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[xelander]

Yes, it's that thread again. I've been trying to use the Drone on Platinum and I find it often underwhelming. I would like to know, for those of you who use it, how do you spec it and when do you deploy it?

 

In my opinion, there are basically three ways to spec into it - just three points, as a Shock Drone (Detonate, Shock, Chain Lightning), or as a Rocket Drone (Shields&Damage, Shields&Damage, Rockets).

 

The Rocket Drone deploys slow, has a crap refire rate (4 secs) and dies way to quickly on Platinum in order to be a good independent damage dealer (like the turrets are). The basic Drone is just a gimped version of the Shock one, and in the situations when I'd use a Shock Drone, Overload (if it has at least one Chain OL evolution) seems like a better idea (with the sole exception of Geth Slimes).

 

I'd love to be able to play a Shotgun Engie a la ME2, but I just can't make it work well. The points I'd spend for the Drone seem much better used for passives and fitness.

 

So, three questions:

 

How do you spec your Drone?

Do you have Overload in your build as well?

When do you use the one and when the other?

[Pearl (rip bioware)]

I use the drone on my Gold build (66653), but on Platinum, I skip it altogether (06666).

[megabeast37215]

Shock, Detonate, Chain

The Drone has more value in Platinum bc Platinum has Geth and Phantoms in every game.. and the drone trolls the f0ck out of them. Overload does not replace the Drone bc Overload doesn't aggro Geth units (including Primes) and Phantoms.

I would go 6/6/6/5/3 or just take Drone to rank 4 and take fitness to rank 5. The quantity of shields isn't going to matter much on plat bc you're going to get gated by everything anyway.. but the shield recharge rate at rank 5 fitness is pretty worth it IMO.

[Dr. Tim Whatley]

I think it's a waste of time on the HE personally. I always feel I'm better off using overload in any situation I might consider deploying the drone.

[megabeast37215]

I think it's a waste of time on the HE personally. I always feel I'm better off using overload in any situation I might consider deploying the drone.

I'd agree if playing Gold bc it's pretty worthless against most of Cerberus, all Reapers but Marauders/Cannibals (who rape it anyway) and Collectors (their infantry rape it anyway).. but there are so many units in Platinum that get suckered by the Drone that it's actually worth it there. There are either Primes or Phantoms in half of all plat waves..

[Dr. Tim Whatley]

I'd agree if playing Gold bc it's pretty worthless against most of Cerberus, all Reapers but Marauders/Cannibals (who rape it anyway) and Collectors (their infantry rape it anyway).. but there are so many units in Platinum that get suckered by the Drone that it's actually worth it there. There are either Primes or Phantoms in half of all plat waves..

 

Phantoms I can take care of easily enough (off host FTW), but I can certainly see the utility vs Primes. I guess I got too used to playing without it to start off with.

[HusarX]

66644 It's my standard gold bulid. For plat I would go with Adrenaline 3/Cylonic 3-4 + Talon/Venom/Wraith/Arc Pistol. The drone is not a damage dealer , it's a distraction that sometimes can detonate your FE. For me personally crowd control > extra damage/fitness in passives.

 

Also, once a drone saved me while I was doing wave 10 devices (Cerberus Glacier), so drone > typicall pugs.

[me0120]

If nobody is going to mention the usefulness of drones and sentry turrets against Banshees then I will.

When a banshee has completely stopped charging deploy the drone/turret. It can cause her to continuously nova without regards to anything else. That means you have full utilization of powers during nova bursts until she starts jumping again.


P.S. 3/6/6/6/5 for me.

[Argent Xero]

Shock, Detonate, Chain
The Drone has more value in Platinum bc Platinum has Geth and Phantoms in every game.. and the drone trolls the f0ck out of them. Overload does not replace the Drone bc Overload doesn't aggro Geth units (including Primes) and Phantoms.
I would go 6/6/6/5/3 or just take Drone to rank 4 and take fitness to rank 5. The quantity of shields isn't going to matter much on plat bc you're going to get gated by everything anyway.. but the shield recharge rate at rank 5 fitness is pretty worth it IMO.

agreed. Combat Drone is a great power to have.

you forgot to mention that pets near a Banshee will make her use her scream attack in which she is completely vulnerable to powers for about 3 seconds.

or what me0W said. :3

[Catastrophy]

Shock, Detonate, Chain on a 6/6/6/6/0 build. Good for Geth and Phantoms as was already pointed out.

 

On Gold I use rocket drones, they can rack up quite a lot of points but it depends on the map.

[Argent Xero]

Shock, Detonate, Chain on a 6/6/6/6/0 build. Good for Geth and Phantoms as was already pointed out.
 
