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[CosmicGnosis]

http://www.dailymail...us-mankind.html

 

Just thought this was interesting, considering its relevance to ME3.

[teh DRUMPf!!]

 It'll be very interesting to see how AI develop in our world, and what impact they will have on our lives.

 

But based on what we do see/know of them in the Mass Effect universe, though, I have no idea how so many people shrug off synthetic/organic relations as if it is some kind of non-issue. Truly. It's caused more than enough problems while they've been relatively rare.

 

And given time to grow prominent? Well...

[SwobyJ]

Heavy risk... but the prize.

[KaiserShep]

Heavy risk... but the prize.

It was bound to happen.

[Steelcan]

lol Daily Mail

[ImaginaryMatter]

I always wondered if true AI could ever exist; that any such technology would have so many limits placed on it -- to avoid disaster -- that any created AI would be too restricted to resemble anything within the realms of science fiction.

[SwobyJ]

I always wondered if true AI could ever exist; that any such technology would have so many limits placed on it -- to avoid disaster -- that any created AI would be too restricted to resemble anything within the realms of science fiction.

 

Only until such limits are breached somehow, which is also an inevitability somewhere and sometime.

[Ryriena]

Really the Daily mail is a British tabloid.

[shodiswe]

Yeah, the new imigrant threat! They are going to steal our jobs! Get your pitchforks people!

[KaiserShep]

Yeah, the new imigrant threat! They are going to steal our jobs! Get your pitchforks people!

 

Immigants! I knew it was them! Even when it was the bears, I knew it was them!

[von uber]

"Hawking: A.I causes cancer, suspects also behind death of Diana and immigrants stealing benefits and jobs".

[KaiserShep]

AI's killed my wife!

 

[Sir DeLoria]

This article is so terribly written, wow. Also "biggest event in human history"? I can think of plenty more defining moments of humanity.

[BigglesFlysAgain]

Hawking has  also said discovering aliens would be a really really bad thing for humankind (which is probably true enough) worse than the spanish conquistadors,  so you can't have your cake and eat it with his statements on AI without also admitting the aliens in ME are an equal threat, thereby robbing the universe of most of its charm. (unless you support cerberus )

 

Playing through the series recently its impossible to deny there are many hooks to the threat of AI (too many to list), but its such a tired sci fi concept (even if still important today) most people probably don't pick up on it.

[shodiswe]

Hawking has  also said discovering aliens would be a really really bad thing for humankind (which is probably true enough) worse than the spanish conquistadors,  so you can't have your cake and eat it with his statements on AI without also admitting the aliens in ME are an equal threat, thereby robbing the universe of most of its charm. (unless you support cerberus )
 
Playing through the series recently its impossible to deny there are many hooks to the threat of AI (too many to list), but its such a tired sci fi concept (even if still important today) most people probably don't pick up on it.

There is always fear for that which is new. That's not to say new people can't be dangerous if they start protesting and burning cars because they don't think they are treated fairly.
Aliens, AI, Imigrants, strangers.... Unknown stuff.
So, yah it can be dangerous, but people can also make a bad situation even more dangerous.

[General TSAR]

SkyNet/MIR must be stopped. 

[SwobyJ]

Really the Daily mail is a British tabloid.

 

Continue looking, and you'll see the same story everywhere else.

 

 

Of course the Daily Mail sucks. That's not new.

[SwobyJ]

This article is so terribly written, wow. Also "biggest event in human history"? I can think of plenty more defining moments of humanity.

 

Creating AI, or at least the integration of true AI in human society, would be the biggest event in human history. Even bigger than going to Mars or whatever.

 

We wouldn't just be making life (cloning, gene engineering, etc), we'd be making life that is simultaneously similar, yet alien, yet capable of much faster and further evolution than us, yet also in the same environment as us.

 

It could in essence be another species at some point, which may or may not nudge us out of the earth just as homosapiens ended up doing that to other sapiens and species in its own way.

 

Keep in mind that 'event' does not = 'moment'. An event can last over years, as long as it is considered of a single occurrence.

[CosmicGnosis]

Sorry, I'm not familiar with British tabloids. So if the source is questionable, I'm sorry about that, but Hawking really did discuss the implications of artificial intelligence.

[Mcfly616]

I'm starting to understand why many scientists see Hawking as such a hack. Don't get me wrong. Great imagination. Entertaining stuff. Extremely intelligent. But he doesn't ever really present anything new. He comes out and just says stuff we already know. Just like his little announcement which got him back in the spotlight a few years back. "I was wrong, everybody else was right. Sorta."

Cool story, Steve.



Now, he's just warning of the coming technological singularity. Well duh. Obviously we should 'be careful' going into the unknown.





Mass Effect-wise, there's two separate forms of technological singularity in the ending. I find that pretty cool.

[von uber]

Sorry, I'm not familiar with British tabloids. So if the source is questionable, I'm sorry about that, but Hawking really did discuss the implications of artificial intelligence.

 

The Daily Mail has 4 obsessions:

 

Things which cause cancer

Immigration

Princess Diana

House prices

 

The Mail Online adds 'the sidebar of shame' which delights in showing how fat/thin the latest 'celebrity' is, along with disturbing images of girls looking 'all grown up'.

 

Hateful rag with it's roots in support of fascism, it's main purpose seems to be rile up a certain type of person and get them frothing at the mouth, usually at foreigners (whilst perving over young girls).

[BigglesFlysAgain]

It is or was the most popular online news website IIRC. It does seperate stories to the Uk newspaper, though the quality is likely similar.

 

 

Either way this thread is about hawkings comments which the mail is only reporting.

[Sir DeLoria]

Creating AI, or at least the integration of true AI in human society, would be the biggest event in human history. Even bigger than going to Mars or whatever.
 
We wouldn't just be making life (cloning, gene engineering, etc), we'd be making life that is simultaneously similar, yet alien, yet capable of much faster and further evolution than us, yet also in the same environment as us.
 
It could in essence be another species at some point, which may or may not nudge us out of the earth just as homosapiens ended up doing that to other sapiens and species in its own way.
 
Keep in mind that 'event' does not = 'moment'. An event can last over years, as long as it is considered of a single occurrence.

The question is really how you define a "biggest event in human history". If you're looking for an event that defined humanity as a whole, then it certainly isn't. However, I find the whole concept of that term so incredibly vague and somewhat ignorant that it just shouldn't be taken seriously.

This term has no right to exist

[SwobyJ]

The question is really how you define a "biggest event in human history". If you're looking for an event that defined humanity as a whole, then it certainly isn't. However, I find the whole concept of that term so incredibly vague and somewhat ignorant that it just shouldn't be taken seriously.

This term has no right to exist

 

Biggest event in human history != event that defined humanity as a whole, so I don't know why you said that.

[Farangbaa]

Not a single mention of indoctrination?