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[Maria13]

So I've just finished reading this today and one of the things that struck me was that it really, really went out of it's way not to mention who was the current monarch of Ferelden.

 

Cailan is mentioned and Bann Teagan makes a small appearance as the Fereldan ambassador, it is difficult not to conclude that the Guerrins can still be influential unless Alistair is king but...

 

Another point for discussion: Celene = childless and getting on, Alistair = childless, getting on and potentially infertile... What are we to make of this?

 

The proximate future for both Orlais and Ferelden looks pretty, nay, highly, confusing...

 

[Milan92]

I liked how Weekes never really revealed the ruler of Ferelden in the book.

[Maria13]

I liked how Weekes never really revealed the ruler of Ferelden in the book.

 

Yeah, that took some pretty fancy footwork, worthy of a chevalier, especially since the main bone of contention between Celene and Gaspard appears to be Ferelden...

[SomberXIII]

Probably travelling with Varric and Isabela, searching for King Maric.

[Bond]

Probably travelling with Varric and Isabela, searching for King Maric.

I hope these comics are not canon. Luckily they wont be referenced in the games, cause for me they are straight up ridicilous and childish. In my mind Maric is dead and nothing else from the comics ever happened. I hate comic books and in my mind they sure as hell lost the Dragon Age feel in those. I am not surprised that Patrick Weekes my fav writer in Bioware by a country mile is not involved in those.

[AresKeith]

I hope these comics are not canon. Luckily they wont be referenced in the games, cause for me they are straight up ridicilous and childish. In my mind Maric is dead and nothing else from the comics ever happened. I hate comic books and in my mind they sure as hell lost the Dragon Age feel in those. I am not surprised that Patrick Weekes my fav writer in Bioware by a country mile is not involved in those.

 

The comics follow Bioware's/default canon, if your canon follows certain aspects similar like Alistair being King then the comics most likely happened

[Milan92]

The comics follow Bioware's/default canon, if your canon follows certain aspects similar like Alistair being King then the comics most likely happened

 

That made me wonder. Does Alistair marry Anora in their default canon? Or is he solo ruler?

[Maria13]

I hope these comics are not canon. Luckily they wont be referenced in the games, cause for me they are straight up ridicilous and childish. In my mind Maric is dead and nothing else from the comics ever happened. I hate comic books and in my mind they sure as hell lost the Dragon Age feel in those. I am not surprised that Patrick Weekes my fav writer in Bioware by a country mile is not involved in those.

 

Well, I am afraid I must disagree, for myself I thought they were pretty good.

[Turnip]

Anora is my Queen so I'm glad it was left ambiguous. It shows that Bioware cares about everyone's canon.

I hope these comics are not canon. Luckily they wont be referenced in the games, cause for me they are straight up ridicilous and childish. In my mind Maric is dead and nothing else from the comics ever happened. I hate comic books and in my mind they sure as hell lost the Dragon Age feel in those. I am not surprised that Patrick Weekes my fav writer in Bioware by a country mile is not involved in those.

The events of the comics are canon, but if they contradict yours they happen differently in your world. If Alistair is a warden in your world, then he is a warden for the events of the comics. If you sold Isabela out to the Qunari, she escaped at some point and met up with Varric. They aren't going to contradict your canon.

That made me wonder. Does Alistair marry Anora in their default canon? Or is he solo ruler?

Does Alistair mention Anora when u meet him in Act 3 if you do one of the 3 defaults? He mentions her if they're married. I only ever use my own Origins saves so I don't know.

[Knight of Dane]

That made me wonder. Does Alistair marry Anora in their default canon? Or is he solo ruler?

The Default follows "The Martyr" preset from Dragon Age 2, wherein he is married to Anora and Loghain is a Grey Warden, the Hero made the US.

[AresKeith]

That made me wonder. Does Alistair marry Anora in their default canon? Or is he solo ruler?

 

I'm not sure, personally I think those two married are the best choice lol

[Milan92]

The Default follows "The Martyr" preset from Dragon Age 2, wherein he is married to Anora and Loghain is a Grey Warden, the Hero made the US.

 

Ah, then I have read it correctly some time ago.

[Maria13]

Does Alistair mention Anora when u meet him in Act 3 if you do one of the 3 defaults? He mentions her if they're married. I only ever use my own Origins saves so I don't know.

 

I believe he only mentions the old "ball and chain" (British slang for wife) without naming her so potentially it could be the Cousland or Anora.

[Nimlowyn]

I think what Alistair has been up to will be revealed in DA:I, if he is alive. 

[Maria13]

I believe he only mentions the old "ball and chain" (British slang for wife) without naming her so potentially it could be the Cousland or Anora.

 

Interestingly Alistair/Anora would be an almost direct reflection of Celene/Gaspard but then in medieval times many strifes were salvaged by a marriage (and others started with a marriage!).

[Former_Fiend]

I think the lack of direct mention is an effort to be as unobtrusive towards player's canon as possible. Bioware may have a default canon they work under, but that doesn't mean they want to rub it in the reader's faces.

 

Similarly, Leliana mentions to Celene how she has counted elves among her comrades in arms. In the Bioware default, the warden was dalish; but the statement is vague enough that she might just have been talking about Zevran and Sketch.

