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[Mrs_Stick]

I liked blasto. In a setting where everything is supposed to be so serious you need a little humor.

[Iakus]

Isn't the butt of the Blasto film gag the formulaic nature of action films and the trashiness of pop culture, rather than the alien performers?

And the elcor acting gag goes back to ME1. Except there it was supposed to be a serious artistic statement; I thought that was almost as funny as Blasto.

I think the gag is the idea that such a polite and deferential species like the hanar could be in an action film with such a blunt, iconoclastic protagonist

 

And I thought the elcor Shakespeare thing was an ME2 joke as well?

[shodiswe]

Shepard can also express suprise that asari can mate with other asari.

Shepard can be both an idiot and sometimes remarkably clearsighted, considering...

[Vortex13]

Isn't the butt of the Blasto film gag the formulaic nature of action films and the trashiness of pop culture, rather than the alien performers?

And the elcor acting gag goes back to ME1. Except there it was supposed to be a serious artistic statement; I thought that was almost as funny as Blasto.

 

 

I think the gag is the idea that such a polite and deferential species like the hanar could be in an action film with such a blunt, iconoclastic protagonist

 

And I thought the elcor Shakespeare thing was an ME2 joke as well?

 

 

It has more to do with the fact that it was only the Elcor, the Hanar, and the Volus placed in those scenarios. They became stereotyped as the comedic races, disregarding their unique cultures, outlooks and general non-human way of doing things.

 

I have nothing against humor in BioWare titles (though the Citadel DLC was over the top IMO), but in real life if one particular group of people was typecast in a stereotypical manner it wouldn't go over too well.

[AlanC9]

 

And I thought the elcor Shakespeare thing was an ME2 joke as well?

 

Right. There's an elevator ad in ME1 when the production is upcoming, and a Citadel commercial in ME2 when it's on stage.

[I Tsunayoshi I]

Right. There's an elevator ad in ME1 when the production is upcoming, and a Citadel commercial in ME2 when it's on stage.

 

And another about it getting the ME version of a DVD release in 3 I think.

[AlanC9]

It has more to do with the fact that it was only the Elcor, the Hanar, and the Volus placed in those scenarios. They became stereotyped as the comedic races, disregarding their unique cultures, outlooks and general non-human way of doing things.

 

 

 Yes, MEU humans are disregarding the unique cultures, outlooks, and so forth. Which is exactly the point. Humans  -- no way that's an asari production -- plug aliens into their own collection of idiotic tropes, and it's a hit.

 

The comedy race there is the humans, not the performers.

[Kel Riever]

I thought the comedy 'race' was pyjaks?

 

And then you shoot them....

[Jukaga]

The best way to avoid the cringing headaches of the Rannoch arc is to never meet Legion. Sell his chassis to Cerberus and then it's easy to explain everything this douchebag robot is telling you in ME3 as misdirction and lies and annihilate the lot of them and get on with the war.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

And the Asari were written in the codex as one thing, and presented as pole dancers.

[Obadiah]

I wonder how the Asari would have been recieved if they had all their existing traits, but with male bodies and voices.

Synthesis should enable that.

[Iakus]

The best way to avoid the cringing headaches of the Rannoch arc is to never meet Legion. Sell his chassis to Cerberus and then it's easy to explain everything this douchebag robot is telling you in ME3 as misdirction and lies and annihilate the lot of them and get on with the war.

I hate it when stuff like that is the most logical answer....

[Jukaga]

I hate it when stuff like that is the most logical answer....

It's my 'canon' for my favorite Shepard, the thoughtful bad-ass infiltrator Svetlana Shepard. It's quite satisfying for me and I like Tali's no nonsense hate-on for the Geth in ME3 because of it. As an easter-egg, you get to pop the geth at Cerberus HQ later on.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

I wonder how the Asari would have been recieved if they had all their existing traits, but with male bodies and voices.

Synthesis should enable that.

My femShep would have boffed them.

[Kel Riever]

No one ever complains about big chumok alien beatface type.

 

Are we okay with that trope but not another?

 

Yes...I call shenanigans...

[teh DRUMPf!!]

Shepard can also express suprise that asari can mate with other asari.

 

But in this case (geth's Dyson Sphere as a Reaper) it would be a pretty strong point.

 

Reapers upload their memories into this giant megastructure.

 

And again, if the geth wanted to keep this 'structure safe from outside threats...

[Iakus]

 

And again, if the geth wanted to keep this 'structure safe from outside threats...

 

By that logic, Arcturus Station is a Reaper.

[Obadiah]

But in this case (geth's Dyson Sphere as a Reaper) it would be a pretty strong point.
 
Reapers upload their memories into this giant megastructure.
 
And again, if the geth wanted to keep this 'structure safe from outside threats...

The Geth must have known it would be a weak point when designing it. It is sort of obvious when one thinks about it. What kind of risk assessment do you think they had to justify it's structure? Whatever it was, even with intel from Legion's travels, obviously it neither properly took into account the Quarian's potential creativity and attack, nor the potential loss from any successful attack on the structure.

And yet, even with the Reaper upgrades, they were still willing to not fire on the Quarians when they had the chance. Why? Benevolence? A default position of non-hostility? Only option to survive the ongoing Reaper invasion?

