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From the trailer it looks really amazing (good work BioWare, as always :)).

I haven't played the previous DA games, and I wanted to know if it's okay for me to play it.

Will I understand what the game is talking about? Will I miss some important things?

To sum up, is it friendly for newcomers?



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Bioware has said several times that they are trying to make the game really accessible for newcomers to the series, so I think you should be okay :)

You can use 'Bioware's canon' for playing Inquisition, or if you would like to try your hand at making your own 'world state' you can always take a look at the Dragon Age Keep when it comes out later this year.
Dragon age also has an extensive Wiki, which explains various aspects of the game's settings if you are interested: http://dragonage.wik...Dragon_Age_Wiki
And aside from the that, the game itself should offer you plenty of codex entries to read through, questions to ask NPCs and details on Thedas' background and lore.

There's a lot to learn - several playthroughs later and I still learn new things - but the knowledge really does enhance the game experience, for me at least. ;)
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Well, we don't know enough yet to say for sure, but Bioware is typically good about making sure you get the gist of all the major stuff. Still, I would suggest playing DAO and DAII first. I lost my copy of DAO a while back and bought a used copy last week for about $5 so that I could build some good backgrounds, and I don't think DAII would be too expensive either. You have 5 months to play through both if you like. It isn't mandatory, but chances are you'll lack insight on a lot of character development / political nuance / Thedas history if you don't.


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Dragon Age is a franchise where every game has a new protagonist. So unlike games like Witcher, you can start from any game you want. So yes, you can play Inquisition as a newcomer. Having said that, I recommendplaying Origins at least(you can get it for 20$ on Origin I believe) in the mean while. It's a great game and has a lot to offer. 



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I think XmissWooX sumed it up very well but you could try the books as well .



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I think you should be okay. I started Mass Effect from ME2 and I don't think even that made the playing worse. I think you can quite easily catch up what's happening around you even if you start from a scratch. Personally I want play everything in Dragon Age, read all novels and watch movie.. everything before the game XD But that's just me, it's not something you have to do although it does to give more insight in the game.



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According to BioWare, you should be fine - they've designed it to be a good entry point to the series. The protagonist and most of the characters are new, so it's not like - for example - Mass Effect where the player character could have had a bunch of adventures you've never heard about.

 

You'll probably miss some in-jokes and be less excited by a few of the cameos, but it's a whole new storyline.



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From the trailer it looks really amazing (good work BioWare, as always :)).
I haven't played the previous DA games, and I wanted to know if it's okay for me to play it.
Will I understand what the game is talking about? Will I miss some important things?
To sum up, is it friendly for newcomers?


We have no idea, having not played it ourselves.

I'm going to guess that the game assumes you know some things before you play. For example 'what's a qunari?' and 'what is the Chantry?' might be good ones.

According to BioWare, you should be fine - they've designed it to be a good entry point to the series.


They said the same about Mass Effect 3. A game in which major plot lines revolved around the geth/quarian resolution and the Krogan genophage. The geth/quarian thing was given an explination before you had to make any choice (though this was still several hours into that storyline) but history of the genophage is never properly explained in the game. The Salarians come off as far more evil than if you know that Krogans not only breed like crazy but have gone on genocidal rampages previously.
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Most of the story of the Rachni, the Krogan Rebellion and the genophage is explained in the codex though.

 

EDIT: Oh, and EDI explains the high birthrate of the Krogan race too.



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Yeah, but there's a difference between reading about events in the codex and experiencing them firsthand.



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EmperorSahlertz

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Of course there is. But then again, playing as the Inquisitor you shouldn't have any knowledge of the events of the Warden or Hawke anyway.

 

The only thing a newcomer to the franchise may miss out on, is a few reference he might not get, and not understand the importance of a few cameos. Otherwise nothing gamebreaking.



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I played DA2 before Origins and the only thing I couldn't understand were references to the Wardens (which were very few).

It shouldn't be a problem but since old characters are returning with significant roles it will be hard to say.



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I didn't really pay attention to the other games as much. It's great that this is the best point to jump into the series though. I'm not so brushed up on the past events, so I guess it's an equalizer between all players to make it more fun for everyone.

 

 

That's actually pretty cool of Bioware.



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I played DA2 before Origins and got along fine, in fact it made Origins more enjoyable to discover all the things first hand i'd only heard about. I did the same with Mass Effect 2 as well.

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I think it will be fine but I would play the first to games (or at least origins) because it's more fun when you know all the back stories in my opinion. Plus hang around here, I didn't know much outside of stuff learned in-game before I joined but there are some really knowledgeable people on here. Then of course there is the Wiki and all the various books and comics they have released. 

