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Can you imagine the collective screams of joy if renegade Shepard had the option to just walk around in Liara's cabin and knock stuff over for the hell of it.

 

Liara: Shepard! What are you doing? I have work to do!

 

Shepard: So do I! [knocks over intel console]

 

Liara: Goddess! Perhaps I should have taken that offer to serve aboard Hackett's ship instead.

 

Shepard: What's that? [energy drains Glyph] tralala-lala! [exits]

 

Liara: -_-'

 

THAT SCENE. I WANT TO PLAY IT. RIGHT NOW.



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Thats exactly what i did.But i like talking to her so i can bring her hopes down and be a jerk its funny.omg when i rejected that ending gift from her i was laughing so hard of how downed she looked.When your renegade she says she dosent agree with your decision but respects them okay so that means if you sabotage the cure she's okay with it, extinct the geth or qurins she's okay with that wtf she's such a follower and can't be on her own,that music was such a Li type she loves shepard no matter what and F that she's a freak

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Can you imagine the collective screams of joy if renegade Shepard had the option to just walk around in Liara's cabin and knock stuff over for the hell of it.
 
Liara: Shepard! What are you doing? I have work to do!
 
Shepard: So do I! [knocks over intel console]
 
Liara: Goddess! Perhaps I should have taken that offer to serve aboard Hackett's ship instead.
 
Shepard: What's that? [energy drains Glyph] tralala-lala! [exits]
 
Liara: -_-'



Make something like that for Tali and I would be happy.

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Thats exactly what i did.But i like talking to her so i can  bring her   hopes  down and be a jerk  its funny.omg when i rejected that ending gift from her i was laughing so hard of how downed she looked.When your renegade she says she dosent agree with your decision but respects them okay so that means if you sabotage the cure she's okay with it, extinct the geth or qurins she's okay with that wtf she's such a follower and can't be on her own,that music was such a Li type she loves shepard no matter what and F that she's a freak 

If you really want to bring her hopes down, refuse to bring her onboard the Normandy after defeating the broker by picking the bottom right dialogue.

 

It does puzzle me that people who express a dislike for the character complain about an optional scene that only occurs if you actually go talk to the character they are supposed to hate, and then invite her up.

Very strange.

Not strange at all. My first few playthroughs, I had everyone alive that can be alive and talked with everyone that I could to hear all the different dialogue. After that, I imported all my other  playthroughs and ignored  some characters. On occasion I do talk to Liara, but only a couple of times throughout the game.


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Make something like that for Tali and I would be happy.

 

I imagine Ken, Gabby and Greg would be pretty unhappy if Shepard started screwing around in the engineering deck :P



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I imagine Ken, Gabby and Greg would be pretty unhappy if Shepard started screwing around in the engineering deck :P

*Shepard accidentally blows up the Normandy*

...totally worth it?

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I imagine Ken, Gabby and Greg would be pretty unhappy if Shepard started screwing around in the engineering deck :P

 

Just call all of them away on some human emergency and vent engineering with Tali just twiddling away at the console.  :D



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If you really want to bring her hopes down, refuse to bring her onboard the Normandy after defeating the broker by picking the bottom right dialogue.

 

 

That was so funny she was crying.When she was about to die in the beam she reaches out so i can grab her i would have grab her and at the last second go   sike omg her facial expression is funny as heck.I just want to know why do people romance her 



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*Shepard accidentally blows up the Normandy*

...totally worth it?

 

Tali: What do you need, Shepard?

 

Shepard: Oh, nothing. [presses random button on console]

 

Ken Donnelly: Commander, what'avya done?? I'm gettin' loads of negative feedback from the coolant manifolds!

 

Gabby Daniels: Reactor containment is failing!

 

Engineer Adams: Commander, what the f...[renegade interrupt knock out Adams]

 

Shepard: [continues tapping buttons]

 

EDI: I recommend evacuating the engineering deck.

 

Ken Donnelly: Everybody ou...[plasma vents into deck]


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#35
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It reminds me of the conversation you hear in engineering


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My favorite headcanon ending for ME is that we were too late.

We waited far to long to act about the reapers this cycle. We gave it our best however, and set the stage for future victory by weakening them considerably and the time capsule (amongst others left throughout the galaxy) the next cycle was able to destroy the reapers, not easily, but without destroying their civilizations.

