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[Hellion Rex]

You'll find out, though I promise you the answer is not very complicated.

Fair enough. Thank you for responding.

 

 

And lol, don't worry. BSN will make it much more complicated than it truly is.

[Hellion Rex]

I wonder if it's not so much a spellbook as much as a religious text? Based on the phrase "He will reign", maybe the book has a more religious significance to the cult, hence why this leader is holding it.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Aw, no books as mage option from the looks of thing.

[Hellion Rex]

Dragon Age already has the concept of grimoires (Flemeth had one, if you'll recall), but they're not required for spellcasting and the mage in the demo was not using one. It's not something which will come up.

Ok then, I'm betting on it being a more religious text then that the cult leader carries.

[zambingo]

Then what is the point of the book for this type of enemy spellcaster, if you don't mind my asking?

Variety?

Up until now;

Rogues got swords/ daggers/ maces/ bows. Warriors got greatswords/ longswords/ hammers/ maces/ shields. Mages got staves/ swords.

I day dream of possibilities like;

Mages get staves/ wands/ hands / spellbooks... magic blades too. Warriors get bows in addition to normal fare. Rogues can use shields etc.

Staves can be focused power. Wands can be finely tuned speed casting. Hands could be raw energy aoe/radius based. Spellbooks could be advanced control based powers.

[Hellion Rex]

Staves can be focused power. Wands can be finely tuned speed casting. Hands could be raw energy aoe/radius based. Spellbooks could be advanced control based powers.

Except Gaider just said the guy wasn't using this book to cast.

[AlanC9]

Hey, what video should I be looking at? I'm all set to get my rant on, but I don't remember seeing any floating books.

[Hellion Rex]

Hey, what video should I be looking at? I'm all set to get my rant on, but I don't remember seeing any floating books.

 

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[Hanako Ikezawa]

We'll find out even though it's not something which will come up?

We'll find out after October 6th.

[Mockingword]

I, too, am insecure about people knowing I play a game with spell books in it.

 

Enjoying games with features that others arbitrarily label as "childish" is my secret shame.

[zambingo]

Except Gaider just said the guy wasn't using this book to cast.

Well I didn't say that was what was happening. I said that was what I day dream about. There is a difference. :-)

[KainD]

NO. That effect is cool and relevant and it should stay.

Mages are intellectuals and intellectuals read books a lot. Using them in combat animations is very mage-like.

Mages are not by default intellectuals, they just use their spiritual muscles. Plenty of poorly educated mages in da.

[KainD]

It depends on the spells.

We've already seen bits of reading before. With the Litany of Adralla. We've also seen more drawn out rituals, like the Harrowing, the Joining, Zathrian's curse, and various little quests like those malificarum grouped in the Brecillian forest, or the mages in Dawn of the Seeker.

Rituals are just drawn out casting that requires more time and sometimes particular magic components.

[KainD]

Aw, no books as mage option from the looks of thing.

good.

[In Exile]

I'm confused. What's the assumption, here? Because there was an enemy spellcaster in the video with a floating book, that meant it was both a spellbook and that all casters would use spellbooks? Wouldn't it be better to ask if that was the case, rather than assume it was the case and rail against its supposed inclusion?

 

I guess the only real question is to mages us spellbooks to cast spells, rather than just learn spells, in the DA setting? We know that magic is learned from books e.g. Morrigan and Flemeth's grimoire. 

[KainD]

It's not spiritual or muscles either. It's Will. If I'm not mistaken, it's similar to being aware while you're dreaming.. shaping things consciously, by sheer will. But education hones that. We already know there's plenty of educational magic books in DA (like the ones you see in Witch Hunt). It's not like X-Men. There's still plenty of knowledge and discipline involved.

edit: Of course, weak or scared mages just go straight to the Fade and have demons grant them more power. I guess that doesn't take any discipline. Just desperation.

Their spiritual muscles that can be trained is called spell power, and it works exactly like strength only for spells.

Education in magic doesn't make a person an intellectual, no more than martial arts makes a warrior an intellectual.

[KainD]

I guess the only real question is to mages us spellbooks to cast spells, rather than just learn spells, in the DA setting? We know that magic is learned from books e.g. Morrigan and Flemeth's grimoire.

Magic can be learned on their own by any mage, just takes more time, and then they can write their own book.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

good.

Bad.

[YourFunnyUncle]

We'll find out even though it's not something which will come up?

 

Spellcasting with books will not come up. We'll find out what the book actually is.

[Cainhurst Crow]

I think it takes away "realism." Does a mage really have time to focus on a book in the middle of combat? Doesn't he know the spells when he keeps casting them over and over? Why does he need to look them up in a book every time?

 

"realism" in combat is a tricky thing to handle though. How far do you go exactly? Like how mages can't melee attack with staves, even when they have bladed ends.

[KainD]

Bad.

Do you really want to change the whole spell casting lore because to you a book looks cool?

[KainD]

"realism" in combat is a tricky thing to handle though. How far do you go exactly? Like how mages can't melee attack with staves, even when they have bladed ends.

Imo using a staff for mages in da setting is also silly.