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The Inquisitor's money and the Inquisition's money


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Do you believe that these are going to be one and the same or do you believe they'll be separate resources? It's kind of funny to me when playing a game and supposedly the head of a large powerful organization or a noble and your coin purse is completely empty.. At the same time how much money can you really take out of the war chest and still be able to feed your soldiers?

 

Personally I believe it would be amusing if the Inquisition had some measure of how well funded it is. The Inquisitor can take funds from the organization or add to them. If you take too much money there could be issues with such things as feeding your soldiers, paying their wages and making sure they're well armed. A fat bank account helps in the inquisition but it makes it harder to keep your purse full. After all surely the leader of the Inquisition shouldn't be walking around in rags or with holes in her shoes.


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Hopefully you can take funds for your own use.

 

Think how funny it will be when the Inquisitor spends half the Inquisition's money at the brothel.


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I'm guessing separate resources. Maybe they'll deal with the Inquisition with something outside just currency but actual resources you need. Maybe you need a bunch of tools so your workers can clear the valley out we saw in the PAX demo. Maybe you need a lot of armor to outfit your army. I don't think we'll necessarily have currency for the Inquisition but definitely some kind of resource system specifically for them, IMO. It's a good way to fill big environments in with content by you collecting resources that both you and the Inquisition can use on your adventure. If you pay attention closely in the PAX demo, you can see the constant ability to pick herbs or w/e in the environment as it's highlighted. They never grabbed any but it was there. I'm sure it will be used for crafting/alchemy but it could be something gathered for the Inquisition's strength too.


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I figure a system that uses resources (iron, stone, lumber, etc) for the Inquisition and Keep, while gold is something you can run around and spend in brothels.

 

or what  deuce985 said.


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Do you believe that these are going to be one and the same or do you believe they'll be separate resources? It's kind of funny to me when playing a game and supposedly the head of a large powerful organization or a noble and your coin purse is completely empty.. At the same time how much money can you really take out of the war chest and still be able to feed your soldiers?

 

Personally I believe it would be amusing if the Inquisition had some measure of how well funded it is. The Inquisitor can take funds from the organization or add to them. If you take too much money there could be issues with such things as feeding your soldiers, paying their wages and making sure they're well armed. A fat bank account helps in the inquisition but it makes it harder to keep your purse full. After all surely the leader of the Inquisition shouldn't be walking around in rags or with holes in her shoes.

 

Large organizations don't intermingle their funds. It makes sense if it's a very small scale op, but otherwise there's a separate treasury for the organization (because it prevents corruption, like the leader spending everything on herself). 



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I did find it a bit strange in DA2 when Hawke was supposedly this rich noble that you had to run around and grind for cash to buy potions and such.  I guess every game needs an economy limitation for the PC to help with balance, but storywise it can be ridiculous.  Hopefully it makes sense in the context of the game.


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Neverwinter Nights 2 had a good system for keep funds vs personal.
Pour your money in, get money back from the coffers later on.
I really loved Crossroad Keep and how it all worked.


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Large organizations don't intermingle their funds. It makes sense if it's a very small scale op, but otherwise there's a separate treasury for the organization (because it prevents corruption, like the leader spending everything on herself). 

 

 

Playing a corrupt Inquisitor might be fun.



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This is a very interesting question. Game economies are always something that can use improving, definitely so in DA's case. You could end each game without buying literally anything and it wouldn't hinder you in the slightest. I think DA I needs to incorporate a system where your funds actually ARE necessary to some extent--the semi-open world, with its theoretical unlimited cash flow (killing monsters/bandits, selling their stuff) would mean that Bioware can implement some sort of system where your cash levels actually affect how well your Inquisition runs.

 

But this is all kind of off-topic (I just like talking about in-game economies). For the topic directly, they will probably be different. No way to know if they'll make cash a necessary part of the Inquisition or if, like others have said, will base it off of materials instead (food, clothes, weapons, armor).

 

I just hope I have something to buy in this game and don't end up sitting on a fat purse of hundreds of sovereigns with literally nothing but fourth-wall-breaking attribute/skill books to buy.


