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OK, now that we have our 'Last Supper' table shot of the Inquisitor and his groupies, and we have a few confirmations as far as romance goes, I wanted to ask other folks what they think the companion romance/bromance options will be in Inquisition. Not what they SHOULD be, but what they WILL be.

 

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We've got 12 people of various backgrounds, with 9 of them being companions and 3 more akin to logistical supervisors. The prevailing theory is that Cullen, Leliana and 'Scribbles' are the non-companions, since they have no(obvious) weapons out in the group shot. We know that 2 chars are romances(Cullen and Cassandra), and that there will be set orientations for different characters. We know that no previous LIs will be LIs in DA:I(Although I think if we run into an unromanced Isabella and/or Zevran, anything can happen ;) ) Other that that, we're in the dark. But rather than just a plain discussion on that merits of 'playersexuality' versus set orientations like in the other romance thread, I was wondering if anyone else is up for pure, uninformed, semi-baseless specualtion on what the different romances will be.

 

My semi-baseless guesses are as follows(going from left to right in the group shot):

1. Cullen- Confirmed LI. Strikes me as a strictly heterosexual romance. Any race, I think. Certainly will be interested in ladies, given his attraction to FAmell in DA:O. Not bromance material, IMO.

2. Vivienne- Personally, she doesn't strike me as romancable. Very ambitious and powerful, I don't think she'd spend any time on that kind of thing. Seems like she's a career woman focused on her job, not romance. Will be happy to be proven wrong on this, though. Seems like she'd be pretty cold, as far as freindship goes.

3. Varric- Given his lines in DA2 about 'not being into humans' and wanting some 'pretty dwarf serving girls' around, my guess is he's a dwarf-only LI, probably for both genders. Given DA2 though, he is the go-to bromance.

4. Unconfirmed Cole from Dragon Age: Asunder- If it is Cole, I don't think Bioware would make him a LI. Cole is childlike in his mentality, sometimes. It would feel pretty creepy to me, anyway. Bromance-wise, he's very devoted to pleasing Rhys in Asunder. He changes his behavior because his friend disapproves. I think he'll be a really sweet kind of friendship. One with murder knives. And stabbing.

5 Solas- My guess is Solas is a non-romance, but I'm really unsure on this regard. Other than that he is an expert on the fade, we know so little about his personality. I'm probably biased because I keep thinking about Mordin Solus from Mass Effect 2-3. I mean, a thin, bald academic non-human who specializes in a particular area of study that the protagonist requires knowledge of? Put in the name, and it's just too many similarities. No idea what kind of friendship arc he might have.

6 Cassandra- Confirmed romance, certainly for male Inquisitors, given her dialogue with Varric about a male Hawke in Act II of DA2. Jury is out on whether she will be bisexual, however, and I don't think she will be. She will certainly be a loyal friend for the right inquisitor, once you get past the whole holding a sword to your throat 'you are the only threat I see' thing.

7 Default Male Inquisitor- Unconfirmed romance. Likely with non-FadeMarked hand.

8 Iron Bull- Hard-drinking mercenary Tal-Vashoth? Can't see him not being a romance with Qunari Inquisitors, but I don't see him branching out. Sten's whole dialogue with Morrigan on a Qunari mating with a non-Qunari is pretty scary, though it is certainly possible the he was just ****ting her. He'll be an awsome drinking buddy for any inquisitor. Unless he's a mean/sad drunk. Please, Bioware, make him a funny one.

9. Moustache dude a.k.a. Dorian Pavus(Unconfirmed)- From what we 'know' he's a brazen, cunning, exiled Magister on a crusade agaisnt the corruption of his home country. How can he NOT be a romance? No info on orientation, but he strikes me as an 'anything goes' LI. Any gender, any race. No idea what kind of friend he'll make, though. Might be the obligitory crazy mage of the party, which is always great for a mischeivious PC.

10. Leliana- Previous LI, so a solid no on the romance. Hope she has a great friendship arc, though. She'll have gone through a few changes since DA:O and DA2, but I hope she's still got the sweetness to her character that made her so awsome as a LI in the first game.

11. Blonde Elf-girl a.k.a. Sera(Unconfirmed)- Accoring to the old leaks, she's an underworld character who is mischievious, thieving and generally likes mayhem. Definately a LI, guessing for all races and genders. Of course, she might be an elf-only kind of girl. Or, if Bioware wanted to cause many hetero-tears(myself included), they could make her a ladies-girl. Don't think they'll go that way, though. She'll  be a fun friend to have around the party, I think. The crazy little sister of every Inquisitor. Basically Tali 2.0, but with less innocence and more stealing.

