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My hypothesis on the main "Villain's" identity, purpose, and conflict in Inquisition


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The Tevinter Imperium.  Someone high up in that clique will be responsible.  In the books, the mages frustration was explained this way: Mage are kept hidden away and controlled during times of peace; something to be wary of and protected against. But when all hell breaks loose they are the saving grace; the toast of the town. 

 

I think the idea here is to provoke a calamity so great that people will BEG for mages to intervene.  They will run to the magisters of the Tevinter Imperium for protection and help.  And once the empire puts down the threat, people will willingly serve them across Thedas.

 

It's all a conspiracy to have the mages rise to power permanently.


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Judging by the E3 demo, I think my idea is kinda right



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Not to rain on anyone's parade but I do not see it for one simple reason:  The chaos which is happening in Thedas right now seems to be A. Reallllyyy good timing or B. orchestrated.  And I don't know it just strikes me if this villain is in the least bit benevolent he would not open a tear in the Veil right when Thedas is at its weakest.  The most powerful Nation in the world is going through a Civil War, the Tevinter Imperium looks to be on the rise, the Mages and the Templars are in bitter conflict, and the Red Templars are causing all sorts of problems.  And let us not forget this force created the Breach during the middle of a peace conference betwen mages and Templars in the first place.  This does not strike me as benevolent, or misunderstood, or is a man with a plan.  After all, demons are pouring out of said breach.  So why now?  Why do it when Thedas is in such turmoil?  If 'he' can open the Breach in the first place that means he has power, why has he not tried to stop the chaos or the death?  And if he is orcehstrating all of the events, especially all the way back to the Fifth Blight as some have suggested then he is just...bad.  Even IF he has a good sunshine and rainbows end game for all this chaos and death he is causing, he is still a bad bad dude.  A mustache twirley villain even.  Sure he might have his reasons, and they might even be complicated, but does his actions in getting to that goal strike you as being good?



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I don't know: There is still an issue of, well, an entity, at the end of the Masked Empire...


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For now , I'm thinking Corypheus.

This guy walked the fade by butchering thousand of people.

The veil is probably tearing after everyone died at the Peace Talk.

So he would know the spell to do something like that .

Besides he can send his soul into wardens , so he could have went back to Tevinter with a new body .

 

I think he has his reason , he's looking for the "light" , something he thought was in the Golden city.

The chantry also has the Chant of Light.

And well Morrigan says darkness was closing in .

And that statue in DAO was also scared of Darkness...

 

I mean I'm not sure the darkness is just the Blight/taint.



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I agree with the Corypheus Hypothesis. Tevinter is going to have a far more proactive Role and after what we saw in the Demo - that a Tevinter Magister had taken over Redcliffe Castle while it was already ravaged by the Breach I believe that they have at least had a Hand in this, since they so obviously seem to profit of it.

 

Personally, I think it could be another tevintri Attempt to invade the golden/black City. Corypheus is back and he is mightily pissed. He was one of these first Magisters and he said, the City was already tainted. And maybe our resident big Bad is the ... Thing ... that was responsible for tainting the golden City in the first Place and thus too responsible for creating the Darkspawn... which could also explain what extended Role the Grey Wardens have to play, if they're really up to something... agh... getting into wishful thinking right about now...


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I believe that the main "villain" is connected to the Venatori. He is a misunderstood antagonist, who's goal is to end the mage/non-mage conflict permanently by turning every mundane being on Thedas into Mages.

 

This is because magic cannot be taken away without causing tranquility, and new mages will be born. He will do this by getting rid of the veil, so he can expose every mundane, none-magical being in Thedas to magic. Making the "change" that we have been hearing about from Sandal, and other characters like Morrigan, and Flemeth, possible.

 

I will tell you why he is a male. But first read Sandal's prophecy, and watch the Dragon Age Inquisition Pax Demo 24:34

 

Sandal says: "When he rises, everyone will see."

This of course can be referring to the Inquisitor who can be male or female, but the inquisitor isn't the one who caused the veil tear, or the one making this change in the world. He's trying to find the guy doing this.

 

During the pax demo, the Venatori Enchanter yelled out: "He will reign!"

 

We don't know what caused the veil tear, but we do know that the inquisitor was there, and that he has a choice; to stand against the closing darkness/change, or leave this world to its bitter "end"/ to accept the change

 

You know, it would be just peachy if you'd actually link videos when giving examples. There have been 2 PAX videos that I know of. One's from 2013, and the other is from 2014. You're kind of making it extremely difficult for me to find out which one you're talking about.



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Demons did it. Probably some mage like Anders got it up that the only way was to force action and made a deal with one of the Boss Demons, and things happened. And here we are.


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Another vote for Corypheus from me.

 

I do like your theory but I just don't think we know enough about the Venatori to really make assumptions about them as of yet. 



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The Tevinter Imperium.  Someone high up in that clique will be responsible.  In the books, the mages frustration was explained this way: Mage are kept hidden away and controlled during times of peace; something to be wary of and protected against. But when all hell breaks loose they are the saving grace; the toast of the town. 

 

I think the idea here is to provoke a calamity so great that people will BEG for mages to intervene.  They will run to the magisters of the Tevinter Imperium for protection and help.  And once the empire puts down the threat, people will willingly serve them across Thedas.

 

It's all a conspiracy to have the mages rise to power permanently.

 

Wouldn't a magical calamity cause people to fear mages more?



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Bah just give me a forsaken all to hell bad guy who just wants to see the world burn cause he hates it pure n simple, tired of all this misunderstood, had a crappy childhood, daddy left home when he was a kid bollocks lol


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Cy thinks this guy is actually trying to save the world.... according to this guy's theory... that is



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I think the villain will be an ancient elf awoken from Uthenera

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 What do you want then? A mustache twirling nonsense '' Look at me I am evil, and I do bad things '' antagonist? People are complicated. 

 

 

People are complicated. But people are also varied. Not every villain believes he or she is acting for some kind of greater cause. Some are purely out for their own gain or glory, and damned are those who get in their way. Others want to tear down whatever/whoever's around them just to see if they can, or for how long they can get away with it -- the more difficult the target is to topple, the greater the satisfaction.

 

Yes, there are some wonderful 'tragic villains' with good intentions/sides/backstories before they Turn To The Dark Side, and it's nice for stories/games/movies that want their audiences to feel conflicted about the best way to deal with antagonists like this...but it's is not the only villain that can be done effectively.

 

Edit: Not that I'm saying there must be a villain, but Bioware games have always ended with some sort of mega-boss fight with at least one of these so I'm not really expecting that to change. Kudos if I'm pleasantly surprised though. :)


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A villain who is evil just for the sake of being evil is a no go for me. Whether they are misunderstood, working off selfish ambition or whatever, it is absolutely vital to me that the villain/antagonist has a reason and a motivation for doing what he/she is doing. Heck, even demons have their reasons for doing what they do. 



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The magic will come back.

I must have missed something during my DA2 playthrough, when exactly does Sandal have his vision?



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I must have missed something during my DA2 playthrough, when exactly does Sandal have his vision?

Act 3, he starts spouting it off in the estate, something about "the magic will come back, all of it," and "Everything will be as it was" (Or was it, "Everyone will be as they were"? I can't remember). There was definitely something about the sky opening up though.

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I must have missed something during my DA2 playthrough, when exactly does Sandal have his vision?

 

You don't know about the creepy Sandal prophecy?

It happens in the Hawke estate , if you clic randomly on him.

 



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The Villian is the maker. He is 300% done with everyone and has decided on a mass massacre becauzse he wants to start over.

 

Also the pizza delivery guy is late and he's bored.



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You don't know about the creepy Sandal prophecy?

It happens in the Hawke estate , if you clic randomly on him.

 

It has 1/100 chance of triggering...once. I suspect most people don't know about it.



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It has 1/100 chance of triggering...once. I suspect most people don't know about it.

That's weird... I've seen it every single time I've played the game.... 


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Act 3, he starts spouting it off in the estate, something about "the magic will come back, all of it," and "Everything will be as it was" (Or was it, "Everyone will be as they were"? I can't remember). There was definitely something about the sky opening up though.


I think I'm going to fire up an Act 3 save and click the hell out of Sandal when I get home...

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I think I'm going to fire up an Act 3 save and click the hell out of Sandal when I get home...

That sounds sooo wrong :P


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That sounds sooo wrong :P


I'm sorry...I hope no one is traumatised by it...

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Sandal might be ;)