i was so mad he wasn't in DA2.
Sten in DAI
#26
Posté 27 avril 2014 - 09:16
- Chari et Warden Nick aiment ceci
#27
Posté 27 avril 2014 - 09:50
I don't think Sten is going to make a cameo in Inquisition. There's probably not a reason for one of the leaders of the Qunari people to be away from Par Vollen unless there's another demand of the Qun he needs to see to personally. Plus there's the possibility of DA2's Arishok being alive or Sten being dead. He's probably not going to appear in Inquisition but if there's a game that takes place in Qunari lands and he's alive, he'll be important.
With Sten becoming Stenishok in the comics, i dont think he truly dies in the game. Kind of like the Leliana deal
#28
Posté 27 avril 2014 - 10:02
With Sten becoming Stenishok in the comics, i dont think he truly dies in the game. Kind of like the Leliana deal
Can Sten die "on camera"? It's not given that he died during the attack on Lothering. He may have escaped and continued his mission.
- Warden Nick aime ceci
#29
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Posté 27 avril 2014 - 10:03
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Man you gotta love the negative nancy's raining on the cameo parade; "No companion cameos evar!1! it totes ruinz teh story!!1!" I guess some people would rather there be nothing for all instead of an option for everyone.
- Jedi Master of Orion, Chari et Warden Nick aiment ceci
#30
Posté 27 avril 2014 - 10:10
Can Sten die "on camera"? It's not given that he died during the attack on Lothering. He may have escaped and continued his mission.
Exactly, he challenges you if your approval isnt up for him but he submits when you win. I got the impression that after a bit more time in the cage he figured if he was let out that he could retrieve his sword on his own.
#31
Posté 27 avril 2014 - 10:25
Man you gotta love the negative nancy's raining on the cameo parade; "No companion cameos evar!1! it totes ruinz teh story!!1!" I guess some people would rather there be nothing for all instead of an option for everyone.
There is a difference between not wanting him in the game because he will ruin "teh story," and not thinking that a situation could arise, that makes sense and is relevant, that would have the head of the entire Qunari military involved in the Fereldan/Orlais area. Especially considering we already had an Arishok in the previous game.
Also a cameo wouldn't happen, as they have said that they won't have pointless cameos, if a returning character is in the game then they are going to be somewhat relevant to the story.
Sten is my favourite character in the entire series, I would actually pay more for the game if I found out he made an appearance, no matter how insignificant, but they are not going to cameo a character that isn't relevant and doesn't make sense in the context of events. I am not ruling him out of being in the game entirely, just saying it is extremely unlikely.
#32
Posté 28 avril 2014 - 02:54
He might make a cameo appearance. I think a Sten-Iron Bull face-off will be cool with certain decisions (say, the Inquisitor takes up the Qun or something like that) possibly leading to Iron Bull leaving the team.
The inquisitor isn't going to take up the qun. The whole reason they made the PC valshoth is because it would be nearly impossible to play as a follows of the qun.
- Grieving Natashina aime ceci
#33
Posté 28 avril 2014 - 04:53
We will be able to meet Alistair who could be dead, a king or a grey warden despite not visiting Denerim or even western Fereldan. So why not? A small cameo is not that much of a troubleWe will meet Alistair which can be dead, a grey warden or a king. What for though? We won't see Denerim in the game
So I'm pretty sure they can afford cameos, especially since Sten can't die in DAO and Arishok fails at his mission anyway
There is a difference between not wanting him in the game because he will ruin "teh story," and not thinking that a situation could arise, that makes sense and is relevant, that would have the head of the entire Qunari military involved in the Fereldan/Orlais area. Especially considering we already had an Arishok in the previous game.
Also a cameo wouldn't happen, as they have said that they won't have pointless cameos, if a returning character is in the game then they are going to be somewhat relevant to the story.
Sten is my favourite character in the entire series, I would actually pay more for the game if I found out he made an appearance, no matter how insignificant, but they are not going to cameo a character that isn't relevant and doesn't make sense in the context of events. I am not ruling him out of being in the game entirely, just saying it is extremely unlikely.
Besides Sten can not be killed in DAO and Arishok fails at his mission either way, so he probably gets executed
#34
Posté 28 avril 2014 - 06:57
The inquisitor isn't going to take up the qun. The whole reason they made the PC valshoth is because it would be nearly impossible to play as a follows of the qun.
