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[Beregond5]

I mostly end up doing the DR. My Dalish Archer felt that, with only three Wardens left in all of Ferelden, they had to make sure that they survived long enough to at least try and rebuild the order; whereas my Rogue Cousland just wanted the chance to grow old with Alistair.

I only refused the DR once... and, good grief, everything went into tearjerker territory. To elaborate, my Amell was in love with Alistair, but set him up with Anora for the good of Ferelden. Anora told the mage warden that she's *not* to see Alistair again, even if she needn't have bothered (Alistair was unhardened and, thus, broke up with Amell). Morrigan suggested the Ritual, Amell went to Alistair with the intention of telling him of Morrigan's plan but, after talking to him... she couldn't do it; she simply excused herself without even mentioning the plan and went back to Morrigan to tell her what happened. And just like that, Amell lost a good friend, if not the best (Morrigan ran off) and, right when it was time to slay the dragon, Alistair stopped her and sacrificed himself so that she didn't die. So... yeah...

[StaceysChain]

I very rarely accept the Dark Ritual. Out of all my playthroughs I've only done it twice, once in my "evil" playthrough and another where I romanced Alistair. My reasons (and therefore most of my character's reasons) is that I did not want to bestow what seemed a dangerous and dark as well as unknown power onto an unborn innocent child, as well as basically decide it's life and fate for it when I (and my characters) had absolutely no right to do so. Not only that, but I had no idea what Morrigan intended to do with both the child and power and I didn't trust her to raise a child as a loving mother at the time. Not to mention I didn't trust Flemeth at all and I didn't want to give her any kind of power.

 

In all but one of the playthroughs where I've refused the DR I've made Loghain make the Ultimate Sacrifice - a fitting and redeeming end for him imo. I've had one Warden also make the US. In my canon playthrough however, my warden romanced Morrigan and had a normal child with her. In my "evil" playthrough my Warden didn't care about anything but himself and jumped at the opportunity to save himself - not even the idea of having a child made him feel happy or care about anything else. In the Alistair-romance playthrough, my warden felt horrible for agreeing to Morrigan's request and forcing Alistair to sleep with her, but she was selfish and wanted to have a life with him afterwards (and also cuz I wanted to see the consquences of the DR).

[Marika Haliwell]

I always accepted the DR so i can keep my love Alistair

[Kynare]

In my first game, I played an Amell who romanced Alistair, made him king alone, chose not to become his mistress and convinced him to do the ritual. I actually rejected Morrigan the first time around because I was still pissy after Alistair broke up with me Amell lol, but ultimately had second thoughts and reloaded. Amell was heartbroken (they really drove in the fact that she can't have Alistair's children), but trusted Morrigan as a friend and her skills as fellow mage. She's a knowledge junkie and wouldn't have opposed joining in so that she could learn for herself how the ritual worked. Alas... no one offered.

 

In my second playthrough, I played a Cousland who romanced Morrigan, Leliana, then married Anora, cast out Alistair and had Morrigan's baby. As diabolical as he was at times, no one could deny his capability. Bring on the age of King (consort) Cousland!

[springacres]

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In my second playthrough, I played a Cousland who romanced Morrigan, Leliana, then married Anora, cast out Alistair and had Morrigan's baby. As diabolical as he was at times, no one could deny his capability. Bring on the age of King (consort) Cousland!

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I know this is random, but that made me think of Aveline's line about having children in DAII Legacy:

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    Fenris: Donnic tells me you have spoken of children.
    Aveline: You two talk too much.
    Fenris: (Chuckles) I picture a red headed brood, each able to lift a cow.
    Aveline: (Laughs) If you also picture Donnic carrying them to term and pushing them out of his ass, then I'm all for it.

[Mr Plow]

My Warden's pants were off the moment he saw her at the fireplace

[sleeping heart]

She's always my romance option so, yeah i do. makes sense.