 

 I always found that even in DAO people would have a go at you for asking about allot of stuff in conversation (because your character should already know) but all the information was there and you didn't need it to play the game. I quite liked the history lessons we got in a few of the origin stories that involved telling your family/the Dalish people's history to some kids. 



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We have no idea, having not played it ourselves.

I'm going to guess that the game assumes you know some things before you play. For example 'what's a qunari?' and 'what is the Chantry?' might be good ones.
 

 

Well the Chantry isn't hard to work out and we have to remember that most of Thedas knows very little about the Qunari, so you could get away with not knowing much about them even if you are one. 



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These games aren't exactly meant to be related to each other (certainly not in the way the ME games are), so each game is, for all intents and purposes, its own entry.

 

That said, if I were you, I would try and play at least DA:O before getting your hands on DA:I. I don't think you'd miss too much by skipping out on DA2, although it does help with setting the stage for the Mage-Templar conflict.



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Maria Caliban

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Most of the story of the Rachni, the Krogan Rebellion and the genophage is explained in the codex though.


Yes, if a new player spends time reading wikipedia entries, they also get to understand the setting. That doesn't make it newcomer friendly though.

Well the Chantry isn't hard to work out and we have to remember that most of Thedas knows very little about the Qunari, so you could get away with not knowing much about them even if you are one.


Newbquisitor: *picks awesome looking horned race for PC*
Newbquisitor: *meets NPC*
NPC: You evil qunari bastard! I hate you all! *runs away*
Newbquisitor: D:
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Since Inquisition isn't part of a continuing character arc, there should be no reason why it'd be a poor entry point into the series. It could be part of a long-term World Narrative however. I don't think the pieces are quite together yet for it to matter.

 

Of course, you won't get any of the <Squeeeee~!> or [Heavy Breathing] Moments that Dragon Age veterans will get. Example: Leliana Reveal in said trailer.



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Most of the story of the Rachni, the Krogan Rebellion and the genophage is explained in the codex though.

 

EDIT: Oh, and EDI explains the high birthrate of the Krogan race too.

How many people that come into a series in the third game with no desire to play the previous installments are the type to pour over the codex entries?



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You can play Inquisition without playing the previous games, but I strongly suggest that you do.



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EmperorSahlertz

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How many people that come into a series in the third game with no desire to play the previous installments are the type to pour over the codex entries?

If they don't want to read the codex, then why are they caring about the backstory in the first place?



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I imagine it'll be fairly easy to get into and understand without playing the others. You'll probably get the opportunity to ask ingame about something that doesn't make sense.

 

Of course, you have 5 months(is that right) to go until it's out and Origins and 2 aren't to expensive, so you may as well pick them up and try get at least 1 playthrough out of it. That way at least, when you use the Dragon's Keep to create a World State, you'll have alot more context behind the choices.



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Dragon age Origins is one of the best games ever created imho. Id recommend playing that through at the very least, and maybe just read up a summary on DA2.

I think you'll be fine either way, altho. I just hope that they don't go too far. It honestly bothers me A LOT when the game makes you feel like it's treating you like an idiot because it has to explain everything that you already know. And then you get characters that are meant for the newcomers that barely have anything to them whatsoever since they don't have any time to grow. I mean, you don't watch lord of the rings 3 and just expect to know EVERYTHING. Sure, you'll catch up on the plot, but there will still be a lot of holes in it if you haven't watched the previous ones.

 

  ME3 felt like it went WAY too far in that direction. I didn't feel like I was playing my Shepard at all, and the new characters felt so out of place. I yelled at the screen at times because Shepard said such stupid things at times.

I understand that they want to branch out and sell as much as possible, but it just really bothers me when it detracts from the game for everyone who have followed the series from the beginning. If you walk into the third part of a trilogy, then you only have yourself to blame when you don't get what's going on tbh. 

But I think that you'll be fine in this case, since the protagonist changes.

 

 DA:O - Awakening expansion + DLC's = Grey Warden

DA2 + DLC's = Hawke 

DA:inqusition = Inquisitor.

 

  So, it wont be that bad I suppose. You might just miss out on some cameos. If you end up meeting Leliana for instance, but even so. The inquisitor wouldn't know who Leliana was either way, so it doesn't matter all that much I suppose.



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I'd suggest flicking through the wiki to see how stuff works in the Dragon Age world, like mages, templars, the Qunari, all that stuff. It's usually pretty reliable and it won't be you going in blind.