What I meant was that the Inquisitor could do something that could p*** Iron Bull off and Sten may be involved.
#35
Posté 28 avril 2014 - 11:04
He has it be in DA:I, right? He's the Arishok now and the Qun has to play a part in the game.We have to see the Arishok.
I already can see Sten and Qunari Inquisitor become rivals in the game. Leader of the Qun vs Tel Vashoth leader.
#36
Posté 28 avril 2014 - 11:41
We will be able to meet Alistair who could be dead, a king or a grey warden despite not visiting Denerim or even western Fereldan. So why not? A small cameo is not that much of a trouble
Besides Sten can not be killed in DAO and Arishok fails at his mission either way, so he probably gets executed
Yes but they have said he will play a role that is relevant to the story, it's not so much a cameo as it is a recurring character of the series having an impact on the plot, also Alistair being a king or warden makes him very relevant as the game is set partially in Fereldan(possibly his kingdom), and the grey wardens seem to play a large role in the game, I am not sure how drunkard Alistair plays a role but it will be relevant if he is in it.
If Sten is in DA:I, then it means he has to make sense and be relevant to the plot.
From David Gaider's Blog
"The only time I've brought a character forward for any reason other than that they fit into the story was Oghren in Awakening—and that didn't really work as well as I’d have liked. I doubt I’ll do it again."
As I said I would love him to be in the game, no matter how insignificant his role, but it won't happen unless it makes sense.
#37
Posté 28 avril 2014 - 12:27
We have a worldwide disaster, I am pretty sure qunari have noticed it tooYes but they have said he will play a role that is relevant to the story, it's not so much a cameo as it is a recurring character of the series having an impact on the plot, also Alistair being a king or warden makes him very relevant as the game is set partially in Fereldan(possibly his kingdom), and the grey wardens seem to play a large role in the game, I am not sure how drunkard Alistair plays a role but it will be relevant if he is in it.
If Sten is in DA:I, then it means he has to make sense and be relevant to the plot.
From David Gaider's Blog
"The only time I've brought a character forward for any reason other than that they fit into the story was Oghren in Awakening—and that didn't really work as well as I’d have liked. I doubt I’ll do it again."
As I said I would love him to be in the game, no matter how insignificant his role, but it won't happen unless it makes sense.
Plus we have a talvashoth whose "past" will find him... Probably qunari past
I'm not saying Sten will be in the game, but I don't see many reason for him not to be in it
- Shaen Mac Tir aime ceci
#38
Posté 28 avril 2014 - 01:31
Why do I have the feeling that Bioware may want to save Sten (ok, Arishok) for a game set in Tevinter or Rivain? His presence there would make a lot of sense and he could be a very interesting NPC... perhaps even a boss fight.
- mlgumm aime ceci
#39
Posté 28 avril 2014 - 02:00
Why do I have the feeling that Bioware may want to save Sten (ok, Arishok) for a game set in Tevinter or Rivain? His presence there would make a lot of sense and he could be a very interesting NPC... perhaps even a boss fight.
No boss fight
I don't wanna kill him
#40
Posté 28 avril 2014 - 02:08
i agree, we wont see him again till we deal with the game involving the qunari invasion as its focus
#41
Posté 28 avril 2014 - 02:11
We have a worldwide disaster, I am pretty sure qunari have noticed it too
Plus we have a talvashoth whose "past" will find him... Probably qunari past
I'm not saying Sten will be in the game, but I don't see many reason for him not to be in it
I would just find it very strange to have the Arishok so far away from Par Vollen for a second time. The Blight was a major worldwide disaster waiting to happen and the Arishok only sent a handful of his men from the Beresaad to investigate. In the second game he was involved because he was personally bound by duty to retrieve the Qun. I do believe the Qunari will be involved, I just don't think it will be involving Sten.
Maybe he will be involved as the Iron Bull left the Qun ten years ago, which is when Sten was in Fereldan, so maybe Sten is personally involved and bound by duty to do something, I am just saying it is unlikely not that it is impossible.
#42
Posté 28 avril 2014 - 02:15
I would just find it very strange to have the Arishok so far away from Par Vollen for a second time. The Blight was a major worldwide disaster waiting to happen and the Arishok only sent a handful of his men from the Beresaad to investigate. In the second game he was involved because he was personally bound by duty to retrieve the Qun. I do believe the Qunari will be involved, I just don't think it will be involving Sten.
