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I don't see her as boring at all.
She's really bothers me actually. Not just for her beliefs. I feel very manipulated, multiple times in that DLC.. up to the last moment, when you have the crossroads in that cave. I feel like I'd be going down a bad path, for helping her. That's how much trust I have at that point. lol
Wynne sent messages out to all the circles, telling them about it, didn't she?
She spread the news of the discovery. Rhys is the only one who knows Pharamond's actual ritual to draw a powerful spirit into the material world to possess the Tranquil.
Well, then he'd better write it the **** down before he gets blown to giblets.
What's this about?
I must've missed this.
The Qunari have a sort of....breeding program, I guess you would call it.
Well, then he'd better write it the **** down before he gets blown to giblets.
It might become obsolete though, since the Veil has ripped and spirit/demons are freely roaming around Thedas. Even being in proximity to a spirit was enough to restore Karl for a brief time.
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The Qunari have a sort of....breeding program, I guess you would call it.
I guess that fits with everything else about them.
I really don't care what they do or who comes to them.. I just wish they'd leave everyone alone. They have no sense of space.
That's irrelevant to my post. i wasn't debating about the Chantry being good/bad in Asunder. I was just saying that when Evangeline found Rhys at night in the WS she had reason to suspect him.They weren't interested in solving the murders until the Divine was attacked. In Chapter 3, it is clear that the Lord Seeker was looking for a blood mage. He thought a blood mage killed them for blood magic.
Rhy was just being question. He was being held for 4 days without water or food. They wanted names of people they could blame the attempted murder on. They were not going to release him. Wynne was afraid and force them to release him for her project signed by the Divine.
Evangeline wanted to know who he was fighting. He wanted to tell them but knew they wouldn't believe him.
It seems that they had already loss people in those prisons. I guess this is how Cole came to be. They forgot about him and he died.
Edit: Per book Rhy was charged as being the primary suspect. Here is the rub: He was not found with any blood or by any dead victim. It was based on location way after the fact. No dead body no blood doesn't make for a good reason to keep him for 4 days. Not a good place to be.
That's irrelevant to my post. i wasn't debating about the Chantry being good/bad in Asunder. I was just saying that when Evangeline found Rhys at night in the WS she had reason to suspect him.
But not to hit him on the head or starve him to death, which was my point.
Anders was the one that started the war by killing innocent people, if he shows up, well probably have to fight him. I highly doubt he'd be a companion again, especially since you could kill him in 2.
That's irrelevant to my post. i wasn't debating about the Chantry being good/bad in Asunder. I was just saying that when Evangeline found Rhys at night in the WS she had reason to suspect him.
I believe the point we are trying to make was that he was going to be dehydrated/dead or tranquil. She didn't have anything to tie him to those murders. The Lord Seeker told Wynne Rhys was the prime suspect for those murders.
Wynne knew he was a going to be made tranquil or left for dead with no trial. That is why she told him to learn the ritual and she sent the information to all First Enchanters through the sending stone to meet. She knew "the just questioning" wasn't going to fare well. The last thing any mage would want is to be pulled over for Just Questioning at least in White Spire under the Lord Seeker. Yes, Rhys was stupid.
But not to hit him on the head or starve him to death, which was my point.
Sigh. Mockingword stated that she had less than a reason to suspect of him. I addressed that part of the post.I believe the point we are trying to make was that he was going to be dehydrated/dead or tranquil. She didn't have anything to tie him to those murders. The Lord Seeker told Wynne Rhys was the prime suspect for those murders.
Wynne knew he was a going to be made tranquil or left for dead with no trial. That is why she told him to learn the ritual and she sent the information to all First Enchanters through the sending stone to meet. She knew "the just questioning" wasn't going to fare well. The last thing any mage would want is to be pulled over for Just Questioning at least in White Spire under the Lord Seeker. Yes, Rhys was stupid.
Personally, if Anders shows up in my game, he will be put in the ground just like every other rebel mage and rogue Templar. I fully intend to break both groups over my knee and then hurl the remains at those responsible for the Fade tear. If there are any left I'll consider building something new.
Personally, if Anders shows up in my game, he will be put in the ground just like every other rebel mage and rogue Templar. I fully intend to break both groups over my knee and then hurl the remains at those responsible for the Fade tear. If there are any left I'll consider building something new.
I agree. There are problems on both ends. I feel sorry the good ones that have tried so hard to make changes to help everyone.
Sigh. Mockingword stated that she had less than a reason to suspect of him. I addressed that part of the post.
Misunderstanding. I thought Mockingword's point was that she didn't have enough to charge him as prime suspect for the murders. I agree with this. Sorry to interrupt. Won't happen again.
Misunderstanding. I thought Mockingword's point was that she didn't have enough to charge him as prime suspect for the murders. I agree with this. Sorry to interrupt. Won't happen again.
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I agree. There are problems on both ends. I feel sorry the good ones that have tried so hard to make changes to help everyone.
There is no shame in failing while trying to do the right thing. If nothing else, it's better than succeeding at doing the wrong thing.
I sided with Petrice in one PT. It was pretty underwhelming, compared to Arishok.
My preferred way of dealing with Petrice is:
-- Side with Varnell at rally (makes her look really stupid while trying to set you up).
-- Go to at day Chantry, tell her to just lay low (my Hawke will accept their help if the qunari become aggressive, but is not looking to incite them).
-- Take Aveline to the Chantry in Following the Qun, call off the alliance with her after she murders the Viscount's son (for trying to incite) -- so she openly admits to murder in front of the Captain of the Guard before you renege your agreement, rather than trying to frame you into it as she does otherwise. Grand Cleric Elthina will also note that the guard is on your side when Petrice brings her.
^ try that some time. Dumb broad gets played like a DVD.
There is no shame in failing while trying to do the right thing. If nothing else, it's better than succeeding at doing the wrong thing.
Beautifully said.
Take it up with Hinata Hyuga, who started it by equating Chantry sisters with the citizens of dictatorships. I was only working within her parameters.
Or, you know, take it up with BioWare, who draw very transparently from themes of fascism and dictatorship in their depictino of various organisations, including the precious Chantry.
Oh, but wait, I forgot. It's only a "fallacy" when the opposition uses it. Silly me.
No, you said that. I said it is the same principle of judging a member of a group by the actions of another group.
^ try that some time. Dumb broad gets played like a DVD.
What about "Boom, Head Shot" from that one Qunari
. Is blowing up the Chantry misguided. I’m going with a resounding no here. Why? Because it’s a political target symbolic of the oppression of mages run by a woman who condones said oppression. I got into the character of Elthina a bit in an earlier post. I don’t want to run on about her here, so I’ll summarize: Elthina says it’s not her job to judge Meredith’s character. This is incorrect. The templars answer to the Chantry, Elthina’s the highest ranking member of the Chantry in Kirkwall, thus it is her job to oversee her subordinates and make sure they don’t abuse their position. She even demonstrates her authority over Meredith in Act 3 when she sends her back to the Gallows and tells her to be “a good girl.” So Elthina has power, uses it, but chooses not to use it when the mages are concerned. While she doesn’t support the Tranquil Solution, she also does nothing to punish those who allowed it to happen. Her inaction translates into silent support for a regime that terrorizes its victims. Thus, she and the Chantry are a perfectly valid target for an act of war.
And that’s what blowing up the Chantry is: a declaration of war. Yes, it can also be seen as a terrorist act. Terrorism is defined as the use of violence or threat of violence for coercion, especially with political purposes. Yet it is also defined as a terroristic method of governing, which Meredith, the templars, and the Chantry are responsible for. So both sides here have delved into these waters. I’m not saying that makes Anders right. But neither does it make the templars or the Chantry pure victims. They most certainly are not, not when they condone the rapes, beatings, and forced-Tranquilities of countless mages. Not when they terrorize non-mages for harboring apostates. Kirkwall at the end of Act 3 is a terrorist state.
You’ll be hard pressed to find any act of war or violence that leads to peace and understanding, agreed. Then again, you’ll be hard pressed to find any act period that leads to peace and understanding. Civil disobedience in the 60s still sparked hundreds of riots that got thousands of people killed. The Easter Rising in Ireland was supposed to be a peaceful protest in which the Irish seized control of federal buildings and read out a declaration of Independence. It turned into a massacre that led to the imprisonment, torture, and execution of its ringleaders, which in turn lead to one of the most violent revolutions and civil wars, the effects of which are still being felt today.
It’s not easy to say Anders should have done something different, then things would have turned out better. For one thing, it’s an oversimplification of a larger issue. There’s no saying peace and understanding would have come about from a peaceful means of protest. For another, Anders had been trying for this peaceful compromise for years. Hence the manifestos and all the times he mentions speaking to the Grand Cleric. No one listens. No one did anything. So he acted instead.
Right, but what's worse is that Regalyan apparently totally digs it, and makes a filrty quip when they're rolling around on the grass. And then afterwards, it's heavily implied that they will start a relationship, and the film is just totally okay with this.
And what's worse than that, is that based on her behaviour in DA2, and now in the DA:I trailer, she still hasn't learned her lesson, continuing to stab first and ask questions never. She was pretty much unbearable in Dawn of the Seeker, and I'm not super stoked about having her in my party (as a romance option no less), when she pulls the exact same shtick on the protagonist.
And what's worse than that is that, in Asunder, basically the exact same thing happens between Rhys and Evangeline, only she does worse to him when she has less of a reason to be suspicious. And he still has no qualms about getting into a relationship with her.
In DA2, Cassandra only pulled her dagger out after Varric tried being a smarta**, and in the trailer she is emotionally compromised since the leadership of the Chantry probably just died.
Looks like the Nazi card was drawn yet again by Raijin.
What about "Boom, Head Shot" from that one Qunari
Yeah, that still happens. Kinda stole my thunder a bit, but still, it was very satisfying to screw her over like that before she dies.
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