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#26
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Mordin

Miranda

Zaeed

Thane

Samara



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1. Tali'zorah

2. Mordin Solas

3. Garrus Vakarian

4. Legion

5. Kasumi Goto

6. Jack, Grunt, Jacob, & Samara (just sorta okay)

7. Miranda & Zaheed (despised)



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Garrus

Mordin

Grunt

Zaeed

Tali

Thane

Jack

Kasumi

Samara

Legion

Jacob

Miranda

 

Legion would probably be higher on my list if he didn't come so late in the game.



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I don't think I could make an actual list... I do have "levels" though: 

 

Good: Tali, Garrus, James, Grunt, motherfucking Javik

 

Mixed: Wrex, Legion, Mordin (all because of ME3 characterizations, if it were ME2 exclusive, Mordin at least would be solidly good)

 

Meh: Thane, Samara, Nyreen, Zaeed, Kaidan, Kasumi, Ashley, Liara (I dislike the obvious favoritism the dev team has for her, but otherwise I'm just kind of indifferent) 

 

Bad: EDI, Miranda, Aria, Jacob (normally he'd be "meh", but he's just so aggressively meh that he comes back around and starts being bad)

 

That's across the whole series. I don't like splitting my choices up into single games, as the characters don't feel "complete" that way. 



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My list is based on how interested I am in what each squad-mate brings to the Story of Mass Effect 2.

 

 

1. Legion - Simply because being able to recruit a Geth turns the enitre story on it's head.

2. Mordin - Probably the most plot relevant, and offers a second side to the Genophage as a whole.

3. Miranda - The reason Shepard is alive and the Illusive Man's second. Tries to convince you to give Cerberus a real chance.

4. Jacob - Former Alliance that felt Cerberus would get the job done even if he had reservations about Cerberus. The first to give Shepard info about the 2 year time skip.

5. Jack - Questions you on the morality of working with Cerberus with her past and conflict with Miranda.

6. Grunt - Shows a different path to combating the Genophage.

7. Samara - Expansion on Asari culture and history.

8. Garrus - Shepard's buddy.

9. Tali - I don't care. I guess she can stop being kind of racist of you have Legion but really I don't care.

10. Thane - Red Herring for the Suicide Mission. Otherwise he's fan-service.

11. Zaeed - DLC

12. Kasumi - DLC


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I can't see their powers lose from the story and character. I take their powers into consideration for the following list:

 

ME2:

Liara: most powerful character in the game besides Shepard. This is true for every Mass Effect game btw. My canon LI.

Samara: love love love love love the Justicar stuff. Also quite powerful.. and as Assault Rifle wielding biotic just like me.

-whole bunch of nothing-

Thane: didn't care much for him at first. Combine him with Adept Shepard and it's combo galore + his unique ability slaughters Collectors

Zaeed: didn't care much for him at first either. He grew on me. His weapon damage is insane, his grenade power fantastic. Zaeed + Thane is now my standard Collector/Husk squad

Grunt: he's just hilarious.

Mordin: invaluable. I hardly ever use him in combat though. I like his ramblings. His assuming you want him as LI when you're not interested in any of the ME2 Normandy crew is hilarious.

Legion: AI in my squad? YES PLEASE.

Kasumi: she's just so wonderfully weird.

Miranda: snobbish. She has the coolest way of romancing in the entire game though.

Jack: absolutely useless in combat, but I like her character. Way to go Bioware for making the 'extremely powerful biotic' so worthless in combat

Tali: meh, Quarian

Garrus: yes-man, worthless Turian. (granted, as David/Bob pointed out, most aliens are completely out of character for their species)

-whole bunch of nothing-

-whole bunch of nothing-

Jacob: just no.

 

Special mentions: I don't recal Morinth ever surviving Samara's loyalty mission in any of my games. Hence she's not on the list. Ashley and Kaidan, though not squadmates, are hella annoying.

 

You kidding? Miranda is arguably the best squadmate in terms of powers: She strips armor, barriers, and shields with all of her powers. Her passive gives a health and damage boost to the squad that isn't insignificant. Give her a shuriken, and she'll be accurate and strip shields. Give her a tempest, and she'll stagger enemies. Her only drawback is that she's relatively squishy.

 

That list can't be taken seriously. Jack is second on it (lolwut?). Legion fifth. I love the character of Legion, but he's useless against anything but Geth.



