Now you need someone neutral to both sides that can truly keep the peace. That would be hard because Geth aahhh its an AI and then Quarians" those suit rats unleashed the Geth" No matter what you do there will be problems.
that would be one long interview process.True, however we could find someone who is neutral on these issues like say Kaiden. We've only talked to a small number of people in the MEU as well.
Now you need someone neutral to both sides that can truly keep the peace. That would be hard because Geth aahhh its an AI and then Quarians" those suit rats unleashed the Geth" No matter what you do there will be problems.
The Turians would be the ideal party. If the mediating fleet gets sent, the Turians in it wouldn't be disobeying orders even if they were biased to one side.
One person can't do it.
Yes no Ashley, in the convoy someone whom a lot more able to handle this mediation. I too agree that the Turians would be a good solution too this problem.that would be one long interview process.
And Ash would NOT be allowed to keep that peace. I think she would just blow up the Geth anyway.
Where would you have them put the sphere? Geth controlled space used to be controlled by Quarians. I can't see the Quarians not attacking it no matter where it is. Even if it wasn't over Rannoch they still would have gone after it imo.
Why not biuld it in the system that we go to for Legions loyalty mission?
The same Turians who mustered dreadnoughts to bomb the Quarians off of the last world they tried to settle?Yes no Ashley, in the convoy someone whom a lot more able to handle this mediation. I too agree that the Turians would be a good solution too this problem.
Between stars?Why not biuld it in the system that we go to for Legions loyalty mission?
Why not biuld it in the system that we go to for Legions loyalty mission?
Between stars?
Wasn't the system the Sea of Storms? It was in the middle of nowhere that had no planets that no one would give a second thought about. I say it would be a perfect location for the Geth to build their sphere.
They were between stars in the middle of nowhere. Not sure what they'd use for a power source, but yeah, picking one of the many uninhabited and uninhabitable star systems they had to choose from would have been an ideal location for their sphere. Pick a system filled with rubble, such as one where planets are only starting to accrete, and they'd have a near-endless supply of easily-harvested construction material to work with.Wasn't the system the Sea of Storms? It was in the middle of nowhere that had no planets that no one would give a second thought about. I say it would be a perfect location for the Geth to build their sphere.
The Geth wouldn't want a completely empty starsystem. They would want a system that's got building materials and proximity to other systems with materials and resources they need.
From a supply standpoint I'm guessing that Rannoch was at the centre of their old supply network. It was a logical choice for a massive construction project, from a logistical standpoint. The Geth would ofcourse pick the most logical and efficient approach rather than transporting material to a dead starsystem with no useful resources. No factories or rawmaterials.
There's still plenty of systems without garden worlds and of no use to organics (let alone quarians) that could have been used
There's still plenty of systems without garden worlds and of no use to organics (let alone quarians) that could have been used
It wouldn't have made any difference. The reason the quarians attacked the geth was because they finally had the advantage with Xen's weapon
...and they tried to use it. Just read the codex entry if you stop the upload
The geth command-and-control network was now in tatters, their forces separated by vast distances. The quarians hunted them like animals. It
was not a one-sided victory -- despite vast losses, the geth staged a tireless defense -- but it was final.
The quarians really wanted the geth gone forever, even after Rannoch was secured.
It wouldn't have made any difference. The reason the quarians attacked the geth was because they finally had the advantage with Xen's weapon
...and they tried to use it. Just read the codex entry if you stop the upload
The geth command-and-control network was now in tatters, their forces separated by vast distances. The quarians hunted them like animals. It
was not a one-sided victory -- despite vast losses, the geth staged a tireless defense -- but it was final.
The quarians really wanted the geth gone forever, even after Rannoch was secured.
Can't blame them. Look at how quickly they multiplied on the Alerei in ME2. It'd be like the rachni; it wouldn't take long for another geth resurgence if there were even a handful of intelligences to start again.
Uh, no. As I explained before, they didn't attack until their only alternative was to face the Reapers in space with their entire civilian populace on board. The Quarians' backs were against the wall, and with Legion having stopped responding, they were back to the original state of affairs. They were fighting an enemy whose recorded behavior for the last three centuries was to shoot any organic they encountered on sight.It wouldn't have made any difference. The reason the quarians attacked the geth was because they finally had the advantage with Xen's weapon
...and they tried to use it. Just read the codex entry if you stop the uploadThe geth command-and-control network was now in tatters, their forces separated by vast distances. The quarians hunted them like animals. It
was not a one-sided victory -- despite vast losses, the geth staged a tireless defense -- but it was final.
The quarians really wanted the geth gone forever, even after Rannoch was secured.
If the Geth had built that bubble around another star system and left Rannoch, I seriously doubt that the Quarians would even bother to look for them. The civilian fleet did not want war, and you realize that is probably around 16.5 million people out of the 17 million. I would hazard to guess that a good portion of the heavy fleet didn't want war with the geth either, but were just following their orders like many of our own soldiers don't want war.
