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[Death_Stalks_All]

You'd have to be playing the story with literally no side quests to not know, in some way, that Blood Mages are despised by almost all of Thedas, save themselves, Demons, and Tevinter Mages. In Both Dragon Age 1 and 2 the Warden and Hawke (assuming they were mages) were given the option to become Blood Mages themselves, but so far there are not even (to my knowledge) even sarcastic remarks or any form of change to dialogue if the main character becomes a Blood Mage themselves.

 

So I'd like to ask Bioware: Will there be any reprecussions story-wise? Are advanced classes purely for the sake of gameplay, or will there be some deeper element to it (for example, Force Mage Hawke will do something awesome, perhaps create a wormhole and then obliterate his enemies, Blood Mage Hawke will boil the blood in his enemies' veins and cause them to erupt, The Warden will wear mage robes if (s)he took any specialization but Arcane Warrior, and be wearing enchanted plate armor otherwise?)

 

We saw what you can do with different classes for Hawke (Warrior and Rogue are essentially the same but Mage usually has some more Arcane executions) So I'd like to know if there will be any story-based reprecussions for The Inquisitor?

[TheKomandorShepard]

There is no blood mage in dai it was replaced by necromancer as evil specialization.

[Death_Stalks_All]

There is no blood mage in dai it was replaced by necromancer as evil specialization.

That actually makes a LOT more sense, but I'd still like to know if there will be any story-based reprecussions for Hawke or the Warden? I'm currently working on a Mage Warden and considering having him be an Arcane Warrior as well as a Blood Mage, but I'm also considering Spirit Healer as well as Arcane Warrior. On one hand, if my classes won't have any impact on the story, Blood Mage will make my time a lot easier, but if it does, I'd rather be a Healer so I could save someone(s) life (lives)

[TheKomandorShepard]

That actually makes a LOT more sense, but I'd still like to know if there will be any story-based reprecussions for Hawke or the Warden? I'm currently working on a Mage Warden and considering having him be an Arcane Warrior as well as a Blood Mage, but I'm also considering Spirit Healer as well as Arcane Warrior. On one hand, if my classes won't have any impact on the story, Blood Mage will make my time a lot easier, but if it does, I'd rather be a Healer so I could save someone(s) life (lives)

We don't know if they will be in game i hope they won't but as far they may or not be in game.I rly doubt if they will put them to the game they will focus on details rather you will get random character with chosen class in keep as it will be only basics for the warden gender, class... 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Well, we don't know if Blood Magic is gone completely. It is just not a specialization.

[KainD]

Well, we don't know if Blood Magic is gone completely. It is just not a specialization.

Of course it's not gone. It's confirmed to be in game. And why would it suddenly disappear?

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Of course it's not gone. It's confirmed to be in game. And why would it suddenly disappear?

I mean in regards to the Inquisitor having access to it.

[KainD]

I mean in regards to the Inquisitor having access to it.

That we also know for sure that inq won't have access to it. As stated by Cameron.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

That we also know for sure that inq won't have access to it. As stated by Cameron.

Did they state something? I never kept much of an ear out for blood magic stuff.

[KainD]

Did they state something? I never kept much of an ear out for blood magic stuff.

Yes, Cameron has stated that player won't have access to blood magic.

[wcholcombe]

Where is out confirmed to be in game. Lee pretty much said they replaced blood mage with the necromancer. I can see NPCs using blood magic. I can even see you either helping or destroying a group of mages who use blood magic.

Also, tevinter has outlawed blood magic. Just because some use blood magic doesn't make them OK with it. If DHMG is the tevinter mage from the survey I expect him to be very anti blood magic.

[thats1evildude]

That actually makes a LOT more sense, but I'd still like to know if there will be any story-based reprecussions for Hawke or the Warden? I'm currently working on a Mage Warden and considering having him be an Arcane Warrior as well as a Blood Mage, but I'm also considering Spirit Healer as well as Arcane Warrior. On one hand, if my classes won't have any impact on the story, Blood Mage will make my time a lot easier, but if it does, I'd rather be a Healer so I could save someone(s) life (lives)

 

If there were going to be repurcussions for practicing blood magic, they would have been experienced in those games.

 

If Bioware determines a specific fate for the two previous protagonists, it will befall ALL of our characters. There's not going to be any "Joe is an abomination, but Steve is not because you found all the nugs in Orzammar."