Maybe he will be involved as the Iron Bull left the Qun ten years ago, which is when Sten was in Fereldan, so maybe Sten is personally involved and bound by duty to do something, I am just saying it is unlikely not that it is impossible.
From what I understood, it's been such a long time since the last Blight that qunari have forgotten how dangerous it was, and wanted to refresh their data.
The Rift in the Fade, though, happens to affect the whole Thedas at the moment and if isn't stopped immidietally, then nothing can stop it. Though I guess they would likely assume it was Tevinter's fault and probably just renew the war
That's also possible, tho a bit too personal for a qunari
#43
Posté 28 avril 2014 - 02:26
No boss fight
I don't wanna kill him
With some luck, we won't have to. After all, it's not as if previous games forced us to kill Loghain or the former Arishok. As long as he's not the last or the second-to-last boss, there's hope.
Maybe he will be involved as the Iron Bull left the Qun ten years ago, which is when Sten was in Fereldan, so maybe Sten is personally involved and bound by duty to do something, I am just saying it is unlikely not that it is impossible.
Mm, something related to Iron Bull may be possible. What if he was Sten's comrade before? If there's some kind of "loyalty mission" for Iron Bull, that would be the best chance to have a Sten cameo.
From what I understood, it's been such a long time since the last Blight that qunari have forgotten how dangerous it was, and wanted to refresh their data.
They can't forget what they have never experienced. The Qunari landed in Thedas centuries after the last Blight (before the Fifht, of course). It was wise of them to send an expedition to Ferelden to know what a Blight is... although sending normal spies would have worked better.
#44
Posté 28 avril 2014 - 02:34
They can't forget what they have never experienced. The Qunari landed in Thedas centuries after the last Blight (before the Fifht, of course). It was wise of them to send an expedition to Ferelden to know what a Blight is... although sending normal spies would have worked better.
Ah, this explains it. They didn't even know and wanted to know. Well, it only proves my words that in the current situation a couple of scouts wouldn't be enough
#45
Posté 28 avril 2014 - 02:56
From what I understood, it's been such a long time since the last Blight that qunari have forgotten how dangerous it was, and wanted to refresh their data.
The Rift in the Fade, though, happens to affect the whole Thedas at the moment and if isn't stopped immidietally, then nothing can stop it. Though I guess they would likely assume it was Tevinter's fault and probably just renew the war
That's also possible, tho a bit too personal for a qunari
I'm not actually disagreeing with you, I do think the Qunari will have a presence like a sizeable contingent of the Beresaaad being present, but from your own point, the tears would be all over Par Vollen and Seheron as well as other parts of Thedas, so the head of the military would be better off in his homeland overseeing the defense of his people, not in the middle of Feraldan/Orlais.
I agree it does seem a bit to personal, just trying to think of some relevant reason he would be involved.
- Chari aime ceci
#47
Posté 28 avril 2014 - 05:09
I'm not actually disagreeing with you, I do think the Qunari will have a presence like a sizeable contingent of the Beresaaad being present, but from your own point, the tears would be all over Par Vollen and Seheron as well as other parts of Thedas, so the head of the military would be better off in his homeland overseeing the defense of his people, not in the middle of Feraldan/Orlais.
I agree it does seem a bit to personal, just trying to think of some relevant reason he would be involved.
True. I guess it's more likely we'll heart about new confrontations between Qunari and Tevinter due to the Veil Rift. Qunari blame magisters, magisters themselves have no idea how to handle it and have to deal with even more pressure from all sides
...
But I still hope we'll get a chance to meet Sten, since we'll go to diffirent places and countries and stuff...
#48
Posté 28 avril 2014 - 06:00
I hope so, Sten was one of my favourite characters period in the DA universe.
Plus, I'd like to see what influence he has as Arishok and se how his time with the Warden shaped him.
- Warden Nick et Shaen Mac Tir aiment ceci
#49
Posté 29 avril 2014 - 02:18
#50
Posté 29 avril 2014 - 02:20
Man you gotta love the negative nancy's raining on the cameo parade; "No companion cameos evar!1! it totes ruinz teh story!!1!" I guess some people would rather there be nothing for all instead of an option for everyone.
Or people don't like Cameos for the sake of cameos, Sten as the Arishok has no reason to be in DA:I at the moment





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