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[Milan92]

Doesn't change the fact that she didn't give a damn about them until the sibling mentioned they were going to Kirkwall.

 

Also, I guess I'm the only person who realized that quote doesn't match the events of DA2. The world did not shake before Hawke. And technically the real chaos started post-9:37 too. I always took that quote (and another one later) to be about someone else personally (and that since my first playthrough).

 

 

Maybe she was just talking to herself. She is pretty old after all. Probably some sort of prophecy.

[Mistic]

Talking about conspirations and DA2, I'd be more interested about how the expedition to the Deep Roads reached the Primeval Thaig. Didn't Bartrand have a map? Finding it was an accident or it was Bartrand's intention all along?

[EmperorSahlertz]

I suggest you go read Asunder...

I have read it. Everything that happens in Asunder is a result of high tensions between mages and Templars. Tensions that had reached a boiling point because of Anders, and Anders was only capable of creating his bomb because of Hawke.

[wcholcombe]

Also, we are dealing in a fictional universe with blood mages able to control peoples minds through their dreams according to the duo lore. It makes a scheme like this much easier.

[Cobra's_back]

It could be the obvious suspect. Who stands to benefit from an Orlais having to deal with a civil war, demonic invasion, Circle crisis and decimation of the Chantry leadership? Tevinter; maybe Nevarra.

The Witcher 2 did it. The mastermind behind the whole thing really was "just" the Emperor looking to soften his neighbors for an invasion.

 

Of course, one could argue that with the Qunari in the North, Tevinter stands to benefit from a strong Orlais.

 

I was thinking of a Tevinter Dreamer maybe even the Black Divine.

[Cobra's_back]

I have read it. Everything that happens in Asunder is a result of high tensions between mages and Templars. Tensions that had reached a boiling point because of Anders, and Anders was only capable of creating his bomb because of Hawke.

 

But in Asunder the mages would not have finally revolted if not for

Spoiler

Wynne dies. Rhys decides to fight. Lord Seeker didn't try to take control. Templars may have actually been involved in the plot to kill Justina V per Wynne.

 

So the war needed more than just Kirkwall to get it to happen.

[EmperorSahlertz]

But in Asunder the mages would not have finally revolted if not for

Spoiler

Wynne dies. Rhys decides to fight. Lord Seeker didn't try to take control. Templars may have actually been involved in the plot to kill Justina V per Wynne.

 

So the war needed more than just Kirkwall to get it to happen.

Yes. It is called a chain reaction.

[Cobra's_back]

Yes. It is called a chain reaction.

 

Not sure. Chain reaction a series of events in which each event is the result of the one preceding and the cause of the one following.

 

Spoiler

Lord Seeker Cole and Justina V seemed like independent variables. Lord Seeker wanted more control and Justina wanted a more humane treatment of mage. Had he taken a different approach the outcome could have change.