[EmperorSahlertz]

Where is out confirmed to be in game. Lee pretty much said they replaced blood mage with the necromancer. I can see NPCs using blood magic. I can even see you either helping or destroying a group of mages who use blood magic.

Also, tevinter has outlawed blood magic. Just because some use blood magic doesn't make them OK with it. If DHMG is the tevinter mage from the survey I expect him to be very anti blood magic.

Tevinter only outlawed it as a lip service to the Chantry, and have kept it outlawed to not attract uneccesary aggression from all other states. But the upper echelons of the Magisters probably all use Blood Magic gladly.

[Hellion Rex]

Yes, Cameron has stated that player won't have access to blood magic.

As a specialization. I can still see our player having the ability to perhaps do it in certain points of the story.

[KainD]

As a specialization. I can still see our player having the ability to perhaps do it in certain points of the story.

 

There was no word about specialization. He was talking about blood magic and it's consequences. To do anything with blood magic, first you have to learn it and know how to use it. 

[Hellion Rex]

There was no word about specialization. He was talking about blood magic and it's consequences. To do anything with blood magic, first you have to learn it and know how to use it. 

No, you don't. Anders makes a point of asking Merrill if the first time she used blood magic was after accidentally cutting herself and then realizing how it works. All you have to do is cut your damn hand.

[EmperorSahlertz]

No, you don't. Anders makes a point of asking Merrill if the first time she used blood magic was after accidentally cutting herself and then realizing how it works. All you have to do is cut your damn hand.

Using that as evidence is a little bit arbitrary, since Anders in another dialogue with Merrill says that to learn blood magic you have to look a demon in the eyes and accept what it has to offer.

[Hellion Rex]

Using that as evidence is a little bit arbitrary, since Anders in another dialogue with Merrill says that to learn blood magic you have to look a demon in the eyes and accept what it has to offer.

Meh, fine, I'll concede that one to you. However, I still don't think you have to "learn" blood magic to necessarily utilize it.

[Death_Stalks_All]

Meh, fine, I'll concede that one to you. However, I still don't think you have to "learn" blood magic to necessarily utilize it.

I don't agree with that. I think if all Mages instinctively knew Blood Magic, then right next to every Apostate we meet would be a Blood Mage. Not only that, literally every mage we meet would have some capabilities with Blood Magic and either

• The Templars would have declared a war on Mages much earlier in history because they'd be 10x more paranoid, knowing that all mages knew the magic and it was more about 'who's going to use it?' rather than 'who's going to learn it?'
• OR The Chantry would be 10x more relaxed about it because everyone knew it and to regulate even the amount you knew by Instinct would be absolutely ludicrous.

[Hellion Rex]

I don't agree with that. I think if all Mages instinctively knew Blood Magic, then right next to every Apostate we meet would be a Blood Mage. Not only that, literally every mage we meet would have some capabilities with Blood Magic and either A) The Templars would have tried to wipe out mages WAAAY before the events of the Dragon Age series, or it'd be more accepted because every Mage knew it.

I never said that they instinctively knew it, but I don't think you necessarily have to learn from a book or demon that you can draw power from blood to amplify spells.

[KainD]

No, you don't. Anders makes a point of asking Merrill if the first time she used blood magic was after accidentally cutting herself and then realizing how it works. All you have to do is cut your damn hand.

 

Not really, you still have to practice after the realization. Nothing is easy. 

[KainD]

I never said that they instinctively knew it, but I don't think you necessarily have to learn from a book or demon that you can draw power from blood to amplify spells.

 

Blood magic doesn't amplify spells, it casts them. 

[EmperorSahlertz]

Blood magic doesn't amplify spells, it casts them. 

Blood can be used to amplify magic. Just like lyrium.

[Face of Evil]

Tevinter only outlawed it as a lip service to the Chantry, and have kept it outlawed to not attract uneccesary aggression from all other states. But the upper echelons of the Magisters probably all use Blood Magic gladly.

That's not entirely true. There's a letter in WoT from a magister to her apprentice stating "there are good reasons, quite aside from the Chantry's sermons, that such arts are now frowned upon." It does mention that the use of blood magic left the ancient Magisters more susceptible to demons.

Although blood magic is still widely-used in Tevinter, not every magister practices it. Maevaris, for instance, never uses blood magic in the comics.

[KainD]

Blood can be used to amplify magic. Just like lyrium.

 

Just like mana. Semantics. Mage is the one that decides how powerful of a spell they want to cast, blood magic doesn't automatically amplify.