Why don't you post that video for us. I'd love to see it.
I did read the thread. I just think it's funny that you expect people to drop their lives in order to serve your needs. It's possible to learn without watching a video. Try using the Crusader.
Just for the hell of it I just did a video capture of a U/U/G HSol yesterday and stuck it on YouTube - I've not bothered to edit it or add a soundtrack so it's just me sucking with a Crusader. I use it on the HSol because with a free reload (and damage boost of course) from AR, I can miss 50% of the time and still kill stuff.
My favourite part - the fact that it takes approximately 20s from when Wave 1 starts for me to get killed (and most of that's spent running from one end or Rio to the other)... I'm so awesome 
Just for the hell of it I just did a video capture of a U/U/G HSol yesterday and stuck it on YouTube - I've not bothered to edit it or add a soundtrack so it's just me sucking with a Crusader. I use it on the HSol because with a free reload (and damage boost of course) from AR, I can miss 50% of the time and still kill stuff.
My favourite part - the fact that it takes approximately 20s from when Wave 1 starts for me to get killed (and most of that's spent running from one end or Rio to the other)... I'm so awesome
Hey, you were not sucking!
I would find it pretty tough going with the Hsol. It's hard hitting a distant enemy with such a pin-sharp weapon.
I favour using a character with a stun power such as TGI, or my current fave HE. Use overload to stun, giving you time to line up that distant head-shot.
Another tactic is to use Geth scanner and catch sleeping enemies.
Don't be too hard on yourself, it was good!
If I had screen capture I would do one myself, then you would see what sucking really was! (I suck equally with all weapons!)
Ahem. Did you read the thread? I've asked crusader's pros who suggested I should l2p to teach me, to show me how do they perform dem snapshots. If I knew how to compensate during fast target shooting with stock crusader, I would have done that video (but then, there would have been no reason).
Lrn2leadyourshots&stopbeingascrub
Ahem. Did you read the thread? I've asked crusader's pros who suggested I should l2p to teach me, to show me how do they perform dem snapshots. If I knew how to compensate during fast target shooting with stock crusader, I would have done that video (but then, there would have been no reason).
I'll show you that when you show me you shooting an acolyte through a 5m wall by stacking piercing. Is it bad design that the acolyte can't pierce? Stop getting so hung up on twitch headshotting. It's not the only way to shoot a gun.
That was a design choice. Not an unintended consequence of coding the base class and then putting something in referencing the same thing despite being fundamentally different.
That was a design choice. Not an unintended consequence of coding the base class and then putting something in referencing the same thing despite being fundamentally different.
The crusader requires a similar degree of leading that the kishock does. It's more than possible to hit targets that are moving, you just have to aim ahead of them and most importantly : Keep aiming even after you've pressed the trigger.
I think the biggest problem people have is that the crusader fires AFTER you press your trigger, not with the usual minimal hardware latency delay that hit scan weapons usually have. Don't stop aiming after you press the trigger.
There's also no projectile, and no velocity, so understanding how to mentally compute the speed / distance / time thing is a little harder than with other weapons.
The crusader CAN snap headshot. I've got a fair few clips I'm going to put together showing what is possible when the delay is accounted for.
All other things considered, it's a really frustrating gun to use.
Does it have character? Yes.
Is that character a good thing? Hell no.
Whining about it won't change it. If you don't want to use a perfectly fine gun because you have to adapt then so be it. But saying it's broken and unusable just isn't true.
Whining did help because it went on the bug list and then someone fixed it. 
I agree it is usable in the default state, but it was bugged and it is better when it is more in line with nearly every other hitscan gun in the game. The fact that it was usable in the default state was why Bioware never fixed it.
The crusader requires a similar degree of leading that the kishock does. It's more than possible to hit targets that are moving, you just have to aim ahead of them and most importantly : Keep aiming even after you've pressed the trigger.
Huh? The delayed firing is supposed to go where the crosshairs were when you pressed the trigger. That's the main issue, otherwise it would behave similarly to the Javelin. I guess as a practice that increases your likelihood of that happening that could be beneficial, but it shouldn't be strictly necessary.
And in reality since there isn't time of flight it only vaguely approximates something of a projectile weapon since it is practically only the degree of the targets lateral movement rather than distance to target that should matter.
Oh, thanks, would be nice to see yours vids.The crusader CAN snap headshot. I've got a fair few clips I'm going to put together showing what is possible when the delay is accounted for.
All other things considered, it's a really frustrating gun to use.
Does it have character? Yes.
Is that character a good thing? Hell no.
It was buffed because it was ultra-rare.
It is still heavy with moderate ammo capacity. It isn't like it is the end all and be all of weapons without the delay. Not when things like the Talon, Reegar, and Arc Pistol exist.
It was buffed because it was ultra-rare.
It is still heavy with moderate ammo capacity. It isn't like it is the end all and be all of weapons without the delay. Not when things like the Talon, Reegar, and Arc Pistol exist.
I can't agree actually. Without the delay it would have been at least almost as OP as lolArc.
Disclaimer: I've contacted Caratinoid to get his permission on using it for public purposes, but he hasn't been around since march (if his profile doesn't lie), so I gonna do a scrubby thing now.
