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#51
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EDI bot... give her a shotgun and she chews through them.  Geth, on the other hand....

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What is power kits?
He has a claymoar, casters love claymoares.


Sure if they want to make power combos once every 10 seconds.

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Sure if they want to make power combos once every 10 seconds.

 

Please, don't confuse the poor child!  Score whoring, not fun, is the only thing that matters!  Surely.

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Toaster, that's actually the exact engineer I use, haha. I'll have to try the wraith. More damage in less time on target is always nice...and yeah that .3 shouldn't really be noticeable.

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My favorite way to deal with the Collectors is: The N7 Destroyer with a Particle Rifle, and a Venom (+Multi-Frag). Hitting their weak spots is a must, because even their standard units can give and take some major damage. Scions, never lose track of them-especially when they're possessed-they open the flood gates once they get into it. Take 'em out early. Mr. Krabbs, engage with plenty of cover, space to maneuver, and abuse right hand advantage. Don't forget Mr. Krabbs (Praetorian) doesn't give a f__k about your "rules" and "logic". That ish goes out the window the second you decide to play ME3.

Also, if you can keep them away overall (Sniper kits), you'll minimize their-as well as every other enemies'-b.s. levels. But that's not always fun. I like to get in there and make sure they know who firmly placed their foot in their cheap-as_es! Pick your spots, and reset the situation if you mess up. There's nothing wrong with retreating; as long as it's followed with an attack!

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Sure if they want to make power combos once every 10 seconds.

IDK mega, my human adept with claymoar is still able to conduct 2 biotic explosions during 8 seconds. Ofc it's not so fast as lolcolyte fury can, but it's as much as you can squeeze out of singularity anyways.

BTW, even claymoar fury can self combo every 2 seconds, cuz lolAF. So please, stop squizzing bizzare numbers out of your head Mega. 

 

Ofc you trade of a good portion of your cooldown time and thus should use powers in a more wise manner than just a button-mashing.

 

I start worrying about you, you already have a "play claymore not kit" sign, the next stage will manifest with "reload cancelling is cheating" symptom.



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I see people rape everything with the destroyer + particle rifle/typhoon/piranha and I just can't get them! This store is still annoying as hell.

I play a lot like you by the sound of it reks, I like to get in there and whoop that ass....I just die half the time when I do, lol.
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GI is a glass cannon. New players are better off with something more tankier. Both Tsent and TGI are substantially tankier than GI, which helps a lot with carpet bombing and butt lasors. Ofc, it is his choice at the end.

Fair enough- although with the standard non-sniper build (i.e. 4 ranks in fitness), plus a Cyclonic II (I don't know what his consumable situation is like) his shields are quite good (like 1125 I think), plus wallhax and speedboost from HM. Also, even if its brutal going at first he'll ultimately benefit more from figuring out how to play with the GI, as opposed to leaning on the TGI . I won't object to anyone recommending the Tsent, though (under really any circumstances). 

 

*On the other hand, if he doesn't have many medi-gel/ops pack capacity increases yet, trying to learn the ropes on the GI vs. Collectors on Gold is probably a bad idea. Its pretty much inevitable that you die alot while trying to get the hang of squishier classes like the GI, and if you still only have 2 gels per match, that's going to be painful.  



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IDK mega, my human adept with claymoar is still able to conduct 2 biotic explosions during 8 seconds. Ofc it's not so fast as lolcolyte fury can, but it's as much as you can squeeze out of singularity anyways.
BTW, even claymoar fury can self combo every 2 seconds, cuz lolAF. So please, stop squizzing bizzare numbers out of your head Mega. 
 
Ofc you trade of a good portion of your cooldown time and thus should use powers in a more wise manner than just a button-mashing.
 
I start to worry about you, you already have a "play claymore not kit" sign, the next stage will manifest with "reload cancelling is cheating" symptom.


I pioneered the 'play the claymore not the kit' concept.. at least, I never heard anyone say it before and I thought of it on my own.

..8 seconds, 10 seconds.. you're nitpicking like a f'n naggy wife chewing out her husband. It's the concept that matters.. and yes I know about the Fury/claymore combo.

I don't think you grasp the concept that some people want to play the game with more of a focus on powers and power combos instead of min/max weapon spam. Some people.. really like the sound of biotic explosions and fire explosions.. people like you, seem to greatly enjoy the sound of headshots more than anything. Neither person is wrong.. yet you seem to think anyone who doesn't slap a heavy ass gun on every kit is wrong.. and then you talk down to them and say, "claymore claymore claymore' everyday.

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I see people rape everything with the destroyer + particle rifle/typhoon/piranha and I just can't get them! This store is still annoying as hell.

I play a lot like you by the sound of it reks, I like to get in there and whoop that ass....I just die half the time when I do, lol.

You have a TSol, you have an AT12. Smart choke, HVB, Warp ammo. Bam Bam - head head. That combo RAPES collectaz.

Or take pirranha.

@mega I'm not against power kits, I just merely outlined your exagregation of cooldown times (which you still deny).

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Some people.. really like the sound of biotic explosions and fire explosions.. 

Damn straight.


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I see people rape everything with the destroyer + particle rifle/typhoon/piranha and I just can't get them! This store is still annoying as hell.
I play a lot like you by the sound of it reks, I like to get in there and whoop that ass....I just die half the time when I do, lol.

I don't know if you know this: but teammates are actually rocket drones, free medigel dispensers, and bullet sponges.