On Gold I use rocket drones, they can rack up quite a lot of points but it depends on the map.

points? what are these points you speak of?

[Catastrophy]

points? what are these points you speak of?

The ones that make our N7 get bigger and bigger.

[xelander]

Hmm, I read the wiki on Combat Drone once again and it says that Chain Lightning and Shock are two competing attacks (i.e. CL will not stagger, whereas Shock will stagger even Phantoms). In that case, I suspect I'd be better served with not getting CL  - use the drone as a Prime/phantom trolling device and use Incinerate/Overload for mook CC.

 

Something like this.

[FuriousFelicia]

Shock, blow up, shock. The drone should be deployed on target. Never just drop it on the floor.
A thing you can do once you deployed it is feed the mob with a primar from your gun or do the same with incinerate or overload so that when the enemies destroy it, you get a possible 6/6 explosion (if you used your power as a primar)
Don't expect the drone to do some awesome job on its own, but rather cooperate with it. It's a great aggro tool and it will stagger multiple targets in a decent radius. Primes, and phantoms are suckers for the drone and will look to deal with it every time you land one by them - there's your 'on target deployment'

I don't skip it even on platinum.

[FuriousFelicia]

I managed to circle glacier vs geth using drone, and decoy, spamming Venom in fly bys. So until wave 3 gold/gethI never lost shield gate once, and I rarely ever cloaked (Volus merc). A cheesy settup I know but the point is the geth barely ever noticed me or fired upon me through entire 2 waves.
A lot of FEs with the drone.

[FuriousFelicia]

Hmm, I read the wiki on Combat Drone once again and it says that Chain Lightning and Shock are two competing attacks (i.e. CL will not stagger, whereas Shock will stagger even Phantoms). In that case, I suspect I'd be better served with not getting CL  - use the drone as a Prime/phantom trolling device and use Incinerate/Overload for mook CC.
 
Something like this.

Now that you mentioned it, I did notice that with phantoms.

[eighteighty]

drone is much to fun to skip.  

I've been having fun with my incendiary lancer HE.  Light everything up with incendiary and spam chain overload for fire explosions while throwing new drones at the geth.

[Chealec]

You could try something like this

 

Though I tend to run either 6/6/6/5/3 or all the 6s with 0 on drone ... but actually, I think I'm gonna respec my HME again to use that build above

[Pheabus2009]

This is my build on human engineer.

 

Shock and chain lightning on drone=group stun;

Chain overload=group stun;

Falcon with disruptor rounds=area stun, also may prime targets for incinerate tech bursts;(you can try Venom too, but it is much heavier)

 

On Gold with this build, it is basically walking in the park.

On Plat it might be harder, because this char is kinda weak against bosses, but still worth a try.

[Lucky]

I think it is worth taking to rank 4 for detonate. I like a 4/6/6/5/5 build on the human engi the best.

[TheNightSlasher]

1. Detonate, shock, chain lightning

2. Overload - yes, always spec into it. 

3. I always have a drone active on the field. I particularly cast them near phantoms, geth in general, mooks and banshees that stopped teleporting. Overload is a good hitscan CC power, as I spec for max chain effect. It's also nice to strip shields and stagger annoying enemies like nemeses, hunters, bombers etc.

 

I can't not spec into the drone on the HE. Doesn't feel complete without it to me. Drone trivializes geth if you use it right, it messes up phantoms and the detonate evo is particularly useful against them. Nearly all mooks get distracted by it (even if they kill it fast, it gives you a few seconds where they are not engaging you in gunfire). When you cast it near a banshee that stopped teleporting, she'll do her scream attack which makes her vulnerable to powers.

[capn233]

You can simply not spec Drone, the other powers are more utilitarian.  But if you do spec it then go at least Rank 4 for Detonate (as it can detonate combos).  Shock and Chain Lightning might make sense after that.

 

Basically your Drone points will need to come from Alliance Training and / or Passive, so you can decide which to pull them from.  Some people pull points from Incinerate though.

[Dunvi]

I consider it a fairly low-CD shock bomb. Makes it good for phantoms. Me0's point about banshees is good too.

 

You can also skip it entirely with little to no loss of utility.

[Beerfish]

I don't play Plat much but I'm surprised because I would have thought the drone would be a real help on that level of difficulty due to it's distraction abilities, perhaps it gets killed too quickly?  The last few times I've used it on gold it drives some of the bosses crazy, especially primes.

[Credit2team]

makes no sense to use it on anything beyond silver, but if you're going to, only put 4 points into it for detonate.