If the Geth do survive the Destroy wave, I wonder how they would assess the dangers of organics after the war? In Control, the Shep Reaper can keep them in line, in Synthesis they gain understanding and the Organic/Synthetic power imbalance shifts, but in Destroy...

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

It's a writer thing. Chris L'etoile didn't see the Dyson Sphere as a weakness. He saw it as a strength for the Geth. When he left, his entire ideas for the Geth left with him. Different writers took over and got their ideas from Super Mac. Suddenly their alien nature left and they wanted to be human. Clothes make the boy. Legion started to malfunction and wanted to be human. Maybe they should have called him Mal in ME3.

[Obadiah]

A Dyson's Sphere is a centralized base in a location locked to that of the star it surrounds. It would be a massive surface area to defend, and it is not as if it could be moved when under attack. Any damage it sustains puts the whole structure at risk of collapsing into the star. It is a weakness under either writer - unless it had one of those Death Star cannons, and then, well, there's the Reaper analogy.

[I Tsunayoshi I]

A Dyson's Sphere is a centralized base in a location locked to that of the star it surrounds. It would be a massive surface area to defend, and it is not as if it could be moved when under attack. Any damage it sustains puts the whole structure at risk of collapsing into the star. It is a weakness under either writer - unless it had one of those Death Star cannons, and then, well, there's the Reaper analogy.

 

The geth structure isnt even a true Dyson Sphere. Compared to one, but it isnt anywhere close to the size needed.

[DeinonSlayer]

The geth structure isnt even a true Dyson Sphere. Compared to one, but it isnt anywhere close to the size needed.

Its map description says it's more analogous to a bubble than a solid shell. We don't know how much of Tikkun's output it would ultimately have absorbed when finished because it was only about 1/3rd complete at time of destruction; build enough statites and it would have the same optical and thermal properties of a shell at a small fraction of the mass (which is to say a bubble configuration, depending on how dense it is, can absorb up to 100% of its host star's output).

A whole lot of problems could have been avoided had they simply built it around another star. Another subject I'd have liked the option to bring up.

[KaiserShep]

Its map description says it's more analogous to a bubble than a solid shell. We don't know how much of Tikkun's output it would ultimately have absorbed when finished because it was only about 1/3rd complete at time of destruction; build enough statites and it would have the same optical and thermal properties of a shell at a small fraction of the mass (which is to say a bubble configuration, depending on how dense it is, can absorb up to 100% of its host star's output).

A whole lot of problems could have been avoided had they simply built it around another star. Another subject I'd have liked the option to bring up.

 

Heck the heretics didn't even bother setting up the old quarian space station near a star. They just parked it in the Sea of Storms, far out of the way of any starship traffic. But yeah, the geth could have simply taken all of their stuff and simply headed out to a star that had no planets, thus leaving little reason for explorers to go there. Even if the quarians wanted to pursue them and finally destroy them (which I'm almost certain that they would), aside from the difficulty of tracking them down in the first place, they'd probably be too preoccupied kissing Rannoch's soil.

[DeinonSlayer]

Heck the heretics didn't even bother setting up the old quarian space station near a star. They just parked it in the Sea of Storms, far out of the way of any starship traffic. But yeah, the geth could have simply taken all of their stuff and simply headed out to a star that had no planets, thus leaving little reason for explorers to go there. Even if the quarians wanted to pursue them and finally destroy them (which I'm almost certain that they would), aside from the difficulty of tracking them down in the first place, they'd probably be too preoccupied kissing Rannoch's soil.

They didn't attack the Geth until their only alternative was facing the Reapers in space with their entire civilian populace on board. Tali lists off their reasons for not doing so earlier if you choose certain dialogue options at the console in her loyalty mission (the agreement with the Council is not one of them). Suffice to say, a lot of the fight stands to drain out of them with Rannoch back in their hands. I question if they'd pursue the Geth when doing so would likely provoke retaliation which would end them completely. There would be those who would want to fight, but I doubt they'd be a majority.

If the Geth actually opened up and talked then instead of letting the heretics do their talking for them, it'd be even less likely to happen.

[shodiswe]

Everything would have been a lot easier if "people" would have talked to each other. When the Geth tried to talk to the Quarians they ignored them and just tried to kill them. The more they talked the more ruthless and stressed the Quarians got in their search for a more expedient Geth deactivation.

The Quarians could have listened more and talked more.

Sure, the Geth could have tried it after the Quarians had left, but I have a feeling it feelt fairly risky given the trackrecord they had with talking to the Quarians.
Every other Organic species in the galaxy had brought everything they had right outside the Relay into Geth space. In that situation it might actualy be better to play dead than to risk arrousing the hornets nest and have them panick and start stampeding through Geth space.

What's trickier would be their silence after the Heretic attack aiding Sovereign. Then again, even if you brought Legion before the council in ME2 the council wasn't prepared to listen to or belive Legion. They even questioned wether or not Legion was an actual Geth Representative or representative of the other Geth's views. Or a real Geth at all.
The council didn't seem to care that much either. All the council wanted was for them to stay out of "Council" space. Just as they wanted Shepard to stay out of Council space as much as possible.

Everyone in this fictional galaxy seems to be suffering from serious communication problems and stupidity. Though I guess that's natural if you look at our world.