12. Scribe-girl a.k.a. 'Scribbles'- We know nothing about her other than her appearence, so...I'm gonna go with a straight-up female-only LI. Course, this might make her too smiliar to Samantha Traynor from Mass Effect 3. But as long as they don't unclude another over-the-top shower sequence, I'm willing to let it slide.

13. Bearded Grey Warden a.k.a. 'Feathers'- Again, other than his appearance, there's little to go on. He might will not be a romance, given his Grey Warden origins, you know, not wanting to rob the cradle. Course, Anders and Alistair were Grey Wardens, so it hasn't stopped Bioware before. I do think it would be a great opprotunity for a gay character amoung the males, though. He's the only character who seems strong enough to equal a male Qunari Inquisitor besides the Iron Bull anyway. Friendship-wise, he looks like he's got a sense of humour, given the concept art showing him letting out a big, hearty laugh.

 

So if my guesses turn out to be true, there will be:

8 romanceable characters(6 of them party members)

2 Exclusively heterosexual(Cullen and Cass)

2 Exclusively homosexual(Scribbles and Feathers)

2 Race-specific(Varric and Iron Bull)

2 Any-race, Any-gender(Sera and Dorian)

These guesses would mean there are anywhere from 4-5 romances in every playthrough. Either gender gets 4 and Qunari and Dwarf of either gender would get 5.

 

Thoughts? This is not a thread on what SHOULD be the case, but rather what we think the actual game will end up having. No need for endless debate on how Bioware should approach romance, but rather meaningless specualtion on how they will do it for this game, as a way to tide us over until October 7th.


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I'd say Solas is very likely a LI he's the only male elf after all, same reason Sera will be too. As for others yeah I'd probs say Cass and Dorian and Scribbles are likely. I'd love for Varric and IB to be race specific LI's but that's a lot of lovin'

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Just as a wild stab:

For straight men:

Cassandra
Sera

For straight women:

Cullen
Dorian

For gay men:

Dorian
Solas

For lesbians:

Sera
Scribbles

I'm not really sure of anything other than Cullen and Cass being available to the opposite sex. Dorian is pure projection on my part (really want to romance him) and could easily swap places with Solas. I doubt there will be race restrictions.
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If everyone is a romance:

 

Heterosexual(Iron Bull, Varric,Cullen and Cass)

Homosexual(Vivienne & Dorian)

Bi-Sexual(Bearded Warden,Scribe, Sera & Solas)

 

If not then:

 

 

Heterosexual(Cullen and Cass)

Homosexual(Vivienne & Dorian)

Bi-Sexual(Scribe, Sera & Solas)


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Personally, I'm really hoping the guesses on Scribbles being for fem!quisitors are wrong. I don't want the sole lesbian on the team being relegated to npc advisor/assistant once again, and unless she has some fiery personality underneath that mousy job it would remind me too much of Traynor.
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I think it'll either be:

 

Heterosexual - Cassandra/Solas

Homosexual - Sera/Dorian

Bisexual - Scribbles/Cullen

 

Or:

 

Heterosexual - Cassandra/Cullen

Homosexual - Scribbles/Dorian

Bisexual - Sera/Solas

 

Basically, I think either the NPCs or the elves will be bisexual.


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I don't expect more than 6 LIs. I think they said something about not using more resources for romances so if there were 8, they would be spread quite thin. As much as I like having all that choice, I'd rather have less LIs with better romance arcs.

 

My guesses: Cullen, Cass, DHMG, Solas, Sera, Scribbles (just to even out the NPC romances)

 

As for orientations, I'm really not certain. I'm not sure they'd make Cassandra only straight but Cullen might be. If Cullen is, I think Scribbles might be straight too. I think the elves might be bisexual so everybody has a non-human choice and because of DHMG's thread I now only see him as gay. I guess Cass is the confirmed one I'm on the fence about.

 

As much as I like Varric, him being a LI would be a VERY shocking (though pleasant) surprise. I think he's bro4lyfe only. Vivienne I can't picture being a LI based on what we know about her personality. Iron Bull is going to be a complete bromance, I expect. Cole isn't even in the running.


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I think it will be:

 

Cullen/Cass (straight), Sera/Solas (bi, because elves), Dorian/Scribbles (gay)

 

or:

 

Cullen/Sera (straight), Cass/Solas (bi), Dorian/Scribbles (gay)

 

I just have this feeling about both of the npc's being the stricter romance options (1 gay and 1 straight, which leaves 1 gay, 1 straight and 2 bi for party members)


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 Solas does not strike me as an option for LI at all.