Ok, I've done several NR solos with fixed Crusader today.
TSent. Overload (damage, NS, damage) is only for pesky bit**es and turret. No need for chain when crusader shoots as a normal hitscun gun.
GTS-weapon platform: 1st try, 2nd try.
The times (24,29,27) are not exciting, yeah, but I am a scrub and wasn't able to do better with freaking lazor for example. And crusader has a better boss deeps than ppr. Crusader though allowed me to feel myself extremely comfortable in that aquarium with phantoms, so comfortable that I hadn't even thought about rocketing objectives. If I had to fight with delay... I am not a marksman even without delay.
And I don't think I can do better with Talon on those guys, and even if I could, Talon, while tight enough, doesn't have a sniper range.
Whining did help because it went on the bug list and then someone fixed it.
I agree it is usable in the default state, but it was bugged and it is better when it is more in line with nearly every other hitscan gun in the game. The fact that it was usable in the default state was why Bioware never fixed it.
Huh? The delayed firing is supposed to go where the crosshairs were when you pressed the trigger. That's the main issue, otherwise it would behave similarly to the Javelin. I guess as a practice that increases your likelihood of that happening that could be beneficial, but it shouldn't be strictly necessary.
And in reality since there isn't time of flight it only vaguely approximates something of a projectile weapon since it is practically only the degree of the targets lateral movement rather than distance to target that should matter.
What I mean, is you need to account for an extra 10th of a second of movement, and aiming ahead of the enemy model and keeping aiming solves a lot of the issues and will get you more accustomed to leading your shots. Press the trigger, and keep aiming. Hardware latency typically will throw off any aiming you do with the gun.
What I mean, is you need to account for an extra 10th of a second of movement, and aiming ahead of the enemy model and keeping aiming solves a lot of the issues and will get you more accustomed to leading your shots. Press the trigger, and keep aiming. Hardware latency typically will throw off any aiming you do with the gun.
I.e. i shoud continue to lead my shot ahead of target while I've pressed the trigger, until I get the "jump" of the crosshair due to recoil?
Hey, you were not sucking!
I would find it pretty tough going with the Hsol. It's hard hitting a distant enemy with such a pin-sharp weapon.
I favour using a character with a stun power such as TGI, or my current fave HE. Use overload to stun, giving you time to line up that distant head-shot.
Another tactic is to use Geth scanner and catch sleeping enemies.
Don't be too hard on yourself, it was good!
If I had screen capture I would do one myself, then you would see what sucking really was!
Kinda the point though ... I don't like relying on a stagger power, especially not with a gun that weighs as much as a bus
I'm much happier using guns where I don't have to take careful aim (especially when that aim has extra quirkiness) - run at stuff, shoot it till it falls over; or better yet, punch it in the face!
I can't agree actually. Without the delay it would have been at least almost as OP as lolArc.
And crusader has a better boss deeps than ppr.
Yes, so I disagree with you on those points. Arc Pistol one-shots a host of protected units. There is a reason that most of the really fast gold solos with various characters was Arc Pistol.
Also the boss DPS isn't really correct. My GTS can one-clip a gold Atlas with the PPR w/ AP ammo which means you are more in the PPR's single clip DPS territory for many targets.
And in any event Crusader is heavier than all of those examples.
Crusader 2.0
PPR 1.4
Arc Pistol 0.6
Talon 0.6
Really the closest thing is the Saber (1.4), but the difference is that while the Crusader has better sustained DPS numbers, Saber can still one-shot most trash units that the Crusader can, it is just that it can do it 14 times before reloading. For shielded units both take 2 shots due to shieldgate.
i dlike to use the gun again, but a fix wld be appreciated. smdy cld share this common knowledge ? I have read few pagesn and still doesnt get what the bug really is neither how to fix it
The gun fires 0.1s later than you press the fire button. Simple enough?
where your crosshair was at the time you clicked ? seems to be the caseThe gun fires 0.1s later than you press the fire button. Simple enough?
where your crosshair was at the time you clicked ? seems to be the case
Yup. Thus the weird.
The crusader requires a similar degree of leading that the kishock does. It's more than possible to hit targets that are moving, you just have to aim ahead of them and most importantly : Keep aiming even after you've pressed the trigger.
I think the biggest problem people have is that the crusader fires AFTER you press your trigger, not with the usual minimal hardware latency delay that hit scan weapons usually have. Don't stop aiming after you press the trigger.
There's also no projectile, and no velocity, so understanding how to mentally compute the speed / distance / time thing is a little harder than with other weapons.
The crusader CAN snap headshot. I've got a fair few clips I'm going to put together showing what is possible when the delay is accounted for.
All other things considered, it's a really frustrating gun to use.
Does it have character? Yes.
Is that character a good thing? Hell no.
I have to agree with RTK2Lional, its true sometimes you'd swear you had hit the target but the enemy is just fine, its annoying I get that. try again. U got 4 shots use em.
I think the best shotgun matter is something that comes down to preference. But saying Crusader doesnt reward good aim, who really believes this?
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