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Miranda

Legion

Thane

Kasumi

Mordin

Samara

Grunt

Garrus

Jacob

Zaeed

Tali

Liara

Jack



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1. Mordin (head and shoulders above everyone else for me)

2. Garrus

3. Thane

4. Legion

5. Zaeed

6. Kasumi

7. Grunt

Everyone else was on the same level after in my opinion



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ME2 wise:

 

Miranda

Mordin

Legion

Thane

Jacob

Samara

Zaeed

Grunt

Kasumi

Garrus

Jack

Tali

Morinth



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1. Mordin
2. Samara
3. Kasumi
4. Legion
5. Grunt
6. Zaeed
7. Jack
8. Jacob
9. Garrus
10.Thane
11.Miranda
12.Tali



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1 . Grunt

2 jacob

3 garrus

4 tali



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Liara, (she's my girl) and Garrus (he's my bro),  As well as Uncle Urdnot Wrex of course.

 

But other than them for ME2 ?

 

Grunt -  ("I don't care where I fight. As long as I get to hurt someone.")

Samara - ("I will fight and struggle all my life; that is my fate. When I die, it will not be in bed. I am at peace with that.")

Mordin - ( *sniff* "Problematic.")

Legion - ("Geth do not infiltrate.")

Miranda 

Zaeed

 

The others? Meh!



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1. Garrrus

2. Tali

3. Mordin

4. Thane

5. legion

6  Grunt

7. Zaeed

8. Jacob

9. Kasumi

10 Jack

11 samara

miranda can jog on.



#39
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ME2: Depends on the mission:

 

If mostly scientific, then Mordin.

 

If mostly combat then "kill you all" Jack, Zaeed, Miranda, Grunt

 

If stealth & needing a sniper, Garrus, Thane

 

If just exploration, lite combat & intelligent comment, then Kasumi, Legion, Mordin



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Miranda

Garrus

Legion

Tali

Mordin

Samara

Kasumi

Thane

Grunt

Zaeed

Jacob

 

Really after Mordin the rankings could be a little different depending on mood.  For instance, I think the story of Jacob's LM is more interesting than some of the other LMs.  But I don't think his back story as generic Alliance soldier is all that interesting.



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Wrote something on this before, but here goes

 

1.) Mordin - Positively hilarious, appropriately deep on loyalty mission, great banter, great everything!

 

2.) Legion - He stopped and made me think about the geth, even in the very end of the game. Great banter

 

3.) Kasumi - Everyone of the characters has deep emotional baggage, and she's light and fun, the contrast plays up well. She still gets a moment of depth

 

4.) Samara - Of all the characters, I find her to be the most alien. I need that in a game with aliens. Plus, her "romance" dialogue is sublime

 

5.) Garrus - He was almost there as the bestie I liked in ME3. I didn't care for his romance, though, but his banter and loyalty mission rocked

 

6.) Tali - Just like Garrus, but her romance dialogue was infinitely better, at the exchange of having less connection in non-romance. Her missions suffered, I liked the other characters in her missions more than her (I didn't not like her, though)

 

7.) Zaeed - He's fun! And interesting to play with.

 

8.) Thane - He's pretty cool, I like the spiritual aspect of his character. He is a little forced on us, though, I seem to see him in a lot of cutscenes during the suicide mission

 

9.) Miranda - She started off strong, but later she faded into the background, and her talk about how Pragia "wasn't really Cerberus" irked me, and I couldn't get into her loyalty mission

 

10.) Jack - Her romance dialogue was beautiful, but the rest of her character annoyed me aside from sparing Aresh, and even then, Shepard did more

 

11.) Wilson - Massively underutilized. I wish he could have come along more and betrayed us later, rather than in the prologue mission, it would have had more depth.

 

12.) Grunt - While he had some wonderfully childish battle quotes, he talked way too much about the "glory of the krogan". I didn't care about the krogan, and so, not about Grunt's connection to them.

 

13.) Kenson - She's an exposition fairy, which annoyed me. That being said, she is fun to shoot, and I love the desperation in her voice when she "can't hear the whispers anymore"

 

14.) Morinth - Samara made too much sense when she said Ardat-Yakshi can't be the "genetic destiny of the asari", because they are sterile. Other than that, there was nothing interesting to her character. I took her once to get Dominate, and restarted the mission when I got it. 

 

15.) Jacob - Boring as hell. The interesting parts of his loyalty mission came from everyone else, not him

 

16.) Liara - A fake friend I'm forced to not only like, but talk all nice to. Wanted to shoot her so bad. 

