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[The Elder King]

This is btw sadly why I never get the romance I want. It's always "i cant put you ahead of my people, ahead my faith, my ritual", and the protagonist is like "yah, I cant put you ahead of my heroic quest either". Which to me feels shallow. And there is no way around it.
Back on topic I think Qunari would discourage a deep relationship with a particular person, Qun and collective as a whole should come first. Being friendly is good but to everybody equally.

To clarify, I wasn't really talking about the examples you made when I talked about extreme devotion (though I think it's hard to implement in games like the ME IP, DAO and DAI. The type of story of DA2, I think, would've been better suited to your ideas). I was referring to doing extreme things if your loved one asked you to.
On qunari, I don't know. I think you're free to create deep bonds with others. They woudn't out those people above the Qun though.

[The Elder King]

Can you have sex with the opposite sex as a gay person? Because as a straight person, I'm not sure I would be able to bring myself to arousal with the same sex, much less reach ejaculation.

They can be forced, I guess.

[Chari]

Can you have sex with the opposite sex as a gay person? Because as a straight person, I'm not sure I would be able to bring myself to arousal with the same sex, much less reach ejaculation.

No choice, your genes are too valued, so your little friend better listen to the demand of the Qun...
Sad as that is, no one has a choice in a breeding program

[KainD]

To clarify, I wasn't really talking about the examples you made when I talked about extreme devotion (though I think it's hard to implement in games like the ME IP, DAO and DAI. The type of story of DA2, I think, would've been better suited to your ideas). I was referring to doing extreme things if your loved one asked you to.

I know exactly what you meant before, you weren't misunderstood.
Yes, da2 could have a relationship like that, but didn't.

[KainD]

They can be forced, I guess.

Well if you put a nude woman next to my same sex act, perhaps. Otherwise it's not like I have control over my body to that extent, same as I cant stop breathing.

[The Elder King]

I know exactly what you meant before, you weren't misunderstood.
Yes, da2 could have a relationship like that, but didn't.

They even created a LI who would've been perfect for the role. Isabela.

[KainD]

No choice, your genes are too valued, so your little friend better listen to the demand of the Qun...
Sad as that is, no one has a choice in a breeding program

Yeah but wouldn't a gay male by an impotent in a breeding program? A lesbian can still get pregnant with a straight male, vice verse, not sure the act could happen.

[KainD]

They even created a LI who would've been perfect for the role. Isabela.

But she wasn't that type of person though.

[Chari]

Yeah but wouldn't a gay male by an impotent in a breeding program? A lesbian can still get pregnant with a straight male, vice verse, not sure the act could happen.

Good question... I guess they have a way, but maybe lots and lots of "reeducation" is usef

[The Elder King]

But she wasn't that type of person though.

I was mostly talking about a romance path where you can choose your LI over your duty. You're right on her not begin the type of person who would do anything for her loved ones (though she does return back, despite the risks for her life both by Castillon, the qunari and possibly Kirkwallers, if we has enough affection for Hawke).

[KainD]

I was mostly talking about a romance path where you can choose your LI over your duty.

Hawke didn't really have any duty, kinda.

[EmperorSahlertz]

No choice, your genes are too valued, so your little friend better listen to the demand of the Qun...
Sad as that is, no one has a choice in a breeding program

But the Qunari do not connect sex with romance, so why would a gay man feel anything wrong for having to participate in the breeding program? He would do it for his people, not "just to get laid".

[Chari]

But the Qunari do not connect sex with romance, so why would a gay man feel anything wrong for having to participate in the breeding program? He would do it for his people, not "just to get laid".

We were talking about gay people not wanting to do woohoo with the opposite sex. Or even simply not able (turn off for men)

[Shark17676]

It was not confirmed they were a couple. What David Gaider actually said:

 

So when it comes up outside of the player's personal experience, it's going to be either vague or implied (such as Wade & Herren, Branka & Hespith or the Viscount's son).

 

Vague?  Implied?  Heh, I always thought the game couldn't have been more blatant about Branka & Hespith's relationship. 

[DRTJR]

I actually doubt Qunari have sex it the sence to people making whoopie sense. They probibly have a proses to extract the semen and make sure it enpregnates the "mother." I doubt the push two Qunari in a room and tell them to have at it.

[KainD]

But the Qunari do not connect sex with romance, so why would a gay man feel anything wrong for having to participate in the breeding program? He would do it for his people, not "just to get laid".

But how can he do it if the body doesn't function that way?

[Chari]

I actually doubt Qunari have sex it the sence to people making whoopie sense. They probibly have a proses to extract the semen and make sure it enpregnates the "mother." I doubt the push two Qunari in a room and tell them to have at it.

They push them in a room, observe and give advice
Not sure if hilarious or creepy

[Chari]

But how can he do it if the body doesn't function that way?

Maybe some potions, drugs etc?

[KainD]

They probibly have a proses to extract the semen and make sure it enpregnates the "mother.".

How?

[KainD]

Maybe some potions, drugs etc?

Do we have an analogue of that irl? I want some, it would broaden my potential partner choice by 50%. Lol

[Chari]

Do we have an analogue of that irl? I want some, it would broaden my potential partner choice by 50%. Lol

Viagra and such stuff?

[KainD]

Viagra and such stuff?

Viagra doesn't help one to ejaculate, only to get it up, you can rub it all you want, but pure physical stimulation isn't enough, you have to have a mental image in front of you or in your mind. Or atleast that's my experience.

[daveliam]

Viagra doesn't help one to ejaculate, only to get it up, you can rub it all you want, but pure physical stimulation isn't enough, you have to have a mental image in front of you or in your mind. Or atleast that's my experience.

 

No, ejaculation is a physiological response that can be triggered by physical stimulation, regardless of who is providing that stimulation.  A gay qunari man could reproduce.  Gay men have been reproducing with women for generations (think of the nobility, who also have pressure of "lineage" production).  It's possible.  It might not be preferable, but it's possible. 

[ElitePinecone]

I don't thnk develoopers ever actually confirmed anything regarding Saemus and Ashaad, but the dialogue in the quest heavily implies such a relationship. Take from that what you will. Personally I have always just pictured it that Saemus was in love with Ashaad, but Ashaad wasn't in Saemus, but he was being friendly towards another person "worthy of his time".

 

David mentioned it once in an interview as an example of same-sex content in their games. I believe the questioner had asked about presentations of same-sex couples outside of the party (as in, "just in the world") and he mentioned that they put in a subtle relationship between Seamus and that qunari. 

 

Also, the Wiki page says other characters commented on it.