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[grey_wind]

Translators, that somehow work and synchronize perfectly in real time. It's honestly not a big deal. Artistic license mixed with the ability to write a story without driving yourself raving mad.

 

Hanar can't even really talk. Their bioluminescent communication is "translated" into audio for other species.

[Mrs_Stick]

I just figured they had translators. When I got the scene with Thane and Shepard tells him "What did you call me? I think my translator just glitched." I figured that explained it for me.

[ImaginaryMatter]

Supposedly, the omni-tools have some real time translator. It's a decent enough hand wave for me, afterall they have VI programs that can carry conversations with people so a translator doesn't seem like too big of a stretch. What bothers me more is where does the translated audio go? Does everyone have ear pieces?

 

Although, I do wish at some point in the series there was a scene where everyone's translators broke and Shepard and friends had to communicate to each other with hand gestures. It would have the potential of being both a funny and universe building scene. I can imagine Turians sounding like something from Jurassic Park; while something like a Krogan would, ironically, have a very elegant natural language.

[Obadiah]

I had kind of hoped for a common language everyone knew, but it was mentioned somewhere (maybe in one of the books) that universal translators was the explanation.

[DeinonSlayer]

I had kind of hoped for a common language everyone knew, but it was mentioned somewhere (maybe in one the books) that universal translators was the explanation.

Actually, the codex entry on translators in BDtS established that there is a universal trade language used in addition to translators, taught to every species capable of speech (asari, turian, human, quarian, salarian etc), but species incapable of vocal communication (like the Hanar and Elcor) rely entirely on translators.

Why the batarians at the beginning of BDtS were not translated is odd... perhaps they were speaking a dialect not included in the translator library.

[ImaginaryMatter]

Actually, the codex entry on translators in BDtS established that there is a universal trade language used in addition to translators, taught to every species capable of speech (asari, turian, human, quarian, salarian etc), but species incapable of vocal communication (like the Hanar and Elcor) rely entirely on translators.

Why the batarians at the beginning of BDtS were not translated is odd... perhaps they were speaking a dialect not included in the translator library.

 

Hmm, that is interesting. Because I think the in game Codex entry for the translators was added in BDtS, if I recall.

[Ribosome]

Idk maybe they refer to the language as Galactic Basic a la KotOR?

[Obadiah]

Actually, the codex entry on translators in BDtS established that there is a universal trade language used in addition to translators, taught to every species capable of speech (asari, turian, human, quarian, salarian etc), but species incapable of vocal communication (like the Hanar and Elcor) rely entirely on translators.
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Yup, reads like most folks still rely on the translators.

[geth47]

In the batarian´s case, since they´re xenophobic and separatist, it´s not impossible that they developed a code, a new form of language, in order for the universal translators not being able to discern what they were saying among themselves. It could also be a second firewall in case their communications among themselves were ever intercepted. 

[Ryriena]

Actually, the codex explains this as translators in the Omni tool computing system.

[Vigilant111]

Ugh, OP, but you see, you can tell people are using translators when their mouth shape does not match the pronunciations

[fhs33721]

In game explanation: Translators.

 

Real live explanation: Making up alien languages would be awful. Have you ever played any Star Wars game? The aliens there do talk alien languages and it's just the same three nonsensical sounds played at diffenent speeds over and over again. To say it short, it is annoying and sucks. So everybody talks english/german/french or whatever language you installed the game with.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

In game explanation: Translators.

 

Real live explanation: Making up alien languages would be awful. Have you ever played any Star Wars game? The aliens there do talk alien languages and it's just the same three nonsensical sounds played at diffenent speeds over and over again. To say it short, it is annoying and sucks. So everybody talks english/german/french or whatever language you installed the game with.

 

Also, same reason that the aliens all use the human gregorian calendar for dating. And the same measurement of time.

[Ryriena]

For me, I chalk that up too using a Galactic year for the setting time and stuff. I would imagine the earth alliance star charts would use a human time frame. Basically, a galactic year would be the time a solar system travels around the center of the Milky Way galaxy. I would bet they use the Citadel as the reference point for the orbit around the center. So they have ways to transfer that into a normal system. In 2012, we had the galactic new year as we reached the center.

[AlanC9]

The only real problem with dates is Tali's speech about "three years to the day." This doesn't work at all if she's using Rannoch years.

It's likely that there's some sort of galactic standard year that's closer to Earth years, but would a quarian measure time that way?

[Abelas Forever!]

I'm not bothered about it that everybody speaks english because I think it's quite common in movies or in TV series if they are made in Hollywood. The events of the story are happening in Italy or in France for example and amazingly everybody speaks english..

[ImaginaryMatter]

The only real problem with dates is Tali's speech about "three years to the day." This doesn't work at all if she's using Rannoch years.

It's likely that there's some sort of galactic standard year that's closer to Earth years, but would a quarian measure time that way?

 

I just always explained it away by having the translator translate time and distances as well.

[AlanC9]

Yeah, but three Earth years to the day isn't anything in particular by a quarian calendar.

[AlexMBrennan]

The reason is simple - it would waste resources and annoy the player to have to concentrate on reading subtitles all the time whilst characters spout gibberish on screen, so just about every movie or video game ever will have the default/most common language be English (barring "art" films that are broadcast in the original Norwegian or whatever)

[MassivelyEffective0730]

For me, I chalk that up too using a Galactic year for the setting time and stuff. I would imagine the earth alliance star charts would use a human time frame. Basically, a galactic year would be the time a solar system travels around the center of the Milky Way galaxy. I would bet they use the Citadel as the reference point for the orbit around the center. So they have ways to transfer that into a normal system. In 2012, we had the galactic new year as we reached the center.

 

That wouldn't work: it takes about 225-250 million terrestrial years for the sun to orbit the galactic center (a galactic year). What you said really makes no sense.

[Ryriena]

That wouldn't work: it takes about 225-250 million terrestrial years for the sun to orbit the galactic center (a galactic year). What you said really makes no sense.

Oh then, I'll shut my mouth...

[von uber]

The reason is simple - it would waste resources and annoy the player to have to concentrate on reading subtitles all the time whilst characters spout gibberish on screen, so just about every movie or video game ever will have the default/most common language be English (barring "art" films that are broadcast in the original Norwegian or whatever)

 

Or films madein countires where english is not the first language. "art" has nothing to do with it.

Regarding subtitles, most people seem to play with them on anyway,

[AlanC9]

Or films madein countires where english is not the first language. "art" has nothing to do with it.
Regarding subtitles, most people seem to play with them on anyway,

It's a US thing. Non-English films only play here in the "art house" theaters. And always subtitled; dubbing's hugely unpopular here, possibly because it's associated with bad 70s softcore. IIRC Harvey Weinstein put out a dubbed release of "Life is Beautiful," but it turns out that it isn't subtitles keeping Americans away from foreign films.

Do people really play with titles on? I know videos are done that way, but I thought that was a courtesy to viewers looking at them in situations where they can't hear the video too well.