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[DemiserofD]

You'd have to edit their AI to make things fair. IE, make nemeses auto-target abombs and try to headshot them if possible.

 

Because honestly, the biggest weakness they'd have is that the collectors can afford to throw a few of them at the enemy if a single possessed one gets through. They'd lose maybe 30 wave budget to the enemy's 200-300.

 

Furthermore, if Phantoms can sync krosents, they should totally be able to sync brutes and scions.

 

 

So we have the phantoms oneshotting the scions, the nemesises headshotting the abombs, and the Atlases dueling with Praetorians Avatar-style, that just leaves two dragoons to take on two collector captains. I dont even have to watch to see how that one will turn out.

 

Cerberus wins, no question.

[iOnlySignIn]

Assuming that like player characters, the following AI abilities are stopped by Seeker Swarms:

 

- Phantom Palm Blaster

- Phantom Cloak

- Dragoon Smash

- Engineer Turret

- Banshee Warp

- Banshee Charge

- Marauder Marksman

- Geth Prime Turret & Drone

- Geth Prime Siege Pulse

- Geth Pyro Flamer

- Geth Hunter Cloak

 

^ Yeah, I think Collectors will pretty much annihilate the other 3 factions.

 

As for the other 3 factions among themselves, it should be assumed that Geth Prime Siege Pulse can only stagger humanoid enemies. Hence

 

Reapers > Geth > Cerberus

[iOnlySignIn]

 

Furthermore, if Phantoms can sync krosents, they should totally be able to sync brutes and scions.

 

A Scion is 3 Human Husks, a Brute is at least 1 Turian + 1 Krogan.

 

So a Phantom would need 3 Sync Kills to kill a Scion, but by the time she goes around to do the 2nd she's already smashed by the Scion. Same story with a Brute.

[Dunvi]

Just based on how the code is written, I don't think the collector swarms would lock out other enemy powers, though I could be wrong.

 

I wonder if this is possible with the console commands... or if they've locked out any spawn-enemy command... hmmm...

[coldflame]

Wouldn't it be fun if Bioware made a "spectator only" battle mode that allowed us to just sit back and watch two factions kill each other off?

 

I would love to see Cerberus fighting the Reaper and/or Collector* forces.

 

I would also like to see the Geth doing battle against the REAL enemy; the Reaper (with certain Collector* units thrown in) forces.

 

What do you people think?

 

*There are some who would say that the Collectors all died with the Collector base, and I am inclined to agree; but certain units like the Abominations, Scions, and the Praetorians were all created using our people (humans, duh), were they not?

 

P.S. One reason I made this topic was because watching Cerberus fighting the Reapers was something we were deprived of (never got to actually see it) during the Story.

Bioware could've done it for ME3 mp but the consoles held us back...

[Sinapus]

Edit: Sh*t.....I wanna see 2 phantoms duke it out. No swords, no palm blasters...awww yeah 

 

Jack O'Neill: So, now what?

Teal'c: I have read of a place where humans do battle in a ring of Jell-O.

Jack O'Neill: Call Daniel.

[wufpup76]

I think Collectors win, but I wouldn't count out the Cerbs ... 

 

Geth stunlock vs. Cerb turrets ... hmmm

[HusarX]

I would like to watch it, Geth vs Collectors (platinum damage/health stats) on Glacier. Imagine a Hunter is doing the  device objective and then his Rocket Trooper friend nukes him with a possessed A-bomb...

[ALTBOULI]

I would like to watch it, Geth vs Collectors (platinum damage/health stats) on Glacier. Imagine a Hunter is doing the  device objective and then his Rocket Trooper friend nukes him with a possessed A-bomb...

I wonder were you came up with such an idea :|

[HusarX]

I wonder were you came up with such an idea :|

 

I played with this Altbully pug, outscored his Talon GI with my Disciple Volus, so he decided to troll me... LOL, typicall.

[ALTBOULI]

I played with this Altbully pug, outscored his Talon GI with my Disciple Volus, so he decided to troll me... LOL, typicall.

I think its the other way around, trolling me when im trying to do a device, I still have much to teach you on the trolling etiquette

[HusarX]

I think its the other way around, trolling me when im trying to do a device, I still have much to teach you on the trolling etiquette

 

I never troll.

[Nitrocuban]

I'd say sync kills work on enemies we can over cover grab, i.e. only humanoid enemies with health. Not so sure what to do with Phantoms.

Another thing is how hard Geth stunlock would be delivered to the other 2 factions and how/if the AI prioritises targets like Ravagers, nuke-husks and Cerberus turrets.

One Ravager not taken care of could bring down the wave budget very quickly.

[Turian Master Race]

IMO cerberus wins easily assuming engineers can delpoy their turrets. I do not think that the AI is clever ebough to target turret and nemesis instead of atlases and dragoons.

 

Most of the geth units would be slaughtered from a safe distance. Those slow units don't have a chance vs turret farm + nemesis snipers. Primes are the only dangerous enemies but atleses can easily pin down primes.

 

I think it is similar story with reapers. Most of the reaper units would be slaughtered by turret farms + nemesis before they could get close. Bansees can be pinned down by atlases. The only dangerous unit is the ravager but it is large, slow and obvious, unlike sneaky turrets and nemesis.

 

Collectors are the most difficult enemies for a good number of reasons: swarms, scions and floaty crabs. I don't think that swarms can harm turrets. Anyway ground units including abombs can be slaughtered by turrets + nemesis easily. Scions could do some heavy damage but once again scions are large and cerberus has tons of ranged units even draggons and phantoms can do serious damage from a distance. Flotay crabs are the biggest threat. Even though an atlas might pin them down for a while I would put my many on the crab. Butt lasors could do a great collateral damage. Yet the bubble would do nothing vs turrets. Once again I do not think that the collector AI is clever enough to target  turrets and nemesis, so they will wear down flaoty crabs too.

 

All in all, out of all factions only IMO cerberus would function in a fight as it intended: large, agressive meat shiled units distracting the enemy forces (atlas, dragoon) while sneaky units slaughtering them from a safe distance (turrets, phantoms, nemesis).

[N7 Tigger]

Pillow fight?

 

 

Mud wrestling

 

 

 

Wynaut both?

 

Because            >         

[cronshaw]

Geth would get crushed by reapers & collectors as none of their cheese would work on all the bosses and all their units are snycable except for bombers and primes.
Collectors vs reapers would probably just come down to which faction had the bigger health pool, collectors?
Cerberus would get crushed by everybody

[NuclearTech76]

Depends. I mean are we talking three Primes versus two Praetorians. Triple shotting rocket troopers that can fire through walls. Don't count the cheating synthetic bastards out in this contest.

[InventorRaccoon]

Phantoms would just kill everything, assuming everything that grabs are counted as sync kills. They would stab things or shoot them with the palm blaster of annoyingness.

[NuclearTech76]

Do not underestimate the Cerberus turret.

[Dr. Tim Whatley]

Do not underestimate the Cerberus turret.

 

Engineers won't get a chance to put one up if there's a Prime on the field anywhere.

[Credit2team]

collectors would win every time

[ALTBOULI]

Geth Stagger >>>other factions

[TheMyron]

You forgot the Pyros, they can't be grabbed either.

[TheMyron]

Besides Cerberus, seeing the Geth faction fighting any of the others would be the closest thing to watching the Geth "non-heretics" doing their part in the Reaper War which Bioware was nice work up our hopes for in ME2 and then crush them in ME3.

[TheMyron]

How do you people get the "Quote" bubble? I have tried "Quote" and "MultiQuote", but somehow the post that I am directly replying to doesn't show on my posts...