Human civilization fell, along with Asari, Turian, and Salarian (among others) but it is remembered and revered. Our greatest works, individuals, and values were saved for those who come along next. 

And as for Shepard and co? I am a spiritual person. Citadel is the afterlife :) and I'm okay with that.



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It does puzzle me that people who express a dislike for the character complain about an optional scene that only occurs if you actually go talk to the character they are supposed to hate, and then invite her up.

Very strange.

 

For me it's not so much that I hate Liara -- I don't really hate any character except for Allers and Kai Leng. I just want more of my ME2 love interests, which apart from Kaidan, are my favorite LIs in the game.



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It does puzzle me that people who express a dislike for the character complain about an optional scene that only occurs if you actually go talk to the character they are supposed to hate, and then invite her up.

Very strange.

Except you can't invite anybody else who wants to come up to your cabin like Traynor or Vega without going through the Time Capsule scene first. There's no option to bypass it (at least as far as I'm aware. I could be wrong).

 

I like the scene, but with the exception of Tali, nobody can come up to your cabin until that scene is played.



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Post-EC the scene with the stargazer and the child doesn't make a lick of sense if Synthesis, Control, or High EMS Destroy was chosen. Post-EC galactic civilization no longer collapses in those endings, so there should be no reason why Shepard would have morphed from a historical figure into a semi-mythical one. History becomes myth and legend when people are unable to preserve their history and instead pass it down word of mouth in campfire stories.


Nah. History becomes legend immediately. Myths and legends exist in spite of historical records, not due to a lack of historical records. Think of how most people in America regard, say, the Second World War. Or, alternatively, how many sports fans remember events that happened only a few years ago - events that they actually saw happen live.

Plus, we're not getting the record of academia with Buzz Aldrin and the kid. We're getting an old man telling a story to a little kid. If you expect anything other than myth and legend from that, I'd be surprised.

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For me it's not so much that I hate Liara -- I don't really hate any character except for Allers and Kai Leng. I just want more of my ME2 love interests, which apart from Kaidan, are my favorite LIs in the game.


Some of the Me2 LI would've been great and same as me apart from Kaiden, Garrus is my second favorite. Compared to Jacob the cheater and Liara. they are miles a head of those two.

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Except you can't invite anybody else who wants to come up to your cabin like Traynor or Vega without going through the Time Capsule scene first. There's no option to bypass it (at least as far as I'm aware. I could be wrong).

 

I like the scene, but with the exception of Tali, nobody can come up to your cabin until that scene is played.

I've had no problem with characters coming up to the cabin without having the capsule scene.

 

If you want to ignore inviting someone up to the cabin, do not highlight the email. Just skip over it. I've done it a few times.



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Some of the Me2 LI would've been great and same as me apart from Kaiden, Garrus is my second favorite. Compared to Jacob the cheater and Liara. they are miles a head of those two.

 

I actually like the Jacob romance, I think it's like (Jack, Kaidan, Miranda, Jacob...) number four on my list; although, a good deal of my appreciation for that romance comes from the mechanical and branching aspects of it. So, when it came to him suddenly cheating on FemShep (and then naming the kid after her?!?!?) I was pretty annoyed.



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I've had no problem with characters coming up to the cabin without having the capsule scene.
 
If you want to ignore inviting someone up to the cabin, do not highlight the email. Just skip over it. I've done it a few times.


How do you not highlight the thing? I'm just wondering about that?,

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How do you not highlight the thing? I'm just wondering about that?,

 

Just move the cursor over the email really fast. For the message to register as read the highlighter has to remain on the text for about half a second.



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How do you not highlight the thing? I'm just wondering about that?,

When you see the email don't stop at it, just scroll to an email you want to read.



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I actually like the Jacob romance, I think it's like (Jack, Kaidan, Miranda, Jacob...) number four on my list; although, a good deal of my appreciation for that romance comes from the mechanical and branching aspects of it. So, when it came to him suddenly cheating on FemShep (and then naming the kid after her?!?!?) I was pretty annoyed.