[b4ld5h3ph4rd]

For my female noble dwarven grey warden, I make alistair sleep with her. But only because it can potentially do something interesting in dragon age inquisition, which I will have to upgrade from a 3.0 GHz dual core to play. I don't believe that the child won't be used against ferelden. I think that it will be complicated and definitely involved in the well being of felreldon. But then, who knows. I know nothing of inquisition for now.

[Ash Wind]

I usually perform the DR, as Morrigan is usually my romance option. While, the very first play-through I refused, only because of her attitude. The 'proposal' wasn't very well done.

 

The design of the scene was weak, asking you to make this choice with absolutely no information on which to make a real choice. As I understand it, a more contrite version was cut prior to the game's release, and is something the scene could have benefitted from.

 

Like far too many DA scenes, it has an awesome build up, but the payoff is severely lacking.

 

Still, my canon warden's are spoiled coulsland royals who like living. So far, their choices have resulted in a little boy who speaks wierdly at times and eventually loses the direct object the DR was intended to capture. Not something the world needs protecting from. As the consequences, 10-12 years into it are minimal, my canon Warden would perform the DR again.

[dongsaeng]

To become The Queen, US is not an option. :x

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

To become The Queen, US is not an option. :x

I was rather under the impression that it was mandatory in order to be the queen.

[Cyrus Amell]

I once played a Dwarf Noble who chose to refuse the ritual and instead let Loghain sacrifice himself. When the game ended I personally felt that something was missing. Certainly the Blight was ended but the world felt, I don't know, more empty without that lovable demon baby growing in the background. And when my dwarf finally met up with Morrigan she was really pissed - I mean there was some fire in her reproach of my dwarf's decision! No wrath like a woman scorned, right? 

 

In short, the Dark Ritual feels like something that is too big to miss out on (even if it's not - no spoilers from Inquisition please). Like a secret chapter you discard and never pick up. Without the Dark Ritual the story ends when you kill the big bad dragon (seen that 100 times), whereas with the Ritual you get the potential for more and better stories. Granted, this is also easier for a male already romancing her.

[dragonflight288]

I once played a Dwarf Noble who chose to refuse the ritual and instead let Loghain sacrifice himself. When the game ended I personally felt that something was missing. Certainly the Blight was ended but the world felt, I don't know, more empty without that lovable demon baby growing in the background. And when my dwarf finally met up with Morrigan she was really pissed - I mean there was some fire in her reproach of my dwarf's decision! No wrath like a woman scorned, right? 

 

In short, the Dark Ritual feels like something that is too big to miss out on (even if it's not - no spoilers from Inquisition please). Like a secret chapter you discard and never pick up. Without the Dark Ritual the story ends when you kill the big bad dragon (seen that 100 times), whereas with the Ritual you get the potential for more and better stories. Granted, this is also easier for a male already romancing her.

 

I won't spoil anything, but the Dark Ritual does play a very LARGE role, not in scope but in the implications of the various scenes that deal with it in Inquisition.

 

That's all I'm going to say. 

 

Oh, and Loghain is awesome in Inquisition, so spare him at least once for one playthrough. 

[Cyrus Amell]

 

Oh, and Loghain is awesome in Inquisition, so spare him at least once for one playthrough. 

 

 

I did not think the old coot would still be kicking by then. I did the DR and kept him alive on my main, so I can already see both  

[dragonflight288]

I did not think the old coot would still be kicking by then. I did the DR and kept him alive on my main, so I can already see both

 

He's still around if he survives Origins. 

 

I once made a thread hoping for a cameo if he survives. We most certainly get a lot more than that. I think you'll enjoy his content. 

[Greypaul]

Yes alway's it's my Ninja way!

 

 

 

 

What have you there a mirror?........Its's simply a present...................For a beautiful woman .

