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[MagicNakor42]

Not really, of course. But the similiarities are great enough that the comparision can be made. I haven't seen any other threads about this sort of comparision (although granted I didn't go past 10 pages or so...this forum moves so quickly!) so I am curious: Do any other fans of B5 see ME as sort of a surrogate B5 RPG?

[RedIntifada]

Sure there are obvious similarities:



Backgrounds:

War Hero - Sheridan

Sole Survivor - Sinclair

Ruthless - Garibaldi (ok a bit more of a stretch but it works particularly for Season 4)



Elder races ie. Reapers with older races like the Asari playing an in between (i.e. oldest of younger races) role like the Minbari.



Of course that whole having Shepard touched by the older races while relevant to B5's Captains in many ways it is closer to Deep Space 9's Emissary/Sisko (which was a plagiarism of Strazinski's work anyway).



Also there are basics like the whole soldier/diplomat in the one person, the role of the council, humanity being fairly new in space, space exploration being dependent on jump gates/mass relays etc.

[JudgeQwerty]

Hmm...



Citadel=B5=United Nations in space

Reapers=Shadows=Evil first race

Protheans=Vorlons=Semi-benevolent ancient race

Turians=Centauri=Militant Imperialists with Roman overtones

Salarians=Unknown

Asari=Minbari=Mystical, longlibved good guy race

Krogan=Narn=Slave race with feirce grudge against Turians/Centauri

Human Alliance=Human Alliance=Alliance of humans

Pissed off biotics=pissed off telepaths



I could probably go on if I had seen B5 sometime in the last 10 years.

[The-Broken-One]

Also the first contact war between taurians and humans is the same as the one between the minbari and humans in B5(cept without the weird spiritual reasons behind the taurians ending the war like the minbari had) not sure the protheans count as a vorlon analogue since they vanished long ago in the ME timeline and so never became as much of a pain in the butt as the vorlons did on B5 lol

[padawanmage]

Interesting comparisons...

[Crackseed]

Comparisons working or not, damn I miss Babylon 5 and need to get my arse moving and buy the damn DVDs already.

[The-Broken-One]

Hopefully mass effect wont get a ****** poor spinoff game like B5 did with hte show crusade

[Funkcase]

Ive never seen Babylon 5.. i want to now.

[GnusmasTHX]

Mass Effect = Every other sci-fi out there.

[vhatever]

Other than babylon 5 = sort of like the citadel, (you could say the same thing about deep space 9) And the shadows = reapers, not much is comparable.





So it's got some evil force and a space station.



The space station and just say "place for the protaganists to hang out" and you have the second most cliched story since "boy meets girl".

[Jimbe2693]

Mass Effect = Mass Effect

Lets compare mass effect to call of duty modern warfare.... they both have guns, they both have humans etc etc

Modifié par Jimbe2693, 23 janvier 2010 - 01:38 .

[eternalnightmare13]

Ugh. What's the deal with everyone trying to compare ME to everything else? Speaking of which is ME the new Wizard of Oz? ZOMG!

[padawanmage]

GnusmasTHX wrote...

Mass Effect = Every other sci-fi out there.

Oh, I gotta disagree!

B5 actually assumed the viewer had at least half a brain, it wasn't episodic, it had an 'arc', the aliens looked alien, the Human starships looked 'believable', and, best of all, hardly ANY technobabble...

...unlike most other sci-fi shows.

[Awesome Helmet]

mass effect reminds me of the flintstones. theres a couple guys, a couple girls, and some weird creatures running around. now that i think about it its almost exactly like the flintstones. er maybe the jetsons. i always get those two shows mixed up.

[Awesome Helmet]

nope, wait a minute. i meant its like the rugrats. mass effect is exactly like the rugrats.

[Awesome Helmet]

or doug. remember the cartoon doug? skeeter, patty mayonaise and roger klotz.



woah. doug is shepard, skeeter is wrex, patty is ashley, and roger is saren.



**** mass effect is a straight rip off of the cartoon doug. what a crock!

[Andorfiend]

Funkcase wrote...

Ive never seen Babylon 5.. i want to now.

You should. It's the best hard sf tv show ever made.

I think the Krogan = Narn parallel is pretty weak, although if Wrex becomes a prophet in ME 2/3 I'll eat my words.

Likewise the Turians with their regimented society and strong sense our group honor are a pretty weak analogue to the scheming, partying, treacherous Centari. Although if we can recuit a Turian Vir Coto I'll joygasm .

Minbari as Asari ... Is not a bad fit. Although you could say the same of Vulcans, or Elves. The 'older, wiser, prettier fey being' archtype is a strong one.

I suppose the Hanar could be a Pak'ma'ra analogue.

There are also the obvious physical parallels between B5 and the citadel itself, although the differences between the B5 tech base and the ME tech base are large the jump space gates are a pretty close parallel to the Mass Relay network, although in B5 even the younger races (like humans) can build ships that don't need the gates they are cost prohibitive except for the occasional exploration vessel.

[JudgeQwerty]

Andorfiend wrote...

I think the Krogan = Narn parallel is pretty weak, although if Wrex becomes a prophet in ME 2/3 I'll eat my words.

Likewise the Turians with their regimented society and strong sense our group honor are a pretty weak analogue to the scheming, partying, treacherous Centari. Although if we can recuit a Turian Vir Coto I'll joygasm .

One of these does actually happen in the game and I'm just using official spoilers...

[Bryy_Miller]

Jimbe2693 wrote...

Mass Effect = Mass Effect

Lets compare mass effect to call of duty modern warfare.... they both have guns, they both have humans etc etc

This thread is for fun. It's not serious.

[The-Broken-One]

the volus are closer to centuri really, then again the volus are a really close match the ferengi in ds9 aswell lol

[JudgeQwerty]

You know, DS9 was designed by the people who refused to make B5 before J. Michael Stracynsci pitched his idea to someone else...

[The-Broken-One]

yeh but mainly after jms refused to tweak his concept to fit the star trek mold, he admitted as much in a book he wrote years ago they basically wanted the space station idea but not the rest so he toom his idea to warner bros who let him make a pilot then the word came down that ds9 was being made and was similar in concept but through the star trek mold.

tbh though both shows were awesome in there own ways.

[JudgeQwerty]

Oh, totally. It's the probably the best Star trek series of them all, aside from maybe The Next generation once Roddenberry died.

[padawanmage]

The-Broken-One wrote...

yeh but mainly after jms refused to tweak his concept to fit the star trek mold, he admitted as much in a book he wrote years ago they basically wanted the space station idea but not the rest so he toom his idea to warner bros who let him make a pilot then the word came down that ds9 was being made and was similar in concept but through the star trek mold.
tbh though both shows were awesome in there own ways.

Thank God he broke the mold!  Sad that everything has to 'fit' the ST mold...

[The-Broken-One]

hopefully now the new trek has reset the status quo we'll eventually get to see how it effects the next gen and ds9 stuff even if only in novels(my guess is the federation/cardassian war may have played out differently and ds9 may not exist as it did also the dominion may have invaded earlier or been invaded themselves) hopefully they will get good writers to tell those tales...maybe even jms since he's moved into prose fulltime these days.