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Please remove the Spellbook casting!


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#51
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Why do people see something they personally don't like and then ask that it be removed? Why not just not use it yourself? Plenty of gameplay footage with mages using a staff and not a spellbook.

Because they don't think it fits the game's setting. Because they think it's ridicolous.
As I said, I couldn't care less about it, but I think people have the same rights of posting their hope that a feature they don't like is removed as people who want a certain feature to be included.
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BG had two separate schools of magic, the Sorcerer who cast spells without any major preparation and the Wizards who had to read a spell before they could use it.  I always liked them both so if they have some spells where you need to read them I'm fine with it.  

 

However,  I'm not thrilled with the idea of holding a book in one hand.  I'd rather just hold my hands out or hold the staff out.  If I needed to hit something, a book probably wouldn't help much.



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NO. That effect is cool and relevant and it should stay. 

 

Mages are intellectuals and intellectuals read books a lot. Using them in combat animations is very mage-like. 


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Because they don't think it fits the game's setting. Because they think it's ridicolous.
As I said, I couldn't care less about it, but I think people have the same rights of posting their hope that a feature they don't like is removed as people who want a certain feature to be included.

No one said they didn't have the right. Wanting something so trivial to be removed is bizarre nonetheless.



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So essentially "Please remove a feature that I'm not even sure is in the game because I don't like it"?


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I think the spell book should be there if it is the first time using the spell.



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books, staffs, give me a good ol fashioned fire place poker and ill be happy



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This. I think it's fantastic. I prefer my RPG characters to have flaws, that is, to be powerful and well-versed, but not a 'spellslinger', rather someone who needs reference material like a spell book. I like to think there is so much magic in the world, how can one hold that much knowledge in one's head? I think the spell book animation is a great little nod to that.

DA2 was too 'pew pew' with spells for my tastes.


Magic on da is pew pew. There are no spells in the lore, only mage power and imagination. Mages in da are like x-men, like jedi, its their inborn power, not something anyone can learn like wizards in d&d.
Mage reading a book in combat is akin to an archer reading an archers manual to remember how they are supposed to handle the bow.
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I think the spell book should be there if it is the first time using the spell.


If its your first time you will fail, and you will fail many more times before you learn it.
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I like it a lot, but then again I hate that the only weapon used for channeling magic in Dragon Age is a staff.



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I think it's a good idea for enemy mages. It'd be a good warning for them readying a powerful spell. 

 

'Inquisitor, that mage is is reading!'

'owww, sh*t'


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I'm confused. What's the assumption, here? Because there was an enemy spellcaster in the video with a floating book, that meant it was both a spellbook and that all casters would use spellbooks? Wouldn't it be better to ask if that was the case, rather than assume it was the case and rail against its supposed inclusion?


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#63
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I did get the DNDism vibe from it. Since DAO mages would be more akin to Sorcerers and not Wizards (speaking in DND terms).

Inherent Magical Ability vs. Learned Magical Ability

Does it bother me they have chosen to implement it? Not really...except for the fact most of the Circles are in disarray so grimoires/spell books might not be the norm. I can see it for Vivienne, though.

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Hopefully it will just be for a special move or something.


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I'm confused. What's the assumption, here? Because there was an enemy spellcaster in the video with a floating book, that meant it was both a spellbook and that all casters would use spellbooks? Wouldn't it be better to ask if that was the case, rather than assume it was the case and rail against its supposed inclusion?

Is it a spellbook, and do all casters use spellbooks?



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I'm confused. What's the assumption, here? Because there was an enemy spellcaster in the video with a floating book, that meant it was both a spellbook and that all casters would use spellbooks? Wouldn't it be better to ask if that was the case, rather than assume it was the case and rail against its supposed inclusion?


I think the assertion seems to be that the mere existence of floating spellbooks is ridiculous. It apparently doesn't fit the dark tone because...um...reasons?
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Magic on da is pew pew. There are no spells in the lore, only mage power and imagination. Mages in da are like x-men, like jedi, its their inborn power, not something anyone can learn like wizards in d&d.
Mage reading a book in combat is akin to an archer reading an archers manual to remember how they are supposed to handle the bow.

 

But how they utilize that power is a whole other story. 

And to me, it didn't look like the mage was reading from the book. It looked more like he was draining some power out of it. Hell, I don't know.

 

And if he was reading... a mage with amnesia!


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Magic on da is pew pew. There are no spells in the lore, only mage power and imagination. Mages in da are like x-men, like jedi, its their inborn power, not something anyone can learn like wizards in d&d.
Mage reading a book in combat is akin to an archer reading an archers manual to remember how they are supposed to handle the bow.

 

It depends on the spells.

 

We've already seen bits of reading before. With the Litany of Adralla. We've also seen more drawn out rituals, like the Harrowing, the Joining, Zathrian's curse, and various little quests like those malificarum grouped in the Brecillian forest, or the mages in Dawn of the Seeker.



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I'm confused. What's the assumption, here? Because there was an enemy spellcaster in the video with a floating book, that meant it was both a spellbook and that all casters would use spellbooks? Wouldn't it be better to ask if that was the case, rather than assume it was the case and rail against its supposed inclusion?

To be fair, questions like this tend to have a 50/50 chance of getting a straight answer... although it's probably closer to 30/70 against.  I'm not saying that everything needs to be spoiled while the game's release is still months away, but simply asking probably wouldn't have yielded any better results.  I notice you didn't actually answer the question in that post btw... :P

 

As for this topic, assuming it is a part of the player's repertoire, I doubt it'll prevent me from playing as a mage once or twice... I didn't really like the staff animations of DA2 but I played as a mage many times in that game.

 

Edit:  Close call there... less than a minute from being ninja'd...



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Is it a spellbook, and do all casters use spellbooks?

 

No, and no.


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No, and no.

Then what is the point of the book for this type of enemy spellcaster, if you don't mind my asking?


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No, and no.

 

A cookbook, then?  :wizard:


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I am excited about the possibility of spellbooks and wands... and hats, but wands especially.

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Then what is the point of the book for this type of enemy spellcaster, if you don't mind my asking?

 

You'll find out, though I promise you the answer is not very complicated.

 

Dragon Age already has the concept of grimoires (Flemeth had one, if you'll recall), but they're not required for spellcasting and the mage in the demo was not using one. It's not something which will come up.


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Hmmm, maybe the book is just a channeling item, similar to a staff?

 

 

 

Wait, never mind. The guy had a staff too...

 

Ok, from what I'm seeing, I see pages fluttering when he's casting spells, and when he does that short teleport thing, it's almost in a flurry of pages till he reforms at the next destination.