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[Statichands]

I started thinking about this when I did that mission in ME2 where you have to bait Morinth. I remember how Morinth spoke about how she liked the dark pulses with all that Expel 10 stuff. I was thinking, "she would love Slipknot and Slayer." I spoke to friend about it and we both agreed that she is the kind of person that would listen to them. So my question is, do you think musicians in Mass Effect still play the instruments we have today? I'd so love to take  Jack to a Exodus, Slayer or Metallica show. 

[shodiswe]

Probably both a yes and a no there.

There will likely be some new instruments and sounds, aswell as some classics that people are experimenting with, aswell as recreating older music.

I'm not a "music" person, so I'm only guessing. It isn't one of my big interests.

[Han Shot First]

Mass Effect 1 is set 169 years after the current date. If we were to go back 169 years, it would be 1845. Think about how much tastes in music have changed since 1845. And how many popular musicians from the 1840s are still household names today? I would imagine the same would be true 169 years in the future, and many bands that are popular now would either be extremely obscure or completely forgotten. 

 

There might still be some people who listening to bands like Metallica or The Rolling Stones, just as there are people today who still listen to performances of Chopin or Mozart, but they'd probably be a small minority. 

[BigEvil]

I'd be more interested in learning about what sort of music and instruments the other species have. And also if music has abandoned lyrics since none of the music that plays in the clubs/bars (that I can remember anyway) had any.

[Han Shot First]

I'd be more interested in learning about what sort of music and instruments the other species have. And also if music has abandoned lyrics since none of the music that plays in the clubs/bars (that I can remember anyway) had any.

 

There is at least one song that I can recall that has lyrics:

 

 

[NoMoreCalibrations]

I'd be more interested in learning about what sort of music and instruments the other species have. And also if music has abandoned lyrics since none of the music that plays in the clubs/bars (that I can remember anyway) had any.

 

I was just thinking the same while reading this thread! There's little to no vocals in any Mass Effect music. It does makes sense when you think about it.

 

With auto-tune and synthesizers so prevalent in popular music these days, it's getting to the point where I have to wonder whether the singer or the sound engineer should get the headline. Perhaps the natural progression of music leads to ME's style of electronic beats and pulses with vocals all but eliminated.

[Sir DeLoria]

Mass Effect 1 is set 169 years after the current date. If we were to go back 169 years, it would be 1845. Think about how much tastes in music have changed since 1845. And how many popular musicians from the 1840s are still household names today? I would imagine the same would be true 169 years in the future, and many bands that are popular now would either be extremely obscure or completely forgotten. 
 
There might still be some people who listening to bands like Metallica or The Rolling Stones, just as there are people today who still listen to performances of Chopin or Mozart, but they'd probably be a small minority.

Problem is that a lot of music was 'lost' because it was much harder to preserve it over time. Many pieces by Johann Sebastian Bach were only rediscovered many decades later by accident. So I think it's likely music of our time would survive longer thanks to storage devices.

[Statichands]

I'd be more interested in learning about what sort of music and instruments the other species have. And also if music has abandoned lyrics since none of the music that plays in the clubs/bars (that I can remember anyway) had any.

 

Very true like listening to the asari in in their own language. I guess other species would be interested in out music too

[justafan]

I'd be more interested in learning about what sort of music and instruments the other species have. And also if music has abandoned lyrics since none of the music that plays in the clubs/bars (that I can remember anyway) had any.

That would have been cool to see, for instance they actually make several references to quarian music throughout the series, though unfortunately we never get to see it.  Though I like to imagine they listen to the ME theme music, and for some unknown reason tastes in the future have moved away from vocalists.

[NoMoreCalibrations]

We did see from the Citadel DLC that The Asari still enjoy the piano, based on Liara's scenes. It did become clear that instruments have been adapted as time went on, though.

[Diesel]

On the other hand we still play instruments made hundreds of years ago (or older) today and classical still has a commercial audience. People today still play acoustic guitars when electric ones are available (or synthesizers for that matter). They will always be a population that will continue to fuse old and new sounds. Given that there's alien cultures in MEU I can imagine that the diversity would only grow. The most popular instrument may be a "future" one, but I can't see why the old ones need to go away.