 

Varric as femdwarf-only would be interesting.



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I think we will have 6 LI, and both NPC are going to be bisexual coz maybe some companions can leave the party and that way your character can have two options regardless. So... my guess

 

Cullen - bi

Scribe - bi

Solas- Hetero

Cassandra - Hetero

"Sera" - lesbian

"Dorian"- gay

 

...what I really want

 

Cassandra- Bi

"Sera" - whatever....

Vivienne - lesbian /Bi

Cullen- whatever...

Varric- Bi

Iron bull -hetero

My Hawke (...was sooo hot)- in my bed

:D


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I'm not so sure about the need for a male and female elf li in every game...i for one would be fine if Solas was not an li option at all, especially if he may be taking the spot for the straight option (my femInqis is not attracted to weird looking bald elves). I also don't think every female companion should be an li option, that's a bit weird.

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Heterosexual Female: Cassandra

Bisexual Female: Sera

Bisexual Female: Scribbles

Homosexual Female: Vivienne

 

Heterosexual Male: Solas

Bisexual Male: DHMG

Bisexual Male: Cullen

Homosexual Man: Grey Warden

 

Be so much easier if they did the 'every LI is available to anyone' style.


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I think it'll either be:

Heterosexual - Cassandra/Solas
Homosexual - Sera/Dorian
Bisexual - Scribbles/Cullen

Or:

Heterosexual - Cassandra/Cullen
Homosexual - Scribbles/Dorian
Bisexual - Sera/Solas

Basically, I think either the NPCs or the elves will be bisexual.


I think it will be:

Cullen/Cass (straight), Sera/Solas (bi, because elves), Dorian/Scribbles (gay)

or:

Cullen/Sera (straight), Cass/Solas (bi), Dorian/Scribbles (gay)

I just have this feeling about both of the npc's being the stricter romance options (1 gay and 1 straight, which leaves 1 gay, 1 straight and 2 bi for party members)


These.

David Gaider wrote about romances on his blog and expressed an interest in making sure everyone had options but not necessarily in making them equal .
There are going to be unhappy players, and I personally am unhappy that both NPC LIs could be for female players... but BioWare doesn't make the distinction between follower/non-follower romances the way we do. :(
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I'm not so sure about the need for a male and female elf li in every game...i for one would be fine if Solas was not an li option at all, especially if he may be taking the spot for the straight option (my femInqis is not attracted to weird looking bald elves).

 

Without any real information about the character or their personality, how can you know? :huh:

 

I guess I should edit to add that I hope characters can have some damn good friendships even if not a romance option. Kind of like how Garrus was a total bro to my Shepard, and even though a romance was possible they'd never cross that line. He was just awesome all his own.


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Without any real information about the character or their personality, how can you know? :huh:


That's based only on superficial physical attraction since I'm just speculating right now.

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Everyone is tossing in cullen and Scribbles being LI exclusive, I cant imagine both fem! Inquisitor romances being non companions.

I think there will be 6 romances that are companions and then 2 non companion bi romances. That way everyone has 2 choices of companions but a non companion adds an extra choice
So...
Cullen: Bisexual NPC companion. The idea he is only straight surprises me as his only romantic crush was only that a crush. He does not seem straight or gay, and I think bisexual works well being a non companion.

Vivienne: lesbian. She has been made to appeal more to women then men, and as a lesbian she seems to fit the usual hyper femininity when lesbians are included with a bunch of sexualities.

Varric: most of the guys are hard to read because of the number. I am thinking non romanceable, but who knows we may be wrong. If he was romanceable, most likely straight as he had a lot to say about women but really it is very nebulous and it is a guess.

Cole- confirmed as non romanceable. If he isnt Cole then... No clue but pretty sure is cole and unavailable for good reason.

Solas: I dont believe Solas is romanceable. So far we know little about him, if he was, I think he would be gay. But that is a shot in the dark. Personally as the OP said, he seems the kind who is a support character, like Mordin. I dont think he will be anything like Mordin(for one thing he is so grim) but the same role seems likely.

Cassandra: Important to the plot, has appealed to men and women across the board and partly made to be so, her content almost seems purposely vague in regards to her sexuality,like Cullen, and is very minor. I am nearly positive she is Bisexual. I would be shocked if she wasnt.

Iron Bull: is a popular character, but the way the devs sometimes get annoyed, I am starting to believe he is non romanceable. I think that will annoy a lot of people when it does hit the fan. But the more I see him, the more I am leaning towards non romanceable.

