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[Creator Limbs]

I use the smart choke on the Wraith.

Deal with it primitives.

[q5tyhj]

 

Final point is penetration bonuses will only stack if the weapon has innate piercing. 

 

Aha, interesting- didn't know that. Most of the guns I do this with do have innate piercing (e.g. Javelin), but good to know all the same. Otherwise I agree 100%... especially the part about Drill III owning on Glacier. I particularly love the confused way Centurions and Marauders wander and roll around when you're shooting them through a wall from the adjacent room.   Never ceases to amuse me. 

[q5tyhj]

I use the smart choke on the Wraith.

Deal with it primitives.

 

Me two, except for on a couple of melee kits (Kroguard, BatSol)... I mean, why would you NOT want increased range and accuracy? 

[TheShadyEngineer]

Me two, except for on a couple of melee kits (Kroguard, BatSol)... I mean, why would you NOT want increased range and accuracy? 

Because it would be like taking the scope attachment on a sniper rifle.

[Deerber]

If you need a choke on a Wraith, I'd have to suggest a nice big cup of L2Aim

I don't think I need to learn to aim man, thanks

However, given how accuracy works, having a boost of 50% in accuracy means that you can land a perfect headshot 4 times as far (if it works linearly as I think it does). So, unless your aim is so good that it can force the pellets not to spread for you, I'd say that's a pretty damn good thing, uh?

Because it would be like taking the scope attachment on a sniper rifle.

That's just not true and I really hope you know it...

[Creator Limbs]

Because it would be like taking the scope attachment on a sniper rifle.

It's actually nothing like taking the scope attachment on a sniper rifle..what.

[ClydeInTheShell]

This thread needs moar Raider. 

[TheShadyEngineer]

I don't think I need to learn to aim man, thanks

However, given how accuracy works, having a boost of 50% in accuracy means that you can land a perfect headshot 4 times as far (if it works linearly as I think it does). So, unless your aim is so good that it can force the pellets not to spread for you, I'd say that's a pretty damn good thing, uh?
 

50% accuracy boost means different things for different guns. For a Claymore or a Raider, sure, if I can reduce their truck-like spread by 50% then I'm all for it. The Wraith would get some benefit from a choke but it's pretty darn accurate without it too. At the end of the day it's still a shotgun so I don't expect it to be sniping people from across the map (although I've done so a few times with both the Claymore and Wraith) with it.

 

I would prefer to have extra ammo and not rely on ammo boxes instead of a negligible accuracy boost on an already accurate gun.I guess it comes down to personal preferences and what works for each person.

 

That's just not true and I really hope you know it...

An obvious exaggeration to make a point 

 

It's actually nothing like taking the scope attachment on a sniper rifle..what.

 

I meant that there's no need to take accuracy boosting attachments on guns that are already accurate.

[Creator Limbs]

Shotguns have pellets. Why wouldn't you want to decrease that spread?

[capn233]

Run what you like, but I agree with Deerber, the Wraith's effective range with Smart Choke is much higher than without it.

[q5tyhj]

Because it would be like taking the scope attachment on a sniper rifle.

 

Are you sure we're talking about the same gun? I'm talking about the Wraith. It sounds like you're thinking of something else. 

[Creator Limbs]

The only shotguns that smart choke is pointless on are the projectile shotguns (Graal, GPS, Venom), the Crusader, and the Reegar.

Every other shotgun lands more pellets on an enemy unit with the smart choke therefore maximizing your damage output.

[Kislitsin]

I use smart choke on my wraith. And recently I've been using it on a TSol. Tight spread is good. Tighter is gooder. Tightest is goodest bestest.

OHSkilling things across the map is good. Saying "using SC on a shotgun is like using a scope attachement on a SR" is showing ones incompetence.

 

Oh, I probably need to L2Aim too. Deerber, when will we attend "The Shady-Engineer No-Choke Shotgun Marksmanship School"?

[TheShadyEngineer]

Shotguns have pellets. Why wouldn't you want to decrease that spread?

 

Run what you like, but I agree with Deerber, the Wraith's effective range with Smart Choke is much higher than without it.

Because I don't feel much of a difference b/w an unchoked Wraith and a choked one... I feel like "long range" differs from person to person. I can engage enemies that spawn in the FB Giant control tower from the LZ hallway with good effect. That's pretty much as long a range as I'm going to need with a shotgun.

 

I don't expect it to be landing perfect headshots from across the map in places like FB Rio or FB Hydra. If I wanted to do that, I'd take a different gun.