 

Ha! I just had an image of Shepard playing the harmonica. Probably with Garrus.

[Coming0fShadows]

Considering how meaningless the lyrics are getting in music these days, it makes complete sense if they get dropped all together.

[Bob from Accounting]

Mass Effect 1 is set 169 years after the current date. If we were to go back 169 years, it would be 1845. Think about how much tastes in music have changed since 1845. And how many popular musicians from the 1840s are still household names today? I would imagine the same would be true 169 years in the future, and many bands that are popular now would either be extremely obscure or completely forgotten. 

 

I wouldn't be so sure.
 

[TheTurtle]

I wouldn't be so sure.

Why not? Music from this century has so far beem very forgettable. With the current generation something is here today and gone tomorrow. Music doesn't have the sam lasting appeal as it once did. There will of course be your Beethovens, Mozart's, and Bach's, but otherwise most of our current culture and music will be forgotten.

[KaiserShep]

Mass Effect 1 is set 169 years after the current date. If we were to go back 169 years, it would be 1845. Think about how much tastes in music have changed since 1845. And how many popular musicians from the 1840s are still household names today? I would imagine the same would be true 169 years in the future, and many bands that are popular now would either be extremely obscure or completely forgotten. 

 

There might still be some people who listening to bands like Metallica or The Rolling Stones, just as there are people today who still listen to performances of Chopin or Mozart, but they'd probably be a small minority. 

 

That reminds me of one of the early episodes of Doctor Who (9th Doctor) where they played "classical" music on a jukebox (called an iPod), which was Toxic by Britney Spears a few billion years into the future lol.

[Jorji Costava]

My sense is that attempting to project musical, literary or artistic tastes hundreds of years into the future is a double-bind; there's no real way to win. If you played music that's popular today to people who lived 150 years ago, they'd probably say it's rubbish (heck, just compare how people reacted to Stravinsky's Rite of Spring when it premiered in 1913 to its use in Fantasia only a couple decades later). So it's likely that if somehow, people from 150 years in the future were able travel back in time and allow us to sample their music, it wouldn't be to our tastes at all.

 

So if you're creating a fictional work set a century or two in the future, you can either attempt to make a prediction about what music will be like 150 years from now, in which case it's likely that your audience will find it to be ear cancer, or you can just make it fairly similar to what we have now, in which case audiences will be left thinking, "How come musical tastes haven't changed much in 150 years?" Damned if you do, and damned if you don't (not to mention it would take extraordinary luck for you to actually be right about what music will be like in the future).

 

It's similar to how even though Star Trek is set way in the future, the authors and creative people the characters cite are always people the audience would recognize from our own actual history, as if great works stopped being made from the 21st century onward. If you to try to have a character say something like, "As the brilliant 22nd century author So-and-So once wrote, 'blah blah blah,'" you're automatically putting pressure on yourself to make whatever you fill in for "blah blah blah" be on a par with Shakespeare and such. Otherwise, clever audience members will be left to think, "Wow, the quality of literature really went down in the 22nd century." Better to play it safe and stick with the established established canon.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

For one thing we've already done the 12 tone experiment last century which did not go over well with our species. 

 

Here's some examples: https://www.youtube....h?v=kuaQ3ITDAu0; https://www.youtube....h?v=IMfi_AKQtes

 

I'm sure you could put that to a dance beat.

 

Or some species could go microtonal like this: https://www.youtube....h?v=B9WPfkXQa_Y

 

And perhaps they have an odd dance meter as well like maybe 7:8 time or 5:4 time instead of our 4:4 time or 3:4 time. https://www.youtube....h?v=HSx6hXHzRHc

 

This would have given a more alien feel to it, but less "Rule of Cool."

[Statichands]

Considering how meaningless the lyrics are getting in music these days, it makes complete sense if they get dropped all together.

 

Yea, remember when rap wasn't about getting woman and money. These days rap and hip hop are more of a business

[Statichands]

There is at least one song that I can recall that has lyrics:

 

 

 

OMG. I've always heard the intro in shepard's cabin but I always left before the lyrics kicked in

[Han Shot First]

I wouldn't be so sure.
 