But if you do like to kick as much a_s as me, my condolences to your enemies; 'cause it actually isn't legal to kick that much a_s llooll. As far as dying, pssh. I look at at like the car commercial says "Don't look at it as a 'stop sign', look at it as another chance to 'go'!" Like I said, teammates are free medigel dispensers, and we're all teammates! If you get stopped, I'm a get ya up to go! Don't sweat dyin', s__t happens. Get back in there and kill 'em all, dead!

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You have a TSol, you have an AT12. Smart choke, HVB, Warp ammo. Bam Bam - head head. That combo RAPES collectaz.
Or take pirranha.
@mega I'm not against power kits, I just merely outlined your exagregation of cooldown times (which you still deny).


Ok.. you win. I exaggerated by a whole two seconds. Do you feel better now?

Meanwhile.. you haven't helped the OP at all, bc you're still recommending heavy weapon builds on soldiers.

Its not that you're against power kits (because that's all kits).. you're against the light weapons, fast cooldown, power heavy playstyle.. at least, I've never seen you encourage it.
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I like the tsol with proximity debuffing, but I hate classes that can't dodge...I rely on dodge a ton.

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Haha yeah teammates are great for that reks, but the wipe today was due to being almost immediately stomped and teammates not really getting to ya.

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I like the tsol with proximity debuffing, but I hate classes that can't dodge...I rely on dodge a ton.


Believe it or not.. Proxy mine is kinda counter productive on the Tsol unless you have really light weapons.. bc it keeps you out of Marksman. I don't even have it specced on mine.. but I do have max Concussive shot to solve the dodge problem. If anything gets in my face where I can't solve it with a weapon, I can stagger it or put ot flat on its ass.

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I don't think you grasp the concept that some people want to play the game with more of a focus on powers and power combos instead of min/max weapon spam. Some people.. really like the sound of biotic explosions and fire explosions.. people like you, seem to greatly enjoy the sound of headshots more than anything. Neither person is wrong.. yet you seem to think anyone who doesn't slap a heavy ass gun on every kit is wrong.. and then you talk down to them and say, "claymore claymore claymore' everyday.
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Loooool and agreed

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Ok.. you win. I exaggerated by a whole two seconds. Do you feel better now?

Meanwhile.. you haven't helped the OP at all, bc you're still recommending heavy weapon builds on soldiers.

Its not that you're against power kits (because that's all kits).. you're against the light weapons, fast cooldown, power heavy playstyle.. at least, I've never seen you encourage it.

2 explosions in 8 seconds vs mega's 1 in 10 seconds. You are still pulling random numbers.

I do not like lighter loadouts, cuz I do not enjoy them. And with wraith, Talon and Hirrdur claymoar is a much less cheap choice for casters.

Well OP, if you really do not enjoy weapon platforms, any adept rapes collectors, cuz biosplosn modifiers apply to all their defences. Take Pally/Arc/carniflex with CTS, headshot mooks, take down bosses with combos. Make sure you land crab first (you should always land a crab).

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I like the tsol with proximity debuffing, but I hate classes that can't dodge...I rely on dodge a ton.

Raider TSol (almost any TSol tbh) needs only marksman, passives and fitness. He doesn't need CS or proxy mine, and for sure, he doesn't need dodge.

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It's not really a matter of not liking weapon platforms, I just haven't had much success with them. The only ones I do decently well with are the infiltrator (because who doesn't do well in one??) and the geth engineer, which I love but struggle on bosses with because of my rifle choices.

Biotic and fire explosions are glorious, of course.

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2 explosions in 8 seconds vs mega's 1 in 10 seconds. You are still pulling random numbers.
I do not like lighter loadouts, cuz I do not enjoy them. And with wraith, Talon and Hirrdur claymoar is a much less cheap choice for casters.


Ok.. so other than kits with Singularity, Grenades and Annhilation field.. you're still wrong. Just let it go..

Also.. any kit can power spam with a Hurricane + proper ammo and keep up with almost all weapon platforms. Put that in your pipe and smoke it. Maybe after the buzz you'll realize having a fast cooldown and making lots of combos/AOE damage is effective.. and often more effective at raping mook spawns than spike damage weapon platforms.

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k mega, u right me wronk.

And about that hurricane power spam: don't forget your acolyte.

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Staying mobile against collector units is the key...when they close in on you...bad things will happen lol

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It's not really a matter of not liking weapon platforms, I just haven't had much success with them. The only ones I do decently well with are the infiltrator (because who doesn't do well in one??) and the geth engineer, which I love but struggle on bosses with because of my rifle choices.
Biotic and fire explosions are glorious, of course.


To truely excel with weapon platforms.. you need good weapons and good consumables. If you don't even have maxed rares, then that could be problematic. Sure there are good rares that can do the job.. but they're mostly shotgun. All the rare ARs/SMGs/Pistols suck compared to the rare shotguns, except the Arc Pistol.. and that's better on casters anyway. The CSR is the only good rare sniper rifle that ypu can use on a non-iinfiltrator that doesn't have any drawbacks.. the Kishock is really good vs mooks but it's bad vs bosses, and the Widow is just mediocre without Cloak or Adrenaline Rush (and heavy). But the CSR has a learning curve.. and it's worth learning. There is a crapton of damage in that 45 round mag.

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Haha yeah teammates are great for that reks, but the wipe today was due to being almost immediately stomped and teammates not really getting to ya.

I'd file that under "s__t went down/happens". Nothin' to be bothered by. Well, I'll let these fine individuals assist you. G'luck dodgin' them Booty-Beams!