 

 



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ME1: Wrex, then everyone else

ME2: Mordin, Garrus, Jack, Zaeed, Grunt, Samara, Kasumi, Miranda, Tali, Legion, Thane, Jacob. Pretty much in that order.

ME3: Garrus, Tali, then everyone else

 

I missed Wrex for two games. Seeing him go all "Shepard! *enthusiastic mumbling* My friend!" made me feel all warm and fuzzy.



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You kidding? Miranda is arguably the best squadmate in terms of powers: She strips armor, barriers, and shields with all of her powers. Her passive gives a health and damage boost to the squad that isn't insignificant. Give her a shuriken, and she'll be accurate and strip shields. Give her a tempest, and she'll stagger enemies. Her only drawback is that she's relatively squishy.

I am most certainly not joking; Miranda is easily the most overrated character in the game...any role she can serve on the battlefield can be more efficiently met with any of the specialists you retrieve by early to mid game. Her versatility is ultimately an empty feature in a game with universal cooldowns and enemies whose resistances are determined by their faction.

Like Jacob, Miranda has a basic and unrefined skillset meant to fill a wide range of roles---none of which either of them are especially efficient at. At later levels she is meant to be replaced with more specialized characters for each specific mission, based on the types of enemies to be encountered based on the dossier description or planetary scan. Compared to other squad members I find her lacking in three areas:
-Only proficient in light weapons
-Power focused character with no power damage/recharge bonuses
-Relying on squad members to pierce defenses with their powers is incredibly inefficient, even on Insanity, and even then she is the most inefficient with them due to universal cooldowns and the aforementioned reasons

If I want shield damage in a radius I can take Garrus or Tali, who have superior powers for the role combined with superior weapons.
If I want armor damage in a radius I can take Samara or Mordin, who likewise have superior powers for that purpose and greater fortitude.
If I want barrier damage, Warp detonations, and Newton force kills then I can take Jack and Thane, who also have superior weapons and are more efficient in those roles.

Regardless, when it comes to squad members and their cool-downs, crowd-control powers are inherently superior to resistance-damage powers---for the following reasons:

* Weapons inflict up to x2.25 more damage to armor/barrier/shields than they do against health, thanks to x1.5 upgrades and x1.5 innate multipliers.
* Powers like Pull cause enemies to take double damage to health, and give further bonuses by bringing them into close range. On squad members the recharge time of these powers are only x1.5 longer than Shepard's (as opposed to x2 for resistance damage powers) and three of the four characters with Pull also have a -25% recharge speed bonus from passives.
* Powers like Overload and Warp on Insanity will only barely pierce the defenses of the most basic trooper tier enemies, and to do so they require either all upgrades, or non-radius Heavy evolutions, or another damage bonus (i.e. Mordin's upgrade or Garrus' training). On squad members their recharge time is x2 longer than Shepard's, and only Samara has a cooldown reduction for hers.
* Weapons like the Geth Plasma Shotgun or the M-9 Tempest in the hands of squad members (even with the squad damage 50% penalty) can inflict the same shield/barrier damage as the aforementioned powers with a single shot or burst fire sequence from cover with the same amount of upgrades.

So if a Blue Suns Trooper has 500 Health and 500 shields (and at level 30 on Insanity he does), then who is going to kill them more efficiently? Since you listed SMG proficiency as an asset I will use the M-9 Tempest here, and since you cite defense piercing powers as if they are necessary then I will use Morinth---who has no defense stripping powers, SMG proficiency (along with assault rifles) and the best suite of crowd control talents---as an example.

For the sake of reference the M-9 Tempest has base damage of 14 (7 for squad members), a rate of fire of 900/min (15 bullets per second), squad members firing from cover unleash two equally long bursts before reloading, which at 50 rounds per clip they fire up to 25 rounds per burst. The weapon has an innate 1.5 damage multiplier against shields, a second 1.5 multiplier for the shield piercing upgrade, both of which multiply the damage after their additive bonuses are applied (60% upgrades and their respective 25%/18% weapon bonuses from class training)

So, against the aforementioned Blue Suns Trooper, (30th level, Insanity, all upgrades:

Miranda can use her cooldown on Overload, then expend 39 bullets fired from her M-9 Tempest fired in two bursts from cover to finish off his health. Total cost: 10.2 second cooldown and two firing sequences from cover.

Morinth can reverse the process by expending 18 shots from the M-9 Tempest to pierce his shields, then immediately hit him with Pull. Once he is lifted the trooper also takes double damage to health, which means he is dead with just another 19 rounds or less. Total cost: 4.95 second cooldown and two firing sequences from cover.

