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[JasonShepard]

Control. As ever. Benefits outweigh the losses. (ESPECIALLY in your version.)

 

Although I'm curious - I may be capable of controlling all synthetics, but can I choose not to? Can I leave them to do whatever they want to do? Or will they just stand around mindless in that case?

 

In other words, I'm asking: Are synthetics essentially dead with both options there?

[AlexMBrennan]

Control: Your entire being is absorbed and infused into all synthetic life (including Reapers) allowing you to manipulate and control them. Not only do you control all synthetic life but are able to subconsciously control all organic life. The mass relays, element zero and biotic is still around. You are able to truly decide and control the future of all beings in the universe. However doing this will terminate your existence. It would be as if you never existed as life goes on.

That is incoherent nonsense - you cannot have a godlike entity control everything whilst everything is "as if that entity never existed"  

 

However, control sound like a non-solution really - you just turn everything into Lego figures (taking control of all synthetics, and turning all organic life into biological robots)  for a newly created god to play with so all existence would ultimately be completely meaningless.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

I would throw the controller at the screen.

[themikefest]

Doesn't matter how you butter it, I will always take destroy all the time every time no matter what

[Nightwriter]

I can't say those choices make total sense to me, so I'm not sure how to answer. 

 

Purple?

[teh DRUMPf!!]

 Of those two I'd say Destroy is better...

 

 

... but I'd pick Control.

[ImaginaryMatter]

If I could order the destruction of all Reapers within my control then uninstall myself from my synthetic friends, then Control for sure.

[AlanC9]

If the Reapers are under such perfect control, what's the point of destroying them?

[Excella Gionne]

I pick all of them. I don't really favor any of them too much!

[SwobyJ]

Erm, I dunno about it, given how you described the choices.. I guess Destroy? ????

 

Instead, let's say that these following things happened instead:

-There is more of a bolstering of Control and manipulating Reaper forces throughout much of ME2-3, instead of just blowing stuff up so much and facing an enemy who wants to Control with mustache twirly evilness

-No Synthesis stuff, at all

-Ending Extended Cut stuff stays largely the same

-No dream stuff. No child, but maybe still an Intelligence that we can believe

-Nothing in place that would imply indoctrination of Shepard or anything else, or if there is indoc, make it more clear to be happening but also make it part of the player's active decision making (indoc + power?, or free + danger?)

 

If this all was the case, I *might* pick Control. It'd at least be considered more than it currently is.

 

As it is, I keep playing a ME3 where things seem really freaking unreal (especially thanks to Leviathan and Citadel DLC!), and I just want this Shepard protagonist to wake the hell up and move forward, not to get stuck in an illusion. That's my primary personal motivator. Take that away, and I'd think more literal and consider Control.

[SporkFu]

@OP: I don't understand the bit about subconsciously controlling organic life. Please understand I'm not trying to make light of your idea... but does it mean that, for example, I can make someone dream about a sequence of numbers and then they go out and win the lottery? 

[Abelas Forever!]

I would still choose destroy because there is a price for freedom. It's a horrible price to pay but I think it's better than Shepard becoming some kind of controlling device. Even if Shepard is considered to be a great leader I think nobody should have that kind of power. I have always wondered if Shepard is able to maintain his/her sanity when she/he is isoloted from everybody which will happen when she/he will choose the control ending. I guess Shepard was already broken in ME3 so if she/he is given the power. Well I don't think anything good happens from that.

[teh DRUMPf!!]

@OP: I don't understand the bit about subconsciously controlling organic life. Please understand I'm not trying to make light of your idea... but does it mean that, for example, I can make someone dream about a sequence of numbers and then they go out and win the lottery? 

 

I think he's basically trying to say that the Shepard-controlled synthetics can indoctrinate organics.

[Hadeedak]

I favor Pursuit of Knowledge over Pragmatism!

[quinwhisperer]

I would still choose destroy because there is a price for freedom. It's a horrible price to pay but I think it's better than Shepard becoming some kind of controlling device. Even if Shepard is considered to be a great leader I think nobody should have that kind of power. I have always wondered if Shepard is able to maintain his/her sanity when she/he is isoloted from everybody which will happen when she/he will choose the control ending. I guess Shepard was already broken in ME3 so if she/he is given the power. Well I don't think anything good happens from that.

I'm of the same opinion. It'd be unethical to be become such kind of a "godlike being". So, Destroy all the way.

[KaiserShep]

This is like choosing between watching The Room and Manos: The Hands of Fate. Either way, you're stuck with something equally awful, despite that it seems like Destroy is made considerably worse while Control doesn't really differ all that much from what we get from its canon counterpart. Without element zero, mass effect fields and FTL are no longer possible, and every world would be left in a Tuchanka-like state. Everyone in space would be stranded and eventually die. Freedom vs. independence doesn't really make a difference at that point, because going the "freedom" route seems only a shade better than refuse.

[TheOneTrueBioticGod]

The Reapers can kiss my suited biotic ass. 

Any ending where they survive is just unacceptable. 

[MassivelyEffective0730]

The Reapers can kiss my suited biotic ass. 

Any ending where they survive is just unacceptable. 

 

Why is their survival unacceptable?

[TheOneTrueBioticGod]

Why is their survival unacceptable?

Because f*** them. I spent three games trying to kill them. I'm not gonna stop now. 

Admittedly, this is a bit personal. 

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Because f*** them. I spent three games trying to kill them. I'm not gonna stop now. 

Admittedly, this is a bit personal. 

 

It is. And irrational.

[TheOneTrueBioticGod]

It is. And irrational.

It is. 

[Lady Abstract]

People with that amount of control eventually corrupt thus shepard would become another star child. He may develop his own form of the harvest

[shodiswe]

Bioware did it better than these choices it would seem, it doesn't make sense.

While I tend to be ok with Control, that control version sounds pretty bad.. It's just a galaxy of thralls... What would I have to do next? Invade another galaxy and ask them if they want to play because my servants are completely lobotomised and boring?