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Hah. Nope. Just a lying viper that'll do whatever it takes to push her own damn agenda, even if it means betraying and framing your friends for murder.

 

You don't think Rhys wasn't pushing his when he agreed to fight instead of surrendering? By doing that he started the templar/mage war.



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Adrian's description is so manipulating. She is described as a short woman with red hair and freckles. Sounds adorable.



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But since Dawn of the Seeker revolves around pretty much the exact same kind of relationship, I think BioWare might just have a boner for female-on-male spousal abuse.

Perhaps you ought to stop right there. That's a totally bogus and BS claim.



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Framing your ex-boyfriend is kind of rude, but at least Adrian can make a damn decision.
 
If I was a mage, I'd rather have her leading me. Rhys is an indecisive clod who apparently has no problems hooking up with a psychotic ****** who knocked him unconscious when he was being totally co-operative, and was perfectly happy to let him starve to death in a dungeon.
 
If Rhys was Rebecca and Evagenline was Eustace, everyone would be up in arms about how creepy and abusive and Stockholm Syndrome-y their relationship is.
 
But since Dawn of the Seeker revolves around pretty much the exact same kind of relationship, I think BioWare might just have a boner for female-on-male spousal abuse.

I'd prefer Orsino over Adrian. And I wouldn't trust Orsino with my dog.

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Adrian's description is so manipulating. She is described as a short woman with red hair and freckles. Sounds adorable.

 

cant bring myeslf to dislike a redhead... but cant bring myself to fully like her either



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Adrian's description is so manipulating. She is described as a short woman with red hair and freckles. Sounds adorable.

And one hell of a temper that belies her small stature. And also, she pretty much only uses powerful fire magic.



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You don't think Rhys wasn't pushing his when he agreed to fight instead of surrendering? By doing that he started the templar/mage war.


Other than i don't understand how this is related to elu's post, Rhys didnt have much choice at that point. At the end of the book, after the escape, returning would've been a great mistake.

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And one hell of a temper that belies her small stature. And also, she pretty much only uses powerful fire magic.

 

I'm starting to think that one concept art is her



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Perhaps you ought to stop right there. That's a totally bogus and BS claim.

No, you're right, it's totally cool that Cassandra attacks Regalyan for no reason, chases him with her sword out when he is unarmed and trying to converse with her peacefully, and then continues to treat him violently after they have agreed to work together.



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And one hell of a temper that belies her small stature. And also, she pretty much only uses powerful fire magic.

 

Oh agreed. I'm not on /TeamAdrian. Its just that her looks are adorable.



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You don't think Rhys wasn't pushing his when he agreed to fight instead of surrendering? By doing that he started the templar/mage war.

No, the war started when she chose to frame her ex-lover for murder and let him become a sacrificial scapegoat. Every death is on HER head.



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I'm starting to think that one concept art is her

 

The concept art where one of the female mages slit her hand and has red eyes? Because if thats the one then I was thinking the same thing.



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I'm starting to think that one concept art is her

This one? Definitely agree.

 

640px-DAI_Confrontation.jpg



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I find it easier to sympathize with Anders' choices than Adrian's. The way Adrian framed Rhys was cowardly. If it wasn't for her own personality flaws, maybe she could have lead the mages the way she expected Rhys to do so, without shady, unethical tactics. I can respect that Anders owned his choices and was willing to take responsibility. I don't sympathize with the Chantry as a supposed "innocent bystander". They gave up that position when they decided to establish an army. 



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The concept art where one of the female mages slit her hand and has red eyes? Because if thats the one then I was thinking the same thing.

 

No, the one Elu just posted



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No, you're right, it's totally cool that Cassandra attacks Regalyan for no reason, chases him with her sword out when he is unarmed and trying to converse with her peacefully, and then continues to treat him violently after they have agreed to work together.

 

That isn't cool, but I don't think it had anything to do with gender or "spousal abuse". It's more about their standing (mage and Seeker... with the Seeker having many hangups and an aggressive personality).