Now what if there are other enemies, or more powerful enemies? Well Miranda can rinse and repeat the same inefficient sequence, albeit with more use of her guns against elite targets. With Morinth the Blue Suns trooper can instead be affected by Enhanced Dominate, which even when used on the most basic enemies still has a greater damage per second potential (i.e. damage inflicted divided by cooldown) than any of Miranda's powers. Enemies use the same weapons, with the same multipliers to shields/barriers. The main difference is that they do not have squad penalties to their damage, and thanks to enemy AI formations they are already in close range/behind their former allies once they are controlled. They also draw aggression from nearby enemies away from my team.
So now I have removed one enemy from the pool of enemies attacking my squad and added it to my own, which in turn means more damage per second inflicted on the nearest elite/boss target and less damage taken. So now once the elite mercenary carrying heavy weapons has their shields brought down by a combination of enemy and friendly fire I can have her Dominate them instead, which further escalates the damage per second ratio she brings to the table.

So basically if I want to spend twice as much effort and time killing the same target then I should go with Miranda and her basic and unfocused skill set. If I want to kill adversaries 50% faster I will go with the top 5 characters listed in the preferences, all of whom have a more tactical and readily useable suite of powers.
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#44
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I am not going to write a treatise.  I strongly disagree with the above.

 

For one thing, how is Tali's Energy Drain any better than Miranda's Overload?  They have the same stats essentially, with the exception that E-Drain does nothing to organic health and Overload at least causes overheat.  And it isn't as if Tali has any help from passive, it is just Power Duration.  Tali's weapon skillset is inferior to Miranda's unless you have the GPS.  Then it might be better, thank God for OP DLC guns.

 

The whole bit about squadmate weapon damage is way into theorycrafting land.  Squad mate weapon damage largely does nothing except on a couple characters, and even then largely with DLC guns only.

 

Most of the squadmates work better vs some faction or another and with certain Shepard classes or another.  Miranda works pretty well in every mission with every class.  Tali is great vs Synthetics so she is good v Geth.  I fail to see much of a point in using her as an EDrain spammer v Blue Suns though since she doesn't ragdoll organics at all, and their mechs are few and far between.  Likewise against Eclipse she can hack mechs that are down to armor, but I could have Miri Slam them if I want CC.  Or I could have her Overload them if she didn't do her LM.  Or I can have her Warp them if I would rather throw them myself.

 

And Morinth?  You have a lot more use for Dominate than I do.

 

Anyway I am playing Adept right now.  I personally like dual overloading on mainline missions and using my own rapid cooldown CC powers.  Sure I can run Jack and Pull them if I want to strip every defense myself but I don't tend to find it any more efficient to do it that way than the other way around.



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ME1

 

1-> Garrus

2-> Liara

3-> Wrex

4-> Tali

<hilariously large gap>

Kaidan and Ashley in no particular order, my dilemma on Virmire was which I wanted dead the most

 

ME2

 

1-> Garrus

2-> Mordin

3-> Tali

4-> Grunt

5-> Legion

<gap>

6-> Zaeed

7-> Samara

8-> Thane

<rather large gap>

9-> Jack

10-> Miranda

<hilariously large gap>

11-> Jacob

12-> Kasumi



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Also going to disagree that Miranda is bad.

 

The mere fact that her passive boosts YOUR damage and health is already massive.  Throw in powers versus every defense and the insanity of the AI with Tempest and she's my #1 squadmate in general.

 

For certain missions you might be able to argue two other squadmates are superior (specific to that mission) but she's incredibly powerful overall.

 

I'd honestly be curious to see you upload some footage of ME2 insanity with the tactics you discussed, I'll do the same for mine if you do.  I can use Infiltrator/Soldier/Sentinel/Vanguard as classes at a minimum but could set up the other classes if needed.



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I classed them by preferences of personality, not gameplay effectiveness



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Wasn't referring to your post, Doominike :)



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ME1: Liara, Kaiden, Wrex, Tali, Garrus, Ashley

ME2: Samara, Morinth, Jack, Miranda, Thane, Mordin, Kasumi, Tali, Leigon, Grunt, Garrus, Jacob, Zaeed

ME3: Liara, Kaiden, Javik, Tali, EDI, Garrus, James, Ashley



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Wasn't referring to your post, Doominike :)

Oh sorry, it was right after mine and it fit so I assumed