I agree, I liked the romance just not the way female Shepard talked to him. She sounded so desperate in that scene when she say Jacob kiss me. I mean what the heck? I was annoyed that it was the black dude that cheated they already poorly done in most media and they had to make the token black dude cheat..... Stereotypical, much Bioware just saying.

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When you see the email don't stop at it, just scroll to an email you want to read.


Thanks, I been wanting too know how to do that in ME3...
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Nah. History becomes legend immediately. Myths and legends exist in spite of historical records, not due to a lack of historical records. Think of how most people in America regard, say, the Second World War. Or, alternatively, how many sports fans remember events that happened only a few years ago - events that they actually saw happen live.

Plus, we're not getting the record of academia with Buzz Aldrin and the kid. We're getting an old man telling a story to a little kid. If you expect anything other than myth and legend from that, I'd be surprised.

 

Historical figures and events do occasionally get romanticized. But that's a bit different than what seems to be going on with "the Shepard." The Shepard is more akin to Beowulf or King Arthur than say... the Southern lost cause mythology of Robert E. Lee. He (or she) gets a title that makes the Commander seem to have been more than a mortal man (or woman) with human failings, and the Stargazer states that some of the history surrounding Shepard & the Reaper War has been lost.

 

Of course grandpa stargazer might not be an academic, but 'the Shepard' sounds like a mystic title from some pseudo-religious tale. Its hard to picture that coexisting with a society that was able to preserve its history. 



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Historical figures and events do occasionally get romanticized. But that's a bit different than what seems to be going on with "the Shepard." The Shepard is more akin to Beowulf or King Arthur than say... the Southern lost cause mythology of Robert E. Lee. He (or she) gets a title that makes the Commander seem to have been more than a mortal man (or woman) with human failings, and the Stargazer states that some of the history surrounding Shepard & the Reaper War has been lost.
 
Of course grandpa stargazer might not be an academic, but 'the Shepard' sounds like a mystic title from some pseudo-religious tale. Its hard to picture that coexisting with a society that was able to preserve its history.


I think that you're understating just how Lee was viewed in the South, especially in the decades immediately after the war. "More than a mortal man with human failings" sounds exactly like how Lee was written into books like Pollard's (or, hell, Shelby Foote's). Remember, James Longstreet and John Mosby were ostracized to the point of getting actual death threats for having the temerity to suggest that Lee made mistakes and that the Confederacy was all about slavery. There are still plenty of places in the South where the Lost Cause still survives as a sort of second religion.

But it's not just limited to the fringe loonies, either. Think of Abraham Lincoln, or Sun Zhongshan, or Mohandas Gandhi. The Camelot narrative that grew up around the Kennedy administration. The iron lady narrative that grew up around the Thatcher governments. Lenin in the USSR; Mao in China up to the 1990s (and in some ways, still to this day). As far as I know from a couple of years of teaching history, most people don't want to think about the sausage-making in history. Or, if they don't actively avoid it, they at least don't care. And this goes double for kids. If you talk to a kid about history, nuance is just about the last thing you want to inject into it, and making the entire thing into a morality tale of good and evil makes a great deal of sense. I mean, have you seen Pocahontas or Mulan?

And frankly, shouldn't Shepard be referred to with a mystic title from some pseudoreligious tale? At the end of it all, the Commander was basically the avatar of all organic life, a being who was the necessary and proximate cause of the way the entire war turned out. There is almost literally nobody in the entirety of human history who has had the singular importance that Shepard had. If somebody like that was real, hell, I'd join a religion based on her. And given the way a lot of the events in the games happened - often with very few witnesses, many of whom would have excellent potential reasons to not divulge their information, or to have only had limited perspectives on what was going on - the Stargazer's comment about lost history makes sense, too. History can be lost if the actual records are lost, true. It can also be lost if the people who made the history didn't feel like talking about it.

So yeah, I think that there are plenty of reasons that make the way in which Aldrin's character set his story an eminently believable one.
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This forum continues to amuse me. I find it fascinating that the time capsule scene is so annoying to people. Seriously putting this much effort into hating a bunch of pixels because it wasn't your waifu who did the scene.

 

What would happen if we didn't leave anything, not even an archive of technology for the next cycle? Would they develop along a different path and thus break the cycle?


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