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I wonder if it would be like Fable 3 where you could work and put millions of gold in the coffers XD. 


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I hope we have personal money and Inquisition resources that are separate things, but you have the option to put your gold into the Inquisition to give your troops more/better resources.



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I think Bioware can disclose something like this pretty please Bioware? :(. Tell us? *puppy dog eyes.*



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don't show them those eyes, you wont get them back...

 

anyway, it would have to be separate....  to advance parts of the story you have to get the inquisition to a certain size, but if you blow all the funds then you could not keep the inquisition at its current size (at least in theory anyway) which would cause problems advancing the story...



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Scribbles will keep the Inquisition payed for and give you a monthly allowance. :P


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i think sandal should be in charge of finances



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This thread needs an accountant.



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I want to be able to spend willy-nilly.

 

What is best for me is best for the inqisition, and if they don't like it I'm gonna make heads roll.

 

It'd be cool if there was some sort of banking/investment system though.



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Playing a corrupt Inquisitor might be fun.

 

The troops start starving right when all of the 50 foot tall gold plated statutes of the Inquisitor start showing up? 


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the only known Inquisition resourse is agents so as i understand Inquisition will have their own money what they will have by alliances with factions and by restoring keeps and mines and trade roads

 

so agents will bring all for inquisition and inquisition wiil need to hire more agents by making alliances with some factions like dalish, dwarfs, grey wardens, mages and others...we choose ones and we lose anothers



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The troops start starving right when all of the 50 foot tall gold plated statutes of the Inquisitor start showing up? 

Who cares? The Inquisitor is the ****** man/woman and everyone will know it!



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I remember Fable 2 when you become 'corrupt' for charging high prices at the shops you owned because apparently the peasents were too stupid to shop at the store right next door charging a tenth of the price for an identical item. Or for eating fatty foods and meat.

 

Boy, did that game suck.

 

Course, you could just do what everyone did and set the clock on your Xbox forward a few centuries, then log in and collect millions from your pathetic trinket stall in the middle of nowhere that's been operating the whole time. 



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The troops start starving right when all of the 50 foot tall gold plated statutes of the Inquisitor start showing up? 

 

I said 60 ft!



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I said 60 ft!

Mine is going to be 61ft.

 

B)



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I can't recall from where I heard it, but they said that the currency you use to invest in the Inquisition is not the same you use to buy potions, armor or other similar things.

 

I think that the "agents" are the "currency" you use for the Inquisition and the sovereigns a.k.a royals, silvers a.k.a. crowns and bits a.k.a pennies  (gold,silver and bronze coins) are the ones you use to buy stuff that you or your companions can use.



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Neverwinter Nights 2 had a good system for keep funds vs personal.
Pour your money in, get money back from the coffers later on.
I really loved Crossroad Keep and how it all worked.

 

That sounds nice though I would like to see such a mechanic influenced by how you run things. Are you burning through troops so quickly that all your money is being used to higher mercenaries? In that case I wouldn't expect much of a return on that investment.

 

This is a very interesting question. Game economies are always something that can use improving, definitely so in DA's case. You could end each game without buying literally anything and it wouldn't hinder you in the slightest. I think DA I needs to incorporate a system where your funds actually ARE necessary to some extent--the semi-open world, with its theoretical unlimited cash flow (killing monsters/bandits, selling their stuff) would mean that Bioware can implement some sort of system where your cash levels actually affect how well your Inquisition runs.

 

But this is all kind of off-topic (I just like talking about in-game economies). For the topic directly, they will probably be different. No way to know if they'll make cash a necessary part of the Inquisition or if, like others have said, will base it off of materials instead (food, clothes, weapons, armor).

 

I just hope I have something to buy in this game and don't end up sitting on a fat purse of hundreds of sovereigns with literally nothing but fourth-wall-breaking attribute/skill books to buy.

 

That comment about being able to obtain infinite wealth due to respawning enemies is the type of thing that would keep me playing a long time. I'd likely hold back on advancing the story while I farmed up enough wealth to build up a plentiful bank roll.