Dorian: this is where it gets confusing for me. Dorian is no doubt romanceable. I mean he is the only pretty boy in the group. In my opinion he is competing for Solas, Varric, and grey warden for any set sexuality. Bi, straight, gay, he is romanceable, but who knows. I am thinking Bisexual because he seems to appeal to a large group. Who knows.

Sera: Straight, not only does she seem like she appeals more to men from what we have seen, which is admittedly little, but I am nearly positive about Vivienne and Cassandra, which leaves Sera as Straight. This does seem the best all around, as most women I have seen seem ambivalent about her, while guys seem the most attracted.

Scribbles: Bisexual Li non companion, really to match Cullen, he is a bi Li it makes sense for her to be as well.

And finally Bearded Warden: who I really think is an LI. Is he gay? Straight? bi? If Varric is straight, and Dorian Bi, thenGrey Warden is gay, if Varric is straight and Dorian gay, then GW is Bi, round and round it goes, if you add Solus even more confusing. The guys are really non standard this time so hard to nail down. Its nice they are making non standard LIs, but prediction becomes harder.
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These.
David Gaider wrote about romances on his blog and expressed an interest in making sure everyone had options but not necessarily in making them equal .
There are going to be unhappy players, and I personally am unhappy that both NPC LIs could be for female players... but BioWare doesn't make the distinction between follower/non-follower romances the way we do. :(


Recently no, but I scoured some older posts, and he has repeatedly said that he would prefer everyone get a chance with all bi cast, unless the ability to "make it evenly as possible" was available.

The options were... All Bi OR more equal representation across the board. He has said many times "playersexuality" is the only option other than making sexualities as even as possible. The conclusion that isnt too far to make is while it may not be even precisely, that is certainly a goal of the new system?

Eh, I hope.


But anyway, yeah, really really confused when it comes to Dorian/Solas/Varric/Grey Warden/ Iron Bull

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Cullen - Straight Romance

Sera - Straight Romance

Dorian - Bi Romance

Cassandra - Bi Romance

Grey Warden or Solas - Gay Romance

Vivienne or Scribbles - Lesbian Romance

 

Unless Sera is a little sister character, in which case between Scribbles and Vivienne one will be gay and the other will be straight.

 

My reasoning is this: Cullen will probably be straight because we know he won't be gay exclusive. That means that a more flamboyant option for the bi love interest and a more masculine one for the gay romance so that both straight women and gay men have different types to choose from. Solas and the Grey Warden seem equally unlikely to me, due to perceived old age and Solas feeling more like he'll have the mysterious, asexual friend dynamic. Either way would be an interesting way to play this. Cassandra has a strong base amongst both men and women, so she's probably bi. I gave my reasoning behind Scribbles and Vivienne above. They're both very feminine, which is how Bioware seems to like it's lesbians, so I'm thinking Sera won't be the gay option. Unless they want to mess with the formula and surprise us, you never know.

 

As much as I love Varric and Iron Bull and want them for love interests, I think they're less likely than the others, when looked at objectively. Cullen already fills the straight LI spot, in my mind, and Varric always seemed straight to me, so we know which of the two has been confirmed between them. Iron Bull is being presented as the Wrex/Sagacious Zu/Ogren friend type character. As much as I'd love that sort of dynamic in a romantic context, it probably won't happen. I hold out hope for the both of them, though! Varric enjoys not inconsiderable amounts of love from the female fanbase, and Iron Bull could easily make a great bad boy with a heart of gold romance.

 

To be honest, I don't see Cullen as bi, but maybe I'm wrong about all of the male LIs. Something about having the only straight romance be an npc doesn't seem likely to me.

 

Also, the only one I see as a definite romance (besides the confirmed) is 'Dorian' / DHMG. He's too pretty to not be a LI. I may be biased, though. Out of all the potential LIs he's the only one I really, really want to romance. All the other boys are equally tempting to me. 

 

I'm starting to confuse myself now, so I'm going to leave my speculations at that.


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The prospect of not being able to wrestle with the Grey Warden disgusts me.

 

Baldur's Gate EE > DA Inquisition semi-confirmed.



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Knowing BioWare and their past romances and reasoning for said romances and archetypes, I'll go out on a limb and make some guesses.  

 

Cullen - heterosexual

Cassandra - heterosexual

 

Scribbles - bisexual

Solas - bisexual

 

Dramatic Mustache Man - Gay

Sera - Lesbian

 

Though I can see Solas and DMHG swapping places, it's iffy.  

 

What I'd rather have?  Iron Bull (not necessarily Iron Bull due to personality, but a Qunari in general) instead of Solas.    