Once back on their home world they would be too preoccupied rebuilding their civilization to go after the Geth. That's my opinion.
Like real estate it's location location location.
Exactly. They'd be cannibalizing a good deal of their fleet in the process of resettlement anyway (per Tali in ME2). Even if there were still those who wanted to hunt down the Geth (I have no doubt some would), they'd be reigned in by those who, having only just established themselves, wouldn't want to provoke retaliation on a scale which would likely mean their final extinction.If the Geth had built that bubble around another star system and left Rannoch, I seriously doubt that the Quarians would even bother to look for them. The civilian fleet did not want war, and you realize that is probably around 16.5 million people out of the 17 million. I would hazard to guess that a good portion of the heavy fleet didn't want war with the geth either, but were just following their orders like many of our own soldiers don't want war.
Once back on their home world they would be too preoccupied rebuilding their civilization to go after the Geth. That's my opinion.
Like real estate it's location location location.
If the Geth had built that bubble around another star system and left Rannoch, I seriously doubt that the Quarians would even bother to look for them. The civilian fleet did not want war, and you realize that is probably around 16.5 million people out of the 17 million. I would hazard to guess that a good portion of the heavy fleet didn't want war with the geth either, but were just following their orders like many of our own soldiers don't want war.
Once back on their home world they would be too preoccupied rebuilding their civilization to go after the Geth. That's my opinion.
Like real estate it's location location location.
Nuremberg destroyed the excuse of following orders as a means of avoiding doing something wrong. If the Fleets didnt like the orders being handed down, they could and should have objected on the obvious moral grounds in front of them. By not doing so, they showed their approval for said orders.
It wouldn't have made any difference. The reason the quarians attacked the geth was because they finally had the advantage with Xen's weapon
...and they tried to use it. Just read the codex entry if you stop the upload
The geth command-and-control network was now in tatters, their forces separated by vast distances. The quarians hunted them like animals. It
was not a one-sided victory -- despite vast losses, the geth staged a tireless defense -- but it was final.
The quarians really wanted the geth gone forever, even after Rannoch was secured.
And if the geth had pulled up stakes and gone to another star, one without organic presence, they would have been gone and the quarians would have no way to track them
Space is freaking BIG!
If the Geth had built that bubble around another star system and left Rannoch, I seriously doubt that the Quarians would even bother to look for them. The civilian fleet did not want war, and you realize that is probably around 16.5 million people out of the 17 million. I would hazard to guess that a good portion of the heavy fleet didn't want war with the geth either, but were just following their orders like many of our own soldiers don't want war.
Once back on their home world they would be too preoccupied rebuilding their civilization to go after the Geth. That's my opinion.
Like real estate it's location location location.
Pretty sure we've been over the logistics argument before. They can't divide the fleet, protect and feed everyone at the same time. They can't do the work they need to be doing in this war if they can't split up. Even before the war, the fleet depended on external infrastructure for basic survival. With the Reapers here, this infrastructure is being rapidly destroyed.Speculation for everyone :)But I think it really doesn't make any sense to dump all your civilians on a planet in the middle of the reaper war...undefended. They would be safer on their three liveships...just hold them back in battle (three ships won't make a difference anyway). I mean, at least if they stay on ships they have a chance of running away if the reapers show up in force. Because if the reapers show up on Rannoch, you've just lost ALL your civilians.I think they finally had the advantage with Xen's weapon and used it. And that is the reason they attacked.
Nuremberg destroyed the excuse of following orders as a means of avoiding doing something wrong. If the Fleets didnt like the orders being handed down, they could and should have objected on the obvious moral grounds in front of them. By not doing so, they showed their approval for said orders.
Perhaps they didn't have Nuremberg on Rannoch? You are judging the Quarians by human standards and that is being racist.
Speculation for everyone
But I think it really doesn't make any sense to dump all your civilians on a planet in the middle of the reaper war...undefended. They would be safer on their three liveships...just hold them back in battle (three ships won't make a difference anyway). I mean, at least if they stay on ships they have a chance of running away if the reapers show up in force. Because if the reapers show up on Rannoch, you've just lost ALL your civilians.
I think they finally had the advantage with Xen's weapon and used it. And that is the reason they attacked.
The problem with that is if those liveships come under attack, the Quarians have to take a ship or two to defend the liveship weakening their attack against the Geth. The geth will exploit that weakness and go in for the kill.
I think they finally had the advantage with Xen's weapon and used it. And that is the reason they attacked.
Perhaps they didn't have Nuremberg on Rannoch? You are judging the Quarians by human standards and that is being racist.
Except that trial proved that no man, woman, alien, or whatever could ever use the excuse of 'just following orders' as a means to avoid the blame for any wrongdoing they did as a result of following bad and immoral orders.
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