[Marika Haliwell]

I actually see another sense in DR , more than an option to save Alistair, the Warden and have Morrigan happy. If you romanced Alistair and then you talked with Wynne about it , in the first speech she will tell you thiis ( aprox. , because i can't remember the correct lines) : " What one of you die? What it takes to someone to cross the line between self preservation and the good for all? Love is selfish "

 

So now imagine this in real life : What you would do knowing that you or the loved one should have to die for the greatest good? Many would say that they would choose to sacrifice because they can't see another option . Now imagine that your friend or someone close to you comes and offers a choice , a difficult one, a choice that you don't know if it is god or bad, if it will have consequences later , or not. 

 

Then knowing that, a lot of us would choose to live and save the loved one because that is the human nature: self preservation and the will to survive.

 

So Morrigan's ritual shows us how much we hang on even a little hope in order to survive .

[Kernel_Error]

I actually see another sense in DR , more than an option to save Alistair, the Warden and have Morrigan happy. If you romanced Alistair and then you talked with Wynne about it , in the first speech she will tell you thiis ( aprox. , because i can't remember the correct lines) : " What one of you die? What it takes to someone to cross the line between self preservation and the good for all? Love is selfish "

 

So now imagine this in real life : What you would do knowing that you or the loved one should have to die for the greatest good? Many would say that they would choose to sacrifice because they can't see another option . Now imagine that your friend or someone close to you comes and offers a choice , a difficult one, a choice that you don't know if it is god or bad, if it will have consequences later , or not. 

 

Then knowing that, a lot of us would choose to live and save the loved one because that is the human nature: self preservation and the will to survive.

 

So Morrigan's ritual shows us how much we hang on even a little hope in order to survive .

 

I think in that situation I would be selfish to preserve myself and the loved ones, in fact in my play I  try to think of my warden as a survivor and in that moment,  however she doesn't love the idea, she thinks one problem at time...  firstly dealing with the archdemon and if there's a chance for her and for Alistair to survive it, take it and later if this become a problem, deal with it as they've done with the archdemon.

[ImAnElfMofos!]

I always do.

 

I will always be male in all of my playthroughs and I will always love Morrigan and Leliana (Anora if human noble) with polygamey with a little escapade with Isabela at The Pearl. 

[Miss Golightly]

I always accept the DR. Seeing Morrigan as a parent in DAI is too good to pass up.

 

I try to look at it in a real world setting. If you were in a life-or-death situation and you knew that either you or your lover/friend was going to die, and somehow there was a way to have it so you could both live, would you not take it? I know I would.

I played my original Warden as if I were in the game, and that's how I saw it. It was like having my best friend asking to sleep with my boyfriend, but I convinced Alistair to go through with it anyway.

 

My second Warden was in a romance with Morrigan, and that was a no brainier for him. I actually consider him my canon Warden now.

 

Also, first post here. Wooo.

[sjsharp2011]

I did do it on my first run through the game and will probably get Alistair to do it on the next run given I was thinking of being a female warden on my next playthrough

[Ellyria]

For all my imports, only one Warden accepted the DR. Two of my Wardens did the US and Loghain did it once. I don't trust Morrigan with any kind of power, so when another certain choice in DA:I popped up, I got pretty peeved.

[Marika Haliwell]

The more I read the books and knowing the games plot , the more I think we shouldn't be afraid of poor Morrigan XD or her baby . i won't spoil the DAI  or the books for those who never read them but trust me when I am saying that Maric, Loghain, The warden, hawke, The inquisitor and Morrigan and implicitly us, we all are well played by someone bigger in the background . 

[Frybread76]

Yes.  I performed the DR in my first playthrough and in most of the following games.  My only concern was the OG's soul would dispossess or dominate the fetus' soul.  Kinda like when a person is possessed by a demon or spirit in other media.

 

But, then, I figured that wouldn't happen.  I figured the fetus could carry both souls, with it's own soul being dominant.  That made me feel better about the DR.  (My belief was, fortunately, justified in DA:I).

[Frybread76]

Sorry, I double posted on accident.