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So...having dense bones and superior strength renders one incapable of controlling their nervous system? I find this amusing. A strong body is also capable of excellent control. 

 

Even if it somehow were an issue (a weird one)...what is the Qunari doing when on his/her back while being straddled by any race of your choice, because I'm pretty sure unless he/she decides to punch their partner in the face it shouldn't be a problem? 

No i wasnt implying that. My argument was that you cant make assumptions about qunari by comparing them to humans because their anatomy is significantly different. Nothing about a lack of control



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No i wasnt implying that. My argument was that you cant make assumptions about qunari by comparing them to humans because their anatomy is significantly different. Nothing about a lack of control

 

Is it really significantly different, though?  They have pointed ears and horns.  And they are taller and more muscular.  That's about it.  It's not significantly different.  A sylvan has significantly different anatomy.  A mabari has significantly different anatomy.  But a qunari?  Not really all that different.



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Is it really significantly different, though?  They have pointed ears and horns.  And they are taller and more muscular.  That's about it.  It's not significantly different.  A sylvan has significantly different anatomy.  A mabari has significantly different anatomy.  But a qunari?  Not really all that different.

Yes, considering they have horns, claws, pointed ears, and non human skin tones, thats a significant visual difference. Muscle and bone density are pretty significant when it comes to biology let alone the fact that they have horns (which is enough to make them significantly different. Thats like saying chimps arent significantly different from humans. You're using your own standards and imposing them on what the word actually means



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We have human LIs and we've confirmed that the PC can be qunari. It will happen (if you want it to happen in your game). 



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Yes, considering they have horns, claws, pointed ears, and non human skin tones, thats a significant visual difference. Muscle and bone density are pretty significant when it comes to biology let alone the fact that they have horns (which is enough to make them significantly different. Thats like saying chimps arent significantly different from humans. You're using your own standards and imposing them on what the word actually means

 

Well, to be fair, "significantly" is a qualitative descriptor.  What is significant to you might not be to others.  That's kind of my point.  I don't think that they are significantly different in anatomy given the huge range of options that life offers.  To that end, I would agree that chimps aren't significantly different based on anatomy.  A jelly fish is, though.  Note, I'm not talking in reference to romance.  Just in reference to biology.

 

Regarding their (arguably) "significantly" different anatomy.  I don't see it as anywhere as jarring as the anatomical difference between Shepard and Garrus and Tali and that didn't stop romance from happening.  Just saying.



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So...having dense bones and superior strength renders one incapable of controlling their nervous system? I find this amusing. A strong body is also capable of excellent control. 

 

Even if it somehow were an issue (a weird one)...what is the Qunari doing when on his/her back while being straddled by any race of your choice, because I'm pretty sure unless he/she decides to punch their partner in the face it shouldn't be a problem? 

If this was true, Superman would be considered a villain due to all the damage he'd cause by being unable to control his strength.



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After all the kinky stuff Mass Effect lets you bang, qunari are a pretty mundane race by comparison...

 

"romance is more than banging"

 

And mentally the qunari are essentially 100% human as far as one can tell, just like most other bioware races, so that shouldn't really be an issue either.



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If this was true, Superman would be considered a villain due to all the damage he'd cause by being unable to control his strength.


To be fair the latest Superman flick didn't exactly do his image any favors in this regard.

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Well, to be fair, "significantly" is a qualitative descriptor.  What is significant to you might not be to others.  That's kind of my point.  I don't think that they are significantly different in anatomy given the huge range of options that life offers.  To that end, I would agree that chimps aren't significantly different based on anatomy.  A jelly fish is, though.  Note, I'm not talking in reference to romance.  Just in reference to biology.

 

Regarding their (arguably) "significantly" different anatomy.  I don't see it as anywhere as jarring as the anatomical difference between Shepard and Garrus and Tali and that didn't stop romance from happening.  Just saying.

It doesnt have to be to that extreme to be significant, i'm using it in a general sense, most people would agree if they were to see a giant 7ft tall creature with grey skin, claws, pointed ears, white eyes, and large horns, they would agree that this creature is significantly different from our species. 

 

And back to the point i made earlier, if a creature that averages that height has so many differences from human physiology, you cant just assume that they're no different than a seven foot human. If a human were to grow to that height they wouldnt grow into the same frame, and the fact that they naturally acquire that amount of muscle mass with little work tells me their strength is superhuman. Chimps arent even close to our height yet have three times the strength of humans, imagine the physical capabilities of something this naturally large. Thats why i say it isnt comparable to a human being



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To be fair the latest Superman flick didn't exactly do his image any favors in this regard.