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I'll take a guess

Bi romance Cullen/Sera

Straight romance Cassandra/Solas

Homosexual romance Vivienne/DHMG



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I'm sure Varric will be back for some bromancing and flirting.  

 

I think Vivienne will make a good sis, too.  A sis with the power to fry people with her brain should they step out of line... sounds like the ultimate wingwoman to me.  



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Cullen and Cass strike me as hetero, mostly because of their involvement in the other games. Also they are the first two to be announced and in reality(that's the world we live in, if you didn't know) straights are more important then gays/bis. Not that I particularly agree with that.

 

The other 2 female ones I'm guessing are Sera and Scribbles simply because Vivienne strikes me as too much of a ****** to be a Li at all. Though someone did make a good case for Viv to be gay... If that's the case then I'd hope Sera is the other one, she seems miles more interesting then scribbles... If it is Sera and scribbles, I really have no idea who would be gay/bi, as we have basically no info on them aside from appearances.

 

The other 2 males, I'm assuming, are Solas and Dorian. I don't see iron bull being a romance for varies reasons(some of which are not public appropriate). Varric likely wont be one either, with Bianca and all. As for which one will be gay/bi, again, I have no clue. There's not enough information to really judge that.

 

As for the bromance... Varric obviously.


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So if my guesses turn out to be true, there will be:

8 romanceable characters(6 of them party members)

2 Exclusively heterosexual(Cullen and Cass)

2 Exclusively homosexual(Scribbles and Feathers)

2 Race-specific(Varric and Iron Bull)

2 Any-sex, Any-gender(Sera and Dorian)

These guesses would mean there are anywhere from 4-5 romances in every playthrough. Either gender gets 4 and Qunari and Dwarf of either gender would get 5.

I pretty much agree with OP, but I doubt we'll get anything race-specific. As for Varric, I'm pretty sure he'll be a non-LI. Hawke had no chance after six years, I wouldn't expect the Inquisitor to do much better. (Then again, NOBODY EXPECTS THE- *shot*


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Maker willing that I'm right....

Cassandra- Straight
Sera- Bi
Scribble- Gay
Vivienne- [laughs uncontrollably]

Cullen- Straight
Solas- Bi
Dorian- Gay
Cole- [sneezes]
Grey Warden- [hands Cole a tissue]
Iron Bull- [grins]
Varric- [polishes Bianca]

Now...here are my reasons

I'am alittle unsure about Cassandra's orientation mostly because of the Arishok battle. She saids "That is so...romantic." to both a male Hawke and a lady Hawke. So who knows if she'll end up being bi instead of straight :3 I'm rooting for you Cassandra lovers of both genders

I know what you guys are gonna say about Cullen.."Look at anders, he expressed liking females in Awakening but ended up Bi in DA2." This is because of his new writer Jennifer, I'm thinking that before she left Bioware that she finished Cullen's romance...sooo...I'm also unsure about Cullen's orientation xD I'm rooting for you guys!

Sera will be Bi because I think they want players of either gender to be able to have a female elf as a choice. (don't even give me that excuse of only romancing Zevran in orgins, it's because he was the only elf in the party for crying out loud

Vivienne is married to being a powerful woman, she'll be like a strong sis to a female Inquisitor, or a tough sis to the male Inquisitor

Scribble might be the gay choice because she strikes me as this option. One NPC who is straight, the other the exact opposite.

I believe Dorian will be gay because of him coming from Tevienter. Now...uh, xD yeeeah. I heard some stories about that place. Maybe the females there turned him off. who knows! but I'm positive he just might be the gay option.

Solas, I swear he is'nt what any of us are thinking he is XD the greatest mystery of a person out of all our companions. I believe he'll be the male elf choice for us. This way each gender have the human choice, and the elf choice.

Grey Warden will be our Duncan/ father figure. possibly a Samara in Inquisition where they'll let you flirt with him.

Iron Bull...who knows, he might have interest in a lady qunari Inquisitor. Or he might be like Samara..again, letting you flirt with him but that's probably it. He is a party guy afterall  :lol: 

Cole, hmm..diffidently a friendship person. He doesn't know love like we do, he's just a spirit inside of a human's body with their memories.

Varric, I have no idea how they're gonna go about this XD with a lady dwarf maybe something will come out? Nothing romance driven because he really and will always love Bianca. The whole thing reminds me of this story about an artist who never married or dated another woman again because of his fallen wife. So in a way, Varric is like Zevran whose warden did the ultimate sacrifice ending <:

This is assuming they'll even do 2/2/2..