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No, the war started when she chose to frame her ex-lover for murder and let him become a sacrificial scapegoat. Every death is on HER head.

Or it could be on Lambert's, since he was very transparently looking for any excuse to march in and slaughter the mages.

 

He was going to have Pharamond made tranquil anyway, to silence him. Killing him was just more efficient. If anything, Adrian did Lambert a favour.



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This one? Definitely agree.

 

640px-DAI_Confrontation.jpg

 

Thats actually pretty hawt. I'm not kidding.



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Or it could be on Lambert's, since he was very transparently looking for any excuse to march in and slaughter the mages.

 

He was going to have Pharamond made tranquil anyway, to silence him. Killing him was just more efficient. If anything, Adrian did Lambert a favour.

Oh no, don't get me wrong. I hold him accountable as well. Both characters drove me up the wall.



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Or it could be on Lambert's, since he was very transparently looking for any excuse to march in and slaughter the mages.

 

He was going to have Pharamond made tranquil anyway, to silence him. Killing him was just more efficient. If anything, Adrian did Lambert a favour.

He already told Evangeline to kill them all before they came back if she found there was anything suggesting Tranquility could be undone. If it was up to him, they'd already be dead. She just bucked his order. lol   



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Or it could be on Lambert's, since he was very transparently looking for any excuse to march in and slaughter the mages.

 

He was going to have Pharamond made tranquil anyway, to silence him. Killing him was just more efficient. If anything, Adrian did Lambert a favour.

 

It's on both of their heads



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Or it could be on Lambert's, since he was very transparently looking for any excuse to march in and slaughter the mages.

He was going to have Pharamond made tranquil anyway, to silence him. Killing him was just more efficient. If anything, Adrian did Lambert a favour.

To Silence him? Adrian, Rhys, and Wynne all know about how he detranquilized himself. The mages knew about it Thanks to Wynne's plost. Pharamond had nothing kept secret that could justify silencing him. Lamber wanted him to be tranquil because 1) he thought the reason for tranquilizing him before was valid, and 2)for scoring a point in the debate.
He wanted an excuse, possibly, to capture Rhys and accuse him of the murders. Which Adrian gave him, with the goal of making Wynne joining their side.
And Lambert didn't want to kill any mage in the meeting (though he wanted to end it). He wanted to take Rhys. And sadly, Adrian's plot gave him all the reason to do so.
That said, both him and Adrian are responsible for the war.

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That isn't cool, but I don't think it had anything to do with gender or "spousal abuse". It's more about their standing (mage and Seeker... with the Seeker having many hangups and an aggressive personality).

Right, but what's worse is that Regalyan apparently totally digs it, and makes a filrty quip when they're rolling around on the grass. And then afterwards, it's heavily implied that they will start a relationship, and the film is just totally okay with this.

 

And what's worse than that, is that based on her behaviour in DA2, and now in the DA:I trailer, she still hasn't learned her lesson, continuing to stab first and ask questions never. She was pretty much unbearable in Dawn of the Seeker, and I'm not super stoked about having her in my party (as a romance option no less), when she pulls the exact same shtick on the protagonist.

 

And what's worse than that is that, in Asunder, basically the exact same thing happens between Rhys and Evangeline, only she does worse to him when she has less of a reason to be suspicious. And he still has no qualms about getting into a relationship with her.

 

The overall vibe that I'm getting is that irrational violence makes men creepy, but makes women "strong and independent", even when those women are already in positions of power over those men. Positions that they could easily abuse.

 

If the gender roles were reversed in these situations, people would see them for what they are. Hell, all Cullen did was admit to having a crush on a mage, and half the forum was ready to lynch him before he so much as laid a finger on her.



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Thats actually pretty hawt. I'm not kidding.

*facepalm*


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Thats actually pretty hawt. I'm not kidding.

 

weirdo :P


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