:

 

Please, in the future either make a group for this, don't post or don't complain about something this silly.

[Staff Cdr Alenko]

I don't think it's able to stand up.

[SwobyJ]

I'll never pick Synthesis on my main, even though a few possible aspects of it highly interest me, and I've got a trans/posthuman streak in me. I'm Breath Destroy all the way, and Control just strikes me as kinda cool to witness.

 

I'm saving Synthesis for 1-2 of my alts.

One of them a female Paragon Adept. Her courage and dauntless hope will inspire us all.

Another one a male Renegade/Renegon Sentinel/Engineer (haven't really decided). He will have lost so many that he won't give a damn anymore by the end, and will want to do one last good thing before he dies.

Or something like that.

I WILL at least pick it for them, though not my main. I'm crazy enough into the series that I'll have 6+ Shepards at some point

 

It helps for me to imagine Synthesis as:

-unreal, virtual, inside a Reaper as Shepard is absorbed into its code (all the endings as this, but still)

-empowers the Reaper to become the best and nicest damn Reaper ever by far

-which will still be used to blast away other Reapers and still end up saving Earth

-but also have a longer term prerogative to help coexistence between organics and synthetics as much as possible

*cue Mass Effect title sound for next game*

[Sir DeLoria]

So you post in a thread on a public forum criticising someone for having a different opinion than you even though it was requested in the OP that only like-minded opinions are being sought?
 
I have some advice for you:

That little quote game you played makes no sense, but that's because I think you don't understand how public forums work.

Basically: You can't just forbid people with different opinions from posting in a thread on a public forum. If you're that sensitive to criticism and only want to talk to people with your opinion, create or join a group. It's that easy.

[ImaginaryMatter]

I kinda hope something like this happens later on post-Synthesis:

 

I sure hope not...

 

...that movie was terrible.

[FlyingSquirrel]

I'm slightly inclined towards a heavily headcanoned Synthesis as my canon Shepard's ending over a heavily headcanoned Control. Basically it comes down to a choice of what I have to rationalize to be able to live with it (or die with it, in Shepard's case). For Synthesis, I have to assume that:

 

(1) The Catalyst's comment that "it cannot be forced" means that when the green energy pulse gives everyone the upgrades, they are switched off and can be removed or just left inactive by anyone who doesn't want them.

(2) People have enhanced abilities to accumulate and retain knowledge, but their attitudes and personalities are not suddenly changed overnight - it's more a case of conflict being reduced because people are better able to understand differing perspectives and foresee consequences.

(3) It doesn't end up leading to immortality or fundamentally changing the very nature of existence like EDI thinks it might.

 

For Control, I have to assume that:

 

(1) AI-Shepard negotiates a relatively restrained role for the Reapers in the post-war galaxy - they are more of a reconstruction / peacekeeping / disaster relief agency than a new galactic government.

(2) The Reapers either have no real consciousness of their own, or they do but were under a form of indoctrination or enthrallment and are agreeable to AI-Shepard's new plan for them (i.e. they aren't slaves).

(3) AI-Shepard doesn't overreach in using its newfound powers.

 

The Synthesis epilogue is maybe a little more compatible with these ideas - even EDI's narration can be seen as simply her individual speculation, and it's easier to think that EDI might be mistaken about what happens next under Synthesis than that AI-Shepard would be mistaken about what happens next under Control, and AI-Shepard's narration in the Extended Cut does give me the creeps in places. It clearly means well, and I don't think it's going to re-initiate the cycles, but that's still an awful lot of power to give to a single entity. Power seems more equally distributed under Synthesis, in that there's no one person or AI making so many crucial decisions for everyone (I'm assuming that the Catalyst releases the Reapers from its control under Synthesis).

 

I still don't really like any of the endings, though.

[SwobyJ]

I don't think any of the narrations are 'mistaken'.

 

Even the Synthesis transcend mortality itself, may be over a period of 1000s or 10,000s of years.

 

The idea of 'inevitable' just is that something of that nature is bound to happen at some point. It's just that as Shepard, we can decide whether to aim for it starting now, instead of temper but still pursue it with Control, or sticking to the longer path with Destroy.

 

Even realistically here, humans as we understand them will not exist forever. We'll either all be killed off, or work to keep ourselves in our current forms, or naturally (as in organically) evolve into what we might consider other species, or incorporate enough tech into ourselves that we may be considered something else (cyborg), or merge ourselves so much with technology that we are one with it, or something else entirely.

Your own opinions on how that might either eliminate or improve 'humanity' and the concept of mortality may vary (is mortality dying of aging? dying ever? no longer having a presence in the universe?).

 

I believe SynthesisEDI talks of mortality in the broadest terms - that with organics (particularly humanity) and synthetics (particularly the Reapers) working together, they may one day transcend the limitations of the universe and ensure that everyone is able to have a presence in the universe forever, or even beyond it. It's about breaking boundaries and making dreams come true. Or nightmares.

 

The biggest worry about Synthesis, as it is shown to us and not through more vague hypotheticals or theories, is that advancement of this nature and this fast, isn't what we ought to be going for. That there's nothing wrong with staying mortal (like I was saying, YMMV) and valuing your individualized limited existence and maybe the cooperative existence with others. That is it through temporary life, that we make sure we are people who at least try harder to make correct decisions, not just the most logical or inevitable. Synthesis might one day take that away from us, and we become an utterly alien form of life that does not cherish what we currently consider good and even sacred.

And instead of actually taking lessons from the past and even dwelling on them (which can sometimes be a good thing), we just keep them in our memories and focus entirely on moving more and more forward. This may end up utterly removing the 'humanity' from us, for all we know, and EDI's speech at least gives me a feeling of that. She is alive, we are alive, and we are not alone - but what will we become?

[DoomsdayDevice]