[King Cousland]

Given that BioWare have been very open about the way things are set up in their own "canon" (i.e., dead Dalish Warden, Alistair is king) I doubt there was an attempt to deliberately avoid reference to who the monarch is. Indeed, Leliana even mentions the Warden was an elf ("I have...been comrades-in-arms with elves. I would not see them harmed"). 

 

I believe Alistair's marital status has never been revealed, however. When we see him in Inquisition, I'd put money on him still being single though (providing the Warden didn't wed him or push him together with Anora, of course). 

 

In any case, the prospects of an heir aren't looking good for Orlais or Ferelden. There may be trouble ahead...

[Milan92]

Given that BioWare have been very open about the way things are set up in their own "canon" (i.e., dead Dalish Warden, Alistair is king) I doubt there was an attempt to deliberately avoid reference to who the monarch is. Indeed, Leliana even mentions the Warden was an elf ("I have...been comrades-in-arms with elves. I would not see them harmed"). 

 

I believe Alistair's marital status has never been revealed, however. When we see him in Inquisition, I'd put money on him still being single though (providing the Warden didn't wed him or push him together with Anora, of course). 

 

In any case, the prospects of an heir aren't looking good for Orlais aren't looking good. There may be trouble ahead...

 

The Inquisitor uses the might of the Inquisition to conquer both nations

[Former_Fiend]

Given that BioWare have been very open about the way things are set up in their own "canon" (i.e., dead Dalish Warden, Alistair is king) I doubt there was an attempt to deliberately avoid reference to who the monarch is. Indeed, Leliana even mentions the Warden was an elf ("I have...been comrades-in-arms with elves. I would not see them harmed"). 

 

I believe Alistair's marital status has never been revealed, however. When we see him in Inquisition, I'd put money on him still being single though (providing the Warden didn't wed him or push him together with Anora, of course). 

 

In any case, the prospects of an heir aren't looking good for Orlais aren't looking good. There may be trouble ahead...

 

Like I said; she didn't say "The warden who ended the blight was an elf". Her statement could very well be taken as referring to Zevran and Sketch. It almost certainly did refer to the Warden, but I do think they're being intentionally vague as to not slap people in the face with "THIS IS HOW IT IS".

[Maria13]

Given that BioWare have been very open about the way things are set up in their own "canon" (i.e., dead Dalish Warden, Alistair is king) I doubt there was an attempt to deliberately avoid reference to who the monarch is. Indeed, Leliana even mentions the Warden was an elf ("I have...been comrades-in-arms with elves. I would not see them harmed"). 

 

I believe Alistair's marital status has never been revealed, however. When we see him in Inquisition, I'd put money on him still being single though (providing the Warden didn't wed him or push him together with Anora, of course). 

 

In any case, the prospects of an heir aren't looking good for Orlais aren't looking good. There may be trouble ahead...

 

Leliana's reference to being comrades in arms with an elf doesn't necessarily mean the warden, let's not forget Zevran.

 

Well in DA2 King Alistair clearly mentions the "old ball and chain" so he is married.

 

Agree absolutely with the analogous situations in both Ferelden and Orlais... Are we looking at a future union or federation under one monarch?

[Maria13]

The Inquisitor uses the might of the Inquisition to conquer both nations

 

Perhaps not the inquisitor but it is a rather teasing situation....

[King Cousland]

 

Like I said; she didn't say "The warden who ended the blight was an elf". Her statement could very well be taken as referring to Zevran and Sketch. It almost certainly did refer to the Warden, but I do think they're being intentionally vague as to not slap people in the face with "THIS IS HOW IT IS".

 

Yes, it seems I was still writing my post when you published yours. What you say is very true, but BioWare have been clear about the nature of their canon not superseding players' decisions, and it isn't as though they've shied away from using it in the past. 

 

Leliana's reference to being comrades in arms with an elf doesn't necessarily mean the warden, let's not forget Zevran.

 

Well in DA2 King Alistair clearly mentions the "old ball and chain" so he is married.

 

Agree absolutely with the analogous situations in both Ferelden and Orlais... Are we looking at a future union or federation under one monarch?

 

Does Alistair always say the "ball and chain" line? I only thought that was when he was married to the Warden? 

 

As for the union question, that's certainly possible...but I think a decade of war and strife is far more likely 

[Former_Fiend]

Not everyone visits the Bioware forums. They have to take into account casual fans who played the game and just happened upon the book in the store without paying attention to anything Bioware's said on the subject of "canon". 

 

Likewise, there are the crazy fans who rail against anything other than there personal canon, no matter what Bioware says. Being vague about it in the way they did allows those fans to think that the real reason Celene's given up on her hope of marrying the king of Ferelden is because she's scared to death of their Fem-Cousland warden and wouldn't dare try and make a move on her man.

[Maria13]

Does Alistair always say the "ball and chain" line? I only thought that was when he was married to the Warden? 

 

As for the union question, that's certainly possible...but I think a decade of war and strife is far more likely 

 

 

I think he says it both for the Cousland and Anora but any clarification would be most welcome.

 

No surely not more strife!!!

[Mistic]

By the way, talking about the Bioware canon... does anybody know if the Dalish Martyr romanced anyone? Probably the least important question about Bioware's canon, but I just thought of it.