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[Ridwan]

I grew up in the 80's and watched cartoons like BraveStarr, He-Man and Thundercats. And at the end of each episode, a moral lesson would be imparted on us. Trust each other, respect your elders, don't do drugs, stop bullying, and so on.

 

So when ever I see a modern cartoon, it's really about nothing. At least if a kid watched BraveStarr they might see an emotional episode where a kid actually dies from a drug overdose and not three weird looking kids with a plank or whatever.

 

Any reason why for why cartoons now are dumber and don't help kids learn about what's important?

 

[Karach_Blade]

Gargoyles was a really great show from 1994 that had a lot of depth to it as well as lessons and excellent character development. 

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

Because morally greyness is the new cool thing. jk lol

 

Watch Star Wars: Clone Wars series. It had a line of maxim at the beginning of each episode.

[Derpy]

You must have never seen MLPFiM.

All they talk is about the morals of friendship.

[Ridwan]

You must have never seen MLPFiM.

All they talk is about the morals of friendship.

 

I didn't watch the original either. Girls watched the ponies while us boys watched He-Man.

[Raizo]

I don't watch that many cartoons these days so I can't say for certain but I think most of them still have moral lessons/life lessons hidden in them, I just think that the people making these cartoons have become more subtle about how they disguise them.

 

 

The cartoons of my childhood ( G.I.Joe, Transformers, He-man, captain Planet, etc ) were not very subtle subtle with thier messages. The few cartoons that I do watch these days ( Transformers Prime, Justice league Unlimited/Young justice, Avatar/Legend of Kora ) still have moral lessons/life lessons if you know where to look.

 

I would say that the one thing that has changed from my childhood is that back when I was young the good guys always won which  always reinforced the idea the good always triumphed over evil and the good behaviour was always rewarded. A lot of today's cartoons are a lot darker in thier tone, it's not uncommon fro the good guys to be the under dogs for the vast majority of the shows run with the bad guys always being a step or two a head. As such it is a lot harder to spot these little moral lessons/life lessons because it seems like thier is no reward for being good or doing the right thing.

[Mockingword]

I didn't watch the original either. Girls watched the ponies while us boys watched He-Man.

 

I can see the appeal.

[Cainhurst Crow]

Cause teaching lessons through story telling is better then having them tacked on at the end?

[Ridwan]

Cause teaching lessons through story telling is better then having them tacked on at the end?

 

Someone here didn't watch cartoons from the 80's.

 

[Neoleviathan]

It probably has something to do with funny cartoons. Apparantly even succesful shows have been dismissed in favor of funny nonsensical cartoons becuase those draw in more boys. Moral depth is probably anti-thetical to the draw of most of those shows, especially if they're just toy selling platforms. But there are cartoons running today that have messages to them, atleast some of the time. And that would be shows like Gravity Falls, Adventure Time, so that kind of thing is still around.

It also depends on the message. Like Young Justice...

Spoiler

Superboy was getting juiced up practically, and despite the obvious anti-drug message you'd think they'd send the lesson ends up being trust between friends, doing the right thing, and not listening to your dad... if he's evil.

... not sure if I needed spoilers for that, since they seem to rinse and repeat that plot for every Superboy incarnation I've seen.

[Cainhurst Crow]

Someone here didn't watch cartoons from the 80's.
 

Why would I? I had batman the animated series and gargoyles to hold me over.

That and pirated OVA anime from blockbuster.

[Eternal Phoenix]

Ummm...they didn't? My nephew was watching Regular Show once and I sat and watched it with him and was still treated to a moral lesson at the end, this one episode was about jealously where one character was jealous of his friend's luck which he got from a fortune cookie. I could swear Ben 10 is the same.

[Secretlyapotato]

"Eat your veggies kids! Be nice to others! Don't do drugs!"

 

Little Jimmy: "Okay!"

 

The next day: Little Jimmy feeds his dog all of his green beans and pushes a girl off of the jungle gym.

 

A few years later: Jimmy now drinks and smokes weed due to peer pressure.

[Derpy]

I had this stupid D.A.R.E thing in school and they supposedly brought real weed in to show us what it looked like and then they asked us if we had any questions about it. The first thing a kid asked was:

 

"Can I smoke it?"

[Clover Rider]

 

I can see the appeal.

https://www.youtube....h?v=X8Nc8RCLy1s

[bmwcrazy]

Moral what?

 

I watch anime for T and A.

[Raizo]

I had this stupid D.A.R.E thing in school and they supposedly brought real weed in to show us what it looked like and then they asked us if we had any questions about it. The first thing a kid asked was:

 

"Can I smoke it?"

 

Did he get to smoke it?

 

The only thing I got from my high school was a lecture from the head master about 'pancake theory' and a chihuahua trying to mount a great dane.

[bmwcrazy]

Did he get to smoke it?

 

The only thing I got from my high school was a lecture from the head master about 'pancake theory' and a chihuahua trying to mount a great dane.

 

I don't know what a pancake theory is but now I kind of want to see a great dane mount a chihuahua. 

[Derpy]

They told the kid that smoking weed is bad and that is why they where there teaching us not to smoke it.

[TheClonesLegacy]

It really depends on what shows you're talking about. I can think of several shows from the past 10 or so years that gave kids pretty good lessons to follow. First one off the top of my head is Ultimate Spider-man which is a series about teamwork and not being a jackass (A very important lesson)
It's just they're not spelled out with stupid "Sonic Sez"-esque stinger at the end that ALOT of 80s and 90s series did (Not saying all, but alot of them did that).
Or in say Captain Planet and Beast Machines case, were 2-season long belated "The Enviroment is gud" Messages rammed down your throat.

[mousestalker]

OP, do you mean like these? Or these?

[metatheurgist]

You gotta remember in the 80's (pretty much before the SImpsons), network executives were 100% sure that cartoons were for kids, really young kids. So everything had to be brightly colored and obvious. Some writers still snuck in some adult themes, references and subtext (Adventure Time still does this) - those shows were enjoyed by young and old. Now some cartoons attempt sophistication so they're a bit less obvious.

[mybudgee]

I enjoyed the "Looney Tunes" despite the thinly veiled racist themes

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

We still have this bunch (though they're not as popular as in 20th century):