 

Are you sure we're talking about the same gun? I'm talking about the Wraith. It sounds like you're thinking of something else. 

*sigh* It was an analogy. If you're still confused, refer to my post above.

[TheShadyEngineer]

@Kislitsin: I said it only about the Wraith, not all shotguns. I don't know about L2Aim but you really need to L2Read.

 

Deerber understood that I meant that as a joke, but you seem to be incredibly salty over it. Oh right, for you ME3MP is srs bsns.

[q5tyhj]

*sigh* It was an analogy. If you're still confused, refer to my post above.

RIght- an analogy which only works... if you're talking about something other than the Wraith. For my part, I don't view landing more pellets per hit, particularly at longer range, as redundant. But to each their own. 

[Kislitsin]

@Kislitsin: I said it only about the Wraith, not all shotguns. I don't know about L2Aim but you really need to L2Read.

 

Deerber understood that I meant that as a joke, but you seem to be incredibly salty over it. Oh right, for you ME3MP is srs bsns.

Wraith is a pellet based shotgun. It has a spread. Smartchoke tightens its spread, significantly. Saying SC is of little use on it is moronic.

 

Does Wraith accurate without SC? Yes, it's quite accurate, without it it has a spread of choked claymoar. Does it benefit from further accuracy increase??? Of course it does, why the hell not???

 

No, games are no srs bsns for me, but I prefer to have some meta-knowledge.

[TheShadyEngineer]

Wraith is a pellet based shotgun. It has a spread. Smartchoke tightens its spread, significantly. Saying SC is of little use on it is moronic.

 

I can make my Wraith work without a choke. You think it's moronic? Tell you what, you give me your phone number and I'll drop a call when I give a sh*t.

 

 

 

Does Wraith accurate without SC? Yes, it's quite accurate, without it it has a spread of choked claymoar. Does it benefit from further accuracy increase??? Of course it does, why the hell not???

And a Saber becomes more accurate with a scope. But if I can land headshots without a scope, why would I equip a scope? YES, A CHOKE DOES INCREASE ACCURACY AT RANGE but how much extra range does one really need with a shotgun that's already good at range? "Personal preference" are two words you don't seem to understand.

 

inb4 second wave of confused forumites.

 

 

No, games are no srs bsns for me

[Caineghis2500]

Praise be to The Almighty

[q5tyhj]

I can make my Wraith work without a choke. You think it's moronic? Tell you what, you give me your phone number and I'll drop a call when I give a sh*t.

Saying you "can make it work" without the Smart Choke is different from saying that putting the Smart Choke on it is redundant and unnecessary. Obviously it can work without Smart Choke- if you're a CQC/melee kit, you probably don't need it at all and would be better served with a different mod in that slot. On alot of other kits, its extremely useful as it extends the Wraith's effective range, makes it more accurate overall, and ultimately increases your damage output. 

[Pearl (rip bioware)]

What the shit is happening.

ShadyEngineer, stop being stupid. Yes, the Wraith is already accurate, but unless you're in CQC, the benefits from Smart Choke are obvious.

[Terrapin]

Why ask why?

http://youtu.be/-YlExaL57QI?t=5s

[TheShadyEngineer]

Saying you "can make it work" without the Smart Choke is different from saying that putting the Smart Choke on it is redundant and unnecessary. Obviously it can work without Smart Choke- if you're a CQC/melee kit, you probably don't need it at all and would be better served with a different mod in that slot. On alot of other kits, its extremely useful as it extends the Wraith's effective range, makes it more accurate overall, and ultimately increases your damage output. 

 

Whatever I write on BSN is....Wait for it... My opinion!    I thought that was pretty clear but apparently it isn't. Putting a choke on a Wraith is unnecessary for me (shocking, I know). If people like the Wraith with a SC, good for them. Unlike the Kistlitsin's of BSN who get their panties in a bunch if someone specs a kit differently from them or uses a weapon they don't like, I don't consider my preferences to be 100% correct and undebatable.

[ClydeInTheShell]

Going against BSN grain?!?!?!? How dare you, Shady? 

 

What next, you gonna play the game for fun? 

[TheShadyEngineer]

What the **** is happening.

ShadyEngineer, stop being stupid. Yes, the Wraith is already accurate, but unless you're in CQC, the benefits from Smart Choke are obvious.

Maybe I haven't made myself clear enough.

Is the Wraith accurate without a choke? Yes it is.

Would the Wraith benefit from the additional accuracy given by a Smart Choke (especially at longer ranges)? Absolutely. 

Is the Smart Choke a "must have" attachment on the Wraith like it is on a Claymore or a Raider? No.