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[zambingo]

Yeah, everyone is like "OMG you're a Mage!" And I'm like "this big stick didn't give it away?" Also Templars be like "I'm looking for apostates. Anyone seen apostates?" And I'm like "This stick is for walking. I have a medical condition. Please, disregard the fact no one but mages carry these."

[KainD]

Not everything is about power. There is the strength of the spell, and the imagination it takes to will things into being. The nature of the mage is someone who is aware, able to shape and create things like Demons and Spirits. How strong they are is only part of it. It's the "how" that's just as important. This is all shown to you in the very beginning of DAO's mage origin. It's not just about power.

Of course, you are right. But what does it have to do with books in the middle of combat? Do warriors read martial arts guide while swinging a sword?

[PlasmaCheese]

No floating spellbooks? Dang.

[DragonAgeLegend]

Because they don't think it fits the game's setting. Because they think it's ridicolous.
As I said, I couldn't care less about it, but I think people have the same rights of posting their hope that a feature they don't like is removed as people who want a certain feature to be included.

Thanks for this.

[Mockingword]

OH GOOD, THE REALISM ARGUMENT AGAIN.

[DragonAgeLegend]

I'm confused. What's the assumption, here? Because there was an enemy spellcaster in the video with a floating book, that meant it was both a spellbook and that all casters would use spellbooks? Wouldn't it be better to ask if that was the case, rather than assume it was the case and rail against its supposed inclusion?

Well I think it's a lot easier to rally against something than to ask numerous questions about what it was, since there'd most likely be more assumptions by the community.

 

I just never thought that Dragon Age was the type of game where anyone used "spellbooks" during active combat, whether it be an enemy or other and optional or not. 

 

The fact that something like that is in the game is off putting, nonetheless, If it IS implemented the people who don't like it would just have to ignore it since there's really nothing we can do... 

[Setiweb]

You'll find out, though I promise you the answer is not very complicated.

 

Dragon Age already has the concept of grimoires (Flemeth had one, if you'll recall), but they're not required for spellcasting and the mage in the demo was not using one. It's not something which will come up.

Not something which will come up as in it will be so obvious it wont be an issue, or as in the scene was specifically made for the video and wont be seen in-game?

[zambingo]

If I was a Mage in the DA universe first thing I'd do is put on pants. Okay maybe the second thing after looking down and seeing I wasn't wearing pants. Next thing I'd do is find a golem and crack a deal with them to ride them around like Yoda to Luke. Then I'd find some Iron Bark, wood, whatever, and make a wand. Then I'd go find Isabela so she could direct me to the bestest hat maker.

[myahele]

What if its an enchanted book? In Nier they had this talking magical book that used to be a person, but was later sealed in the book.

[Wrathion]

A spellbook would be cool as an alternate weapon. It's POSSIBLE for mages to use swords and cast (Arcane warriors in all, lets just ignore you having to sheath your weapons first though) so i dunno, spellblade? I'm tired of being limited to staves only.

 

If we could...just go without any weapon that would be great, really.

[myahele]

Mages can casts spells without the use of staffs or wands. I guess staves allows for better concentration of magic. The material it's made of can also increase magical damage.

[Zatche]

Well I think it's a lot easier to rally against something than to ask numerous questions about what it was, since there'd most likely be more assumptions by the community.

I just never thought that Dragon Age was the type of game where anyone used "spellbooks" during active combat, whether it be an enemy or other and optional or not.

The fact that something like that is in the game is off putting, nonetheless, If it IS implemented the people who don't like it would just have to ignore it since there's really nothing we can do...

How is it off putting? Do you not like the aesthetics of it? Does a magic book seem less practical than a magic stick? Do you associate floating magic books with another subgenre of fantasy and therefore should not be in a Dragon Age?

[ArtemisMoons]

Well I think it's a lot easier to rally against something than to ask numerous questions about what it was, since there'd most likely be more assumptions by the community.

 

I just never thought that Dragon Age was the type of game where anyone used "spellbooks" during active combat, whether it be an enemy or other and optional or not. 

 

The fact that something like that is in the game is off putting, nonetheless, If it IS implemented the people who don't like it would just have to ignore it since there's really nothing we can do... 

Wait, so instead of asking to figure out more information about a thing, you would much rather protest about something that may not be a truth? That is like yelling "DON'T EAT THAT! IT'S POISONOUS!" without any hint of it being poisonous just because it could be and people should know.

 

And just because you never thought DA series would use spellbooks in combat doesn't mean that they couldn't. And not only that, but DG JUST said that it wasn't a spellbook nor would the PC be using one, yet you still say "it's offputting to see something like that in the game". 

It's like you're crying wolf just to cry wolf despite being in the middle of suburbia no where near wolves. 

[Uirebhiril]

To be honest, when I saw the floating spellbook the first thing I thought of was that Disney-Fantasia-Mickey-Mouse-Sorcerer's-Apprentice scene. To my mind it was absurd and out of place, which is certainly saying something when you hack apart ogres and can make deals with demons in the game.

 

It did look cool, but... yeah.

 

The staff thing I can see as a way to note who is a mage to the player, but I'd be really glad if mages could stop running around in long skirts all the damn time. So you're a mage. Great. Is there some reason you can't wear regular pants and a shirt? Do the robes make it more magey?

 

I guess Solas and his long underwear change that up a bit...

[Zatche]

To be honest, when I saw the floating spellbook the first thing I thought of was that Disney-Fantasia-Mickey-Mouse-Sorcerer's-Apprentice scene. To my mind it was absurd and out of place, which is certainly saying something when you hack apart ogres and can make deals with demons in the game.

 

It did look cool, but... yeah.

 

The staff thing I can see as a way to note who is a mage to the player, but I'd be really glad if mages could stop running around in long skirts all the damn time. So you're a mage. Great. Is there some reason you can't wear regular pants and a shirt? Do the robes make it more magey?

 

I guess Solas and his long underwear change that up a bit...

The connection between this and Disney is in your own head. I don't think the devs should remove something, because of that.

 

As for the robes making it more magey, yes, it's following a familiar archetype, making it more accessible. And it's also balancing out the class system and justifying it in lore with: these robes give you more magical power. Of course a mage would prefer them to armor.

[KainD]

Mages can casts spells without the use of staffs or wands. I guess staves allows for better concentration of magic. The material it's made of can also increase magical damage.

Are you kidding right now?

[Tremere]

Like this.

X^D *\o/*

[Tremere]

If it's related to a mage acquiring a tome and learning it's contents, okay, but anything outside of that seems a bit over the top. I agree... "What mage has time to go into an animation like that in the middle of combat?" Of course, this whole subject could be redundant if the animation was simply a part of the trailer and not meant to reflect any part of the player/protagonist's experience.

[dragondreamer]

I've been side-eyeing the spell book animation ever since the first trailer.  I can justify it a little, but if the animation is too common it's gonna get annoying.  Makes me think they're kinda a lousy mage if they need to pull out a cheat sheet to work spells.  In the middle of a heated battle too, yeesh.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Do you really want to change the whole spell casting lore because to you a book looks cool?

Do I want to? Yes.

[Uirebhiril]

The connection between this and Disney is in your own head. I don't think the devs should remove something, because of that.

 

 

Yes; I'm aware it's in my own head. I don't care either way if they are in the game or not, but it did pull me from the moment to see it. I figure feedback is good, especially when the person giving the feedback isn't demanding a change based on their perception.

[Dabrikishaw]

I can't bring myself to care about spellbooks being here.

[General TSAR]

Please remove the Spellbook casting!

 

 

Unfortunately, BioWare is not going to do that.