 

That Superman movie was just pure character assassination on every level. 


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It doesnt have to be to that extreme to be significant, i'm using it in a general sense, most people would agree if they were to see a giant 7ft tall creature with grey skin, claws, pointed ears, white eyes, and large horns, they would agree that this creature is significantly different from our species. 

 

And back to the point i made earlier, if a creature that averages that height has so many differences from human physiology, you cant just assume that they're no different than a seven foot human. If a human were to grow to that height they wouldnt grow into the same frame, and the fact that they naturally acquire that amount of muscle mass with little work tells me their strength is superhuman. Chimps arent even close to our height yet have three times the strength of humans, imagine the physical capabilities of something this naturally large. Thats why i say it isnt comparable to a human being

 

Fair enough, but my thought is still "meh, not that different in the grand scheme of things" and certainly not different enough for them to restrict romance given the fantasy-based nature of the game.  If a dwarf and human can mate, so can a qunari and human, in my opinion.



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Fair enough, but my thought is still "meh, not that different in the grand scheme of things" and certainly not different enough for them to restrict romance given the fantasy-based nature of the game.  If a dwarf and human can mate, so can a qunari and human, in my opinion.

A dwarf is stronger than a human though, but regardless I never said otherwise, all i've been trying to say is that you cant make an assumption on a qunari's physical capabilities based on human physical capabilities. I dont see why they couldnt mate. 



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Well... this wasn't the speculation I had in mind exactly. I was just wondering if the devs were inflicting race restrictions - to, you know, build character - not so much if a qunari and human could mate. O.o

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I'm pretty sure this is possible since you can be a qunari yourself.



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Yeah, they're not going to stop you from romancing the humans or elves (probably the majority of romances in the game) just because you want to play a Qunari. I see any references to the size difference maybe getting a mention, but not impeding romance storylines in any real way.



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Didn't Sten say its not possible because Qunari are rough and it would break human/elf/dwarf bones?

I think most people assume he was just saying that to freak out Morrigan.



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I have been wanting a Qunari McAbs romance since DA:O.  I fondly recall the older old forum conversations, far before DA:O was released, and hoping Sten would be bi.  

 

Also the notion that I could put the City Elf wedding dress item on Sten, when they announced anyone could wear anything -- and then later clarified when brought up.  But that's a different story...

 

My hope for a bi/gay Qunari still lives on.  



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Well i dont see why not, cassandra is confirmed as a love interest and i plan to immediately romance her with my first character who is going to be qunari

 
I plan to immediately romance her with my femqunquisitor.

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I have been wanting a Qunari McAbs romance since DA:O.  I fondly recall the older old forum conversations, far before DA:O was released, and hoping Sten would be bi.  

 

Also the notion that I could put the City Elf wedding dress item on Sten, when they announced anyone could wear anything -- and then later clarified when brought up.  But that's a different story...

 

My hope for a bi/gay Qunari still lives on.  

*prayer circle for bi Iron Bull*


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*prayer circle for bi Iron Bull*


Sign me up for that prayer circle immediately. I have a few sacrificial goats we could slaughter if you think that would help things.

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Sign me up for that prayer circle immediately. I have a few sacrificial goats we could slaughter if you think that would help things.

We sacrifice only the purest of nugs for our rituals.



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We sacrifice only the purest of nugs for our rituals.


Oh, okay. That's perfect, actually. I've been meaning to find something useful for Schmooples to do.

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I'm torn. On the one hand, bi Iron Bull would be amazing. On the other, I'm really rooting for DHMG to be the bi romance. And I also want Varric as a romance, and Solas, and we all know Cullen will be romancable. There are too many sexy men in this game.

 

Still, I like the idea of Iron Bull being bi. For some reason I really like the idea of pairing him up with a lithe, pretty boy elf. Cliché, I know, but so hot.



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I'm torn. On the one hand, bi Iron Bull would be amazing. On the other, I'm really rooting for DHMG to be the bi romance. And I also want Varric as a romance, and Solas, and we all know Cullen will be romancable. There are too many sexy men in this game.

 

Still, I like the idea of Iron Bull being bi. For some reason I really like the idea of pairing him up with a lithe, pretty boy elf. Cliché, I know, but so hot.

If only they stuck with the 'everyone is available to anyone' style. 


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If only they stuck with the 'everyone is available to anyone' style. 

Somebody's bitter... :rolleyes: