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[Mokthr]

Oh thank goodness the game is challenging! ME1 wasn't all that challenging even on insanity.

[LucidStrike]

That 9.6 was weird. They deducted points because it's way better for those who import? It's like there should have been two different scores. Also, I ME1 graphics are still a 10 for me.

[Rybo Collier]

I believe they deducted points because of the technical issues they encountered like the game crashing and their Shepard getting stuck on objects.

[ChuckNorris18]

http://xbox360.ign.c...vdr_012210.html

video review is up

[Shodan561]

Deflagratio wrote...

deadshame wrote...

Very nice score. I tend to agree with IGN's reviews. Except their rediculous 10/10 for gtaIV. I never played MGS4 so I can't comment on that. ME2 is looking to be one of my favorite games of all time. Tuesday can't come fast enough.

I didn't agree with 10/10 on Grand Theft Auto4 either. That was more of a timing issue. April Gaming drought, boom GTAIV pops, and it seems like the holy grail.

I'll sum up MGS4, and consider that, I don't own a PS3 but have played a good chunk of MGS4, and very much Liked the Metal Gears up until MGS2 when the story took a turn to ****tytown (Vamp's Bisexual btw).

Stealth Gameplay cut completely. In favor of unlimited ammo tranq pistol that drops pretty much everyone in 1 hit.
Horrible Writing. (Not saying the actual story is bad, I'll say that later, but just the writing style of Kojima is terrible)
2/3 the Game is non-interactive cutscenes.
The Main villian is actually a hand, controlling Ocelot telepathically or some such. So about as compelling as a bag of vomit.
The combat controls are clunky and painful. Would be an asset if the game focused on stealth rather than bang bang shootey booms. (By asset, I mean simulate the pain of Solid Snake's age-induced arthritis)

My point is not saying that MGS4 is a bad game, but citing this example that IGN is as reliable as their bank account permits. I'm surprised they gave Dark Void a crappy review, but then again, it was from a new Developer sooo?

I just wish numerical scores would be tossed out the window. There is no mathmatical equation to derive fun.

I Love MGS from the first to 4, i did find that 10/10 incradibly lucky IMO, but without a doubt, MGS4 was, and may still be the finest crafted game on the PS3, i think the review hit such a high mark mostley because the PS3 was lacking up to that point, compared now to newer games it shows its flaws, but for the relase window it truley was that exiting, im sure in retrospect a 9.5-9.8 would have been more suited. I however barley had fun with GTAIV and didnt see why a 10 for polish was more important than the fact that it was kinda dull. TBOGT however was exactly what it needed.

You are right though, numerical scores mean nothing as long as the game is fun to the player.


Great news about ME2 though.

[LucidStrike]

Rybo Collier wrote...

I believe they deducted points because of the technical issues they encountered like the game crashing and their Shepard getting stuck on objects.

Rereading the last bit, I think I was confused into thinking they were really criticizing it for the import aspect. My Bad.

[spernus]

Rybo Collier wrote...

I believe they deducted points because of the technical issues they encountered like the game crashing and their Shepard getting stuck on objects.

They deductee points in order to avoid another backlash. Giving 10's to MGS 4 and GTA IV left a bad taste in most people mouth and exposed game criticism for the joke that it is.Most reviewers were caught in the insane hype and prejudged those games even before playing them.

It was worse in the case of GTA IV,since I quickly understood just how badly most critics were off on that one.The dull and uninspired missions and horrible checkpoint system alone were worthy of dropping the score by 0.5.

Plenty of gamer already know how overrated Kojima is(love his creativity and ideas,but he's one bad writer and some of the stuff he can come up with is beyond silly and cheesy like that duel in the end of MGS 3),so both Metal gear solid 2 & 4 are 2-3 points abover their worth.In the case of 4,the writing is atrocious and the gameplay sure isn't improved from the earlier title.

The review seems to suggest a perfect 10,but it's good to see IGN showing some restraint.Giving ME 2 a 10 would bring huge backlash from jrpg fans or shooter/sony fanboys(and I'm not sure it's really deserved until I actually play the game myself).

Modifié par spernus, 23 janvier 2010 - 01:19 .

[Rybo Collier]

Does the video review spoil anything?

[Chris_5736]

Deflagratio wrote...

deadshame wrote...

Very nice score. I tend to agree with IGN's reviews. Except their rediculous 10/10 for gtaIV. I never played MGS4 so I can't comment on that. ME2 is looking to be one of my favorite games of all time. Tuesday can't come fast enough.

I didn't agree with 10/10 on Grand Theft Auto4 either. That was more of a timing issue. April Gaming drought, boom GTAIV pops, and it seems like the holy grail.

I'll sum up MGS4, and consider that, I don't own a PS3 but have played a good chunk of MGS4, and very much Liked the Metal Gears up until MGS2 when the story took a turn to ****tytown (Vamp's Bisexual btw).

Stealth Gameplay cut completely. In favor of unlimited ammo tranq pistol that drops pretty much everyone in 1 hit.
Horrible Writing. (Not saying the actual story is bad, I'll say that later, but just the writing style of Kojima is terrible)
2/3 the Game is non-interactive cutscenes.
The Main villian is actually a hand, controlling Ocelot telepathically or some such. So about as compelling as a bag of vomit.
The combat controls are clunky and painful. Would be an asset if the game focused on stealth rather than bang bang shootey booms. (By asset, I mean simulate the pain of Solid Snake's age-induced arthritis)

My point is not saying that MGS4 is a bad game, but citing this example that IGN is as reliable as their bank account permits. I'm surprised they gave Dark Void a crappy review, but then again, it was from a new Developer sooo?

I just wish numerical scores would be tossed out the window. There is no mathmatical equation to derive fun.

Clearly you didn't pay attention to the storyline of MGS4. It was not a hand controlling ocelot, did you just skip the ending all together?

[ChuckNorris18]

Rybo Collier wrote...

Does the video review spoil anything?

No, they just show some gameplay clips and some clips from the launch trailer.

[DanPman0317]

Deflagratio wrote...

DanPman0317 wrote...

1. None of you have played the game.
2. The reviewers have played the game, obviously
3. Different people have different tastes
4. Saying one game gets x score while another gets y is stupid.
5. Giving reasons why they gave thescore they did is again, stupid

Read the review and judge for yourself.

You're right, and some people are more critical than others.

Comments > Numbers. And by any stretch, Mass Effect 2 is going to be something that sets 2010 as one of the best years in gaming. Snuffing out the stink of Darksiders and Dark Void in one swift drop.

WHo cares what it does to Darksiders or Dark Void, each game is going to stand on its own merits.

[KotOREffecT]

I'm so glad now, I really am. I didn't even expect this review until like Sunday or something. This review along with the others really does confirm that ME 2 will command our souls and slay us with teh epicness!

And a 9.6 is so much better than getting a 10, because really, games like that GTA4/Fallout 3 have major problems like lightning, glitching, character gliding *cough fallout 3 cough*, amongst other things. It's better to just get real high up but not high up over hyped. Eric kept it real with the review, and broke down what needed to be said....
 
The game scored higher than the first, and higher than most games over the past year, and yet the review still conveyed a rawness to it that, "hey this game isn't perfect, which no game is, but it will rock your soul!"

Job well done BioWare. 4 days till we continue the journey!

[Rybo Collier]

ChuckNorris18 wrote...

Rybo Collier wrote...

Does the video review spoil anything?

No, they just show some gameplay clips and some clips from the launch trailer.

Thanks dude. 

[The_mango55]

It really doesn't matter what IGN gave GTA or MGS, unless those games were reviewed by the same person.



Despite being a single site with the same review template used for each game, IGN isn't a monolithic entity with only one opinion.

[ChuckNorris18]

Rybo Collier wrote...

ChuckNorris18 wrote...

Rybo Collier wrote...

Does the video review spoil anything?

No, they just show some gameplay clips and some clips from the launch trailer.

Thanks dude. 

Not a problem 

[FutureBoy81]

Rybo Collier wrote...

I believe they deducted points because of the technical issues they encountered like the game crashing and their Shepard getting stuck on objects.

Hope that was only an issue with the reviewers copy of the game , like maybe he was playing a beta version, because the first one suffered from the silly getting stuck in objects bug ...

[Mitch0821]

It looks like Mass Effect 2 just keeps getting great reviews.

[Rybo Collier]

I just remembered they also mentioned that the sound cut out a few times. That and the other technical issues I mentioned seem to be their only gripes. This game seriously looks better and better each time I see it. I can't wait until Tuesday morning at 12:00am to start the next chapter in Ryan Shepard's mission to save the galaxy.



P.S. anyone notice they showed some Femshep in that review?

[Mister Mage]

People should not comment on the accfuracy of a review score before they've actually played the damn game. It's all subjective anyway, and then you weigh the score against your EXPECTATIONS.

[DanPman0317]

Mister Mage wrote...

People should not comment on the accfuracy of a review score before they've actually played the damn game. It's all subjective anyway, and then you weigh the score against your EXPECTATIONS.

I agree, seeing people argue over a fantastic score and a fantsitc review is jsut stupid and petty. They really liked it and for some reason you compare that to you experiance to the game...which is none?

[Awesome Helmet]

they wrote more about ME1 then they did about ME2. either way i hate them for playing the game not once already, but twice. i hope they all get some really really bad paper cuts.

[ITSSEXYTIME]

I dislike how they criticized it for referencing the first game. It's a a story centric sequel to a story centric game as part of a trilogy and you consider it a negative that it references story events in the first game?



*sigh*

[PinkMonkey35]

GTA4 = 10

ME2 = 9.6?

Not complaining about ME2's score! That's a great score! congrats! But, a 10 for GTA4? Really, this is why I find it hard to watch you ign. I only watched b/c I wanted to hear what they thought, but mostly more gameplay... lol Can't wait!

[Tennyochan]

can i hear y'all hola- F**k yeah

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[kcp12]

Being to referential is a plus for me. The sound/clipping issues can hopefully be fixed by a patch. Awesome score.