Now I was reading about lyrium the other day and:
''Mages cannot even approach unprocessed lyrium. Doing so is invariably fatal.''
I would like to know a few things:
1) Where is this information taken from?
2) Why would unprocessed lyrium kill mages while if processed it bolsters their abilities? Seems weird.
3) Could it be that raw lyrium coated weaponry could be used to great effect to fighting mages? Like kryptonite.
Now I was reading about lyrium the other day and:
''Mages cannot even approach unprocessed lyrium. Doing so is invariably fatal.''
I would like to know a few things:
1) Where is this information taken from?
2) Why would unprocessed lyrium kill mages while if processed it bolsters their abilities? Seems weird.
3) Could it be that raw lyrium coated weaponry could be used to great effect to fighting mages? Like kryptonite.
1. I'm assuming that the codex entry was a result of early mages dying from it.
2. I believe it was stated that exposure to unprocessed lyrium cause severe hemorrhaging due to the shock of absorbing so much energy.
3. Raw lyrium still affects normal people, even in proximity -- "Even for dwarves, exposure to the unprocessed mineral can cause deafness or memory loss. For humans and elves, direct contact with lyrium ore produces nausea, blistering of the skin, and dementia"
Raw lyrium kills everybody. The more magically sensitive a person, the more harmful the effect. So no, you can't weaponize lyrium.
It's stated right in the World of Thedas.
More harmful than death?
Maybe dwarves can? They are resistant.
I also wonder how lyrium is being processed. What do you do to a deadly mineral to make it ''good'' for you.
2. I believe it was stated that exposure to unprocessed lyrium cause severe hemorrhaging due to the shock of absorbing so much energy.
Theories, theories:
If it's about absorbing the energy of the lyrium, can you train yourself to handle it? To use lyrium in a way that gameplay presents it, restoring your mana like from a potion?
Didn't those lyrium veins in the Fade and Deep Roads in DA:O heal anyone that approaches them but dwarves? O_o
Theories, theories:
If it's about absorbing the energy of the lyrium, can you train yourself to handle it? To use lyrium in a way that gameplay presents it, restoring your mana like from a potion?
*shrug*
I'm assuming it's damn near impossible given how it seems to be fatal to anyone who even tries.
Didn't those lyrium veins in the Fade and Deep Roads in DA:O heal anyone that approaches them but dwarves? O_o
I'm calling that a gameplay/lore segregation, cause yes, that looked about as raw a lyrium as you can get.
I always imagine the method of processing Lyrium one of two ways. For Lyrium potions you'd mix the mineral with a liquid to dilute it enough so it gives the intended magical effect without having the negative health effects to the mage. To make the Lyrium into magical items like enchantments you'd melt the lyrium into an alloy.
For Lyrium potions you'd mix the mineral with a liquid to dilute it enough.
Here's a question, if it needs to be simply diluted. Does it matter how big the unprocessed lyrium vein is? Is the effect the same, or does the effect vary by the amount, say would a mage die from just a little bit of unprocessed lyrium?
Here's a question, if it needs to be simply diluted. Does it matter how big the unprocessed lyrium vein is? Is the effect the same, or does the effect vary by the amount, say would a mage die from just a little bit of unprocessed lyrium?
My guess that even a little bit of unprocessed lyrium might be minutely slower in killing the mage, but I think it'd be still fatal.
Regardless, we have no way to test this.
My guess that even a little bit of unprocessed lyrium might be minutely slower in killing the mage, but I think it'd be still fatal.
Regardless, we have no way to test this.
It's just that, if the amount doesn't matter then it's not about energy overload, and processing is not about diluting, because both those things are directly tied to the amount. So there must be something else going on in the process and in the reaction to lyrium.
It's just that, if the amount doesn't matter then it's not about energy overload, and processing is not about diluting, because both those things are directly tied to the amount. So there must be something else going on in the process and in the reaction to lyrium.
I agree that there is something more to it, but I wouldn't have the faintest clue where to start speculation.
Here's a question, if it needs to be simply diluted. Does it matter how big the unprocessed lyrium vein is? Is the effect the same, or does the effect vary by the amount, say would a mage die from just a little bit of unprocessed lyrium?
No one is sure about the exact method of Lyrium processing because nothings been put out. However I'm forced to assume that the method of making Lyrium potions is something that can be done with whatever resources are available to a Circle of Magi because there's a side quest in DAO where you smuggle in raw lyrium to a circle mage so he can make potions without Templar monitoring so clearly he knows how to process the Lyrium to make it into potions without dying.
I agree that there is something more to it, but I wouldn't have the faintest clue where to start speculation.
Let's see.. Lyrium is directly tied to the fade.. perhaps even a piece of the fade material in the mortal world. What happens to people when they come into physical contact with the fade? The fade tear in the inquisition killed thousands, they where exposed.. Perhaps peope are hurt by Lyrium because of that. But why do mages die outright? When did mages touch the fade physically? Last time mages tried to enter the fade physically they came back as darkspawn. They didn't die.. why? Although let's see.. People DO actually die to the taint when exposed to it, and the only thing that can save them is the joining,.
Sorry, I'm on a wild though rampage here..
Erm, theory: Grey warden mages do not die from being exposed to lyrium because the taint that has it's origins in the fade protects them, and is a link between two words. Becoming a grey warden is a solution to becoming less effected by lyrium in a bad way. Perhaps grey wardens can even harvest the raw lyrium to good effects like regeneration. HA!
Avernus should know more.
Lyrium potions are made using lyrium dust. There's also lyrium sand, which would be bigger particles, that can be used in explosives. Full on chunks of it are dangerous to everyone including dwarves.
Full on chunks of it are dangerous to everyone including dwarves.
What about small little chunkies?
What about small little chunkies?
Ya I assume so... if sand sized particles can blow a building up then anything bigger then that is likely way more dangerous.
Now I was reading about lyrium the other day and:
''Mages cannot even approach unprocessed lyrium. Doing so is invariably fatal.''
I would like to know a few things:
1) Where is this information taken from?
2) Why would unprocessed lyrium kill mages while if processed it bolsters their abilities? Seems weird.
3) Could it be that raw lyrium coated weaponry could be used to great effect to fighting mages? Like kryptonite.
I'm calling that a gameplay/lore segregation, cause yes, that looked about as raw a lyrium as you can get.
The devs outright said that's what it was, because they needed a healing mechanic.
Heh, potions weren't enough.
I suppose it's cuz of the DR length and the Fade isolation then.
just treat it like uranium or plutonium, its radioactive and harmful to those who dont handle it properly...
More harmful than death?
Maybe dwarves can? They are resistant.
I also wonder how lyrium is being processed. What do you do to a deadly mineral to make it ''good'' for you.
adding in a few oxygen molecules to anything will make it less toxic, but its still toxic, just in gaseous form
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