 

Musical tastes change from decade to decade, let alone over a century and a half.

 

How many people listen to the same music their grandparents enjoyed? When we are old enough to have grandchildren, most of the bands or artists popular today will have become mostly forgotten. Some bands might stand the test of time and people will be listening to their music 150 years later, but they'll probably be the exception. 

[Diesel]

How many people listen to the same music their grandparents enjoyed?

 

About 10 years ago I went back to listen to a lot of Big Band. I'd bet my grandparents probably enjoyed some of it since it was the "pop" of the day. I'm 10 years older than my brother. I found it amusing one day that he was listening to 1980s music and saying how great it was. Granted that's not like 200 years in the future, but it was still interesting because at that point (late 1990s) the sound of the 1980s was very much out of vogue.

 

Assuming that digital music catalogs that we have today continue into the future I don't see why people wouldn't listen to centuries old stuff. Why couldn't there be a revival in a certain genre? What's more interesting is how they'd choose music in a place like the Citadel with so many different races.

[Sir DeLoria]

Considering how meaningless the lyrics are getting in music these days, it makes complete sense if they get dropped all together.

You should delve more into Indie music, there are many great contemporary bands with amazing lyricists. Indie rock band Modest Mouse for example often features abstract sounding lyrics that are filled with metaphors and symbolism, used to express social commentary.

Why not? Music from this century has so far beem very forgettable. With the current generation something is here today and gone tomorrow. Music doesn't have the sam lasting appeal as it once did. There will of course be your Beethovens, Mozart's, and Bach's, but otherwise most of our current culture and music will be forgotten.

Wrong, very wrong. The last three centuries featured countless musicians who were at the time quite renowned, but have now been completely forgotten and popularity didn't have that much to do with remembrance. Bach wasn't even that popular in his time, he only became a legend several decades after his music was rediscovered and many famous musicians died poor and forgotten by the public(Mozart was burried in an unmarked peasants grave).

Mozart, Beethoven, Schubert, Chopin, Brahms, Brückner etc. were by far not the only musicians of their time, they were just among the very few lucky ones to be remembered.

[Han Shot First]

About 10 years ago I went back to listen to a lot of Big Band. I'd bet my grandparents probably enjoyed some of it since it was the "pop" of the day. I'm 10 years older than my brother. I found it amusing one day that he was listening to 1980s music and saying how great it was. Granted that's not like 200 years in the future, but it was still interesting because at that point (late 1990s) the sound of the 1980s was very much out of vogue.

 

Assuming that digital music catalogs that we have today continue into the future I don't see why people wouldn't listen to centuries old stuff. Why couldn't there be a revival in a certain genre? What's more interesting is how they'd choose music in a place like the Citadel with so many different races.

 

I'm sure that some artists or bands popular today would stand the test of time, and would still have people occasionally listening to their music decades or even centuries later. But I'm also fairly certain that 150 years or so later none of them will be at the top of the charts. 

[TheTurtle]

You should delve more into Indie music, there are many great contemporary bands with amazing lyricists. Indie rock band Modest Mouse for example often features abstract sounding lyrics that are filled with metaphors and symbolism, used to express social commentary.

Wrong, very wrong. The last three centuries featured countless musicians who were at the time quite renowned, but have now been completely forgotten and popularity didn't have that much to do with remembrance. Bach wasn't even that popular in his time, he only became a legend several decades after his music was rediscovered and many famous musicians died poor and forgotten by the public(Mozart was burried in an unmarked peasants grave).

Mozart, Beethoven, Schubert, Chopin, Brahms, Brückner etc. were by far not the only musicians of their time, they were just among the very few lucky ones to be remembered.

I thought I was clear, but I guess not. My post is saying that there will be a few people who are remembered. Nowhere did I say these people were popular during there life times and I don't know where you got that idea from.

[Sir DeLoria]

I thought I was clear, but I guess not. My post is saying that there will be a few people who are remembered. Nowhere did I say these people were popular during there life times and I don't know where you got that idea from.

You wrote that music this century has been forgettable and that the current generation changes its taste in music all the time. My point was, that this has always been the case and that the musicians you named were just lucky to be remembered.