I think it would be cool to see him again as the Arishok for whatever reason if he survived, but I also want him to stay dead if the Warden didn't bring him along.
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#77
Posté 07 mai 2014 - 09:29
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I think it would be cool to see him again as the Arishok for whatever reason if he survived, but I also want him to stay dead if the Warden didn't bring him along.
Since his dead was not confirmed even if the Warden abandoned him ("He remained in his cage to await death, and most likely found it"), he's likely alive in every playthrough.
#78
Posté 07 mai 2014 - 09:43
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If he start to cause trouble i will pit the Iron Bull against him, who is twice as big and way more ripped than Sten.... So it is better for him to take his nice personality when coming to Orlais.
#79
Posté 07 mai 2014 - 09:45
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There's more wiggle room to explain away his death than most other killable characters but he's still presumably dead. Sten not only surviving and succeeding in his adventure (to the point where he is eventually promoted to Arishok) all by himself is overwhelmingly implausible, considering he didn't even want to escape when the Warden found him and doesn't know where he lost his sword.
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Posté 08 mai 2014 - 03:25
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It is still possible. They retconned characters before. And in Sten's case there is even nothing to retconThere's more wiggle room to explain away his death than most other killable characters but he's still presumably dead. Sten not only surviving and succeeding in his adventure (to the point where he is eventually promoted to Arishok) all by himself is overwhelmingly implausible, considering he didn't even want to escape when the Warden found him and doesn't know where he lost his sword.
#81
Posté 08 mai 2014 - 03:31
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It will be very interesting to possibly see Sten as the next Arishok. Or, rather, Aristen.
#82
Posté 08 mai 2014 - 03:59
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It's possible, yes. That doesn't mean it necessarily would or should be the case. Ideally, any characters who were killed should stay dead.
#83
Posté 08 mai 2014 - 04:34
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For some reason I get the feeling that if you let the Arishok live in DA2 (and thus retains his title as Arishok), Sten dies.
#84
Posté 08 mai 2014 - 04:38
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Stem wasn't killedIt's possible, yes. That doesn't mean it necessarily would or should be the case. Ideally, any characters who were killed should stay dead.
#85
Posté 08 mai 2014 - 04:39
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Arishok loses the Book either way. Either way he's failedFor some reason I get the feeling that if you let the Arishok live in DA2 (and thus retains his title as Arishok), Sten dies.
#86
Posté 08 mai 2014 - 04:43
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Stem wasn't killed
He was left behind in a cage in a village about to be overrun by darkspawn with no desire to escape and no way home even if he did. That's close enough. He should not return in such a case.
#87
Posté 08 mai 2014 - 04:49
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Anders was seen killed in one ending and was given to Templars in anotherHe was left behind in a cage in a village about to be overrun by darkspawn with no desire to escape and no way home even if he did. That's close enough. He should not return in such a case.
Lelianna could be personally killed by us
Some character "probably" dying off-screen is even less unbelievable
#88
Posté 08 mai 2014 - 04:50
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Yeah and again, I'm not saying he can't come back. I'm saying he shouldn't.
#89
Posté 08 mai 2014 - 05:36
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I'm saying there is no reason or restrictions which stop bioware from his comeback. He should at least be mentioned if we will deal with qunariYeah and again, I'm not saying he can't come back. I'm saying he shouldn't.
#90
Posté 08 mai 2014 - 06:05
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Anders and Leliana ideally shouldn't have come back either since they were both killable. But they are both too central to the plots of Dragon Age 2 and 3. If Sten was central to the plot of Inquisition he would come back regardless of what happened to him in the first game, but so far as we know he's not. If he was left in a situation where the only logical outcome was his death (which was the case if you leave him in the cage) then he should be dead and not return.
#91
Posté 08 mai 2014 - 06:18
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I think it would be cool to see him again as the Arishok for whatever reason if he survived, but I also want him to stay dead if the Warden didn't bring him along.
I think him becoming Arishok is too juicy of a story arc for bioware to let slip by, i wouldnt blame them either.
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#92
Posté 08 mai 2014 - 07:13
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Still a retcon since originally it was Velanna, not AndersAnders and Leliana ideally shouldn't have come back either since they were both killable. But they are both too central to the plots of Dragon Age 2 and 3. If Sten was central to the plot of Inquisition he would come back regardless of what happened to him in the first game, but so far as we know he's not. If he was left in a situation where the only logical outcome was his death (which was the case if you leave him in the cage) then he should be dead and not return.
We actually can kill her and Anders dies in one if the endings
At least we don't have in game face to face proof unlike with others
#93
Posté 08 mai 2014 - 10:21
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I really, really hope to see my Kadan in DAI. I also hope to see Loghain (if alive), Anders (if alive) or Justice, and maybe Anora.
Who I don't want to see are Leliana, Alistair and Isabela. But since the first two are nearly confirmed, I hope at least the last one will be away.
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Posté 08 mai 2014 - 10:52
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I hope they handled it similarly to Wrex. If Sten is around, then you buddy up with the Qunari (or at least, find it more tempting to). Perhaps make some deal with them. If not, you deal more with the disruptive prospect of conquest and proselytizing.
I kind of prefer the latter. Have everything out on the table, so to speak.
#95
Posté 08 mai 2014 - 10:57
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Wrex was a friend of Shepard, but the Inquisitor and Hero of Ferelden are two different persons. Why should Sten be a friend to the Inquee as well?
It made sense in ME, but it makes no sense in DA.
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Posté 08 mai 2014 - 11:01
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Wrex was a friend of Shepard, but the Inquisitor and Hero of Ferelden are two different persons. Why should Sten be a friend to the Inquee as well?
It made sense in ME, but it makes no sense in DA.
That's all true. I don't mean to make a direct comparison to Wrex. Only in the sense that he might be a leader willing to hear out foreigners more than say, the DA2 Arishok was. He might've not just brought cookie recipes to the Qunari. He could have also brought a sense of.... respecting everyone else's space.
#97
Posté 08 mai 2014 - 11:21
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Speaking as a huge Sten fan, I don't think he should show up in playthroughs where he was left in Lothering. I don't know if he was killed or not, but the thought of him rising to prominence as Arishok does seem rather unlikely in that scenario.
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#98
Posté 08 mai 2014 - 04:32
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Still a retcon since originally it was Velanna, not Anders
We actually can kill her and Anders dies in one if the endings
At least we don't have in game face to face proof unlike with others
My point is that there should be as few retcons in bringing people back as possible.
#99
Posté 08 mai 2014 - 05:50
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My point is that there should be as few retcons in bringing people back as possible.
Indeed. Still, such retcon wouldn't be a retcon, unlike one mage and one rogues we all know and love...
#100
Posté 08 mai 2014 - 06:04
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Speaking as a huge Sten fan, I don't think he should show up in playthroughs where he was left in Lothering. I don't know if he was killed or not, but the thought of him rising to prominence as Arishok does seem rather unlikely in that scenario.
Why not? His duty was to bring back information about the Blight. As long as he managed to recover his sword by his own means, he could have got back home to complete his mission. According to some of the epilogues, it was enough to make him a general.
“Sten returned to his homeland, leaving without a word. Upon reporting to the arishok of his observations of humanity, Sten was elevated to the rank of general and placed in charge of forces in Seheron fighting against human insurgents. This pleased Sten greatly.”
We just have to assume that he did very well in Seheron and thus became the prime candidate for the Arishok position.
The sword itself wasn't hard to find either. Just ask questions and questions until you get it from Dwyn.
Indeed. Still, such retcon wouldn't be a retcon, unlike one mage and one rogues we all know and love...
Exactly. Even the Origins Epilogue when you leave him behind casts a doubt over his death.
