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[Nashimura]

My canon has drunk Alistair.... honestly, i hope he sobers up and gets back to his best by the time inquisition takes place. 

[Generic Guy]

In my three playthoroughs, hes a drunk, a king with Anora as queen, and the third, originally, king solo but I might change it to warden to see what happens

[SpringPower]

DAA Spoiler response. Do not read if you have not played DAA.

 

I would hope this scenario would be in the Keep. Some had him as King, others as a Grey Warden, and some may have sacrificed him at the end of DAA. When I played through, DAA and DAO, he was the King, so I would like to keep that line going, and hopefully the Keep will allow me to do so.

[Battlebloodmage]

I spared Loghain while Alistair ran away crying like a baby. I hope to see him in a ditch somewhere, drunk out of his buns.  

[Samahl]

Alistair will be dead in my Hayden playthrough, king in my Issala and Revas playthroughs, and a drunkard in my Samahl playthrough. I'm not sure about Meraad and Mana yet, but he'll probably be a Grey Warden in both.

[Emby]

Warden in my Canon, but King-Consort alongside Anora for secondary game. I keep him as a Warden in most of my playthroughs, though, and never solo King Alistair. Ever.

[Ulathar]

In my main playthrough/world-state which is also the one I'll create with the keep first, Alistair is dead, so I hope I won't see him at all in my first DA:I playthrough.

[acid_rain82]

as king

[Riverway_Inca]

Personally, I don't understand how anyone could hate Alistair or have him killed. I was so touched by his innocence, his pure-heartedness, how he would get so awkward sometimes because he was so good-hearted and naïve; add to all of that how Steve Valentine spoke some of his lines, and boy, I've never fallen in love with a VG character in that way before or since. Alistair is really such an original character; I've never encountered anyone like him in a VG before, and his idealism and such straightforward goodness should make him rather implausible, but somehow it all comes together beautifully. That is the genius of David Gaider's writing, and I must add that Morrigan was equally as compelling and wonderfully realized, but just in a different way. For those reasons alone, I'm planning to interact as fully as I can with both Cassandra and Dorian in DAI, and I probably wouldn't have been as keen to do so had they been written by someone else.

 

So yes, I'm thrilled that Alistair returns in DAI (I would have been very sad if he hadn't, and Bioware, please have him back for all future DA games!), and of course in my DA world Alistair is king and married to a lady as wonderful as him, and anything I can do in DAI to ensure that those two live happily ever after, you can bet I'll do, and how!

[Mistic]

Personally, I don't understand how anyone could hate Alistair or have him killed. I was so touched by his innocence, his pure-heartedness, how he would get so awkward sometimes because he was so good-hearted and naïve; add to all of that how Steve Valentine spoke some of his lines, and boy, I've never fallen in love with a VG character in that way before or since. Alistair is really such an original character; I've never encountered anyone like him in a VG before, and his idealism and such straightforward goodness should make him rather implausible, but somehow it all comes together beautifully. That is the genius of David Gaider's writing, and I must add that Morrigan was equally as compelling and wonderfully realized, but just in a different way. For those reasons alone, I'm planning to interact as fully as I can with both Cassandra and Dorian in DAI, and I probably wouldn't have been as keen to do so had they been written by someone else.

 

True, but there are other more characteristics about him that are not so compelling for others.

 

His naivety is a double-edged sword. If you play a ruthless pragmatist, Alistair is a liability. Alistair is also the senior Warden, but his refusal to assume his responsibilities forces the junior Warden to take the helm. A born leader Warden may not care, but what about reluctant Wardens, follower type Wardens or Wardens who were forcibly conscripted? He's so good-hearted that he's ready to trust Arl Eamon in a political struggle, the same man who didn't treat him very well when he was a kid. Yet he has a deep hate for Loghain and can derail your plans if you wanted a more peaceful solution.

 

Truth be told, the option to harden him makes some of his perceived flaws less glaring, so the player has that solution too if they don't like his initial stance. Personally, I've never killed him in any playthrough, nor I have made him a drunk, but I can understand why some people don't feel that Alistair deserves their sympathies.

[Riverway_Inca]

Oh Mistic, I agree with you in that Alistair is hardly a perfect character. In my subsequent playthroughs after my initial effort, where I played in a 'harder' style and was more dismissive of Alistair's 'whining', I found myself being very annoyed by his intractability, especially during the Landsmeet. But I still couldn't have him killed; banished maybe, but not killed. And that's because he's too endearing a character; that despite what many might perceive as his 'weakness', how he always shuffles his feet (I didn't notice too much of a change in this regard even after he had been hardened), his good intentions and likeability shine through...sure, he may be flawed, but so are the people in our real lives and we love them anyway because the good outweighs the bad and we know that they mean well!

 

So yeah, I can understand how those who wanted to play as ruthless pragmatists may have found Alistair annoying, but to actively hate him and want him dead, that I don't get. Same as with Morrigan; there were many instances where I downright disliked her, but yet I could never send her away or refuse her at important moments because she was just too interesting and compelling a character for me to dismiss her outright.

[Mistic]

I have to agre with you, Rivarway_Inca. After all, Bioware wirters have said time and time again that they want to create characters that make players feel something. Different characters mean different things for different people. Whatever is better than thinking "meh" when you meet a character.

 

Alistair was one of my favourite companions in DA:O. Well, to be honest, I liked almost all of them, for different reasons. I think it was one of the best casts in a Bioware game.

[Skymaple]

My Alistair is always king... He was so nice to my warden, I had to make him king... I once took Loghain but it felt so wrong I reloaded haha.

Well, always but once... I romanced him with my warden (with a mod) but my warden was a city elf... and when he told him he had to leave him to be king I got sooo mad at him for all his "duty before love" nonsense, that I reloaded and almost killed him - I actually left him as warden so they could be together... But since that moment I lost faith on Alistair... I can't think of him as I used to... He's a practical **** and I hated it

[SetecAstronomy]

My Alistair died killing the Archdaemon, which sucks because he and my Warden were a couple. Heck, my Warden even broke up with Leliana mid-game to get with him. No DR performed because Morrigan ... just... ewww. So when it came time to make the sacrifice Alistair couldn't stand to see my Warden die. He made the call to take one for the team.

 

All of this of course after he had agreed to be king without Anora, so I guess she sits the throne now.

 

Ah, the bittersweetness of it all.

[Mr.Hmm]

I would prefer Alistair as a Warden, besides he seems to hate to be a king plus his attitude(I kind of ment Personality but it  can be both...) its more suited to Grey Warden than a King.

 

Well that's my opinion.

[Milan92]

Wandering drunk Alistair.

[Battlebloodmage]

Personally, I don't understand how anyone could hate Alistair or have him killed.

He rejected me.

[meganbytez]

deciding if alistair should be king or grey warden was incredibly difficult for me. alistair said something in banter one time with lelianna tho that was like something along the lines of preferring to be weak sometimes and that its okay to be. and that made me want to make him king. because i was worried about him being so weak and i knew anora was strong, but i don't think being a bit weak is a terrible thing. like that was the defining moment that i made my decision lol. i was also influenced by the fact my warden is dalish elf and i guess alistair does some things for the elves that anora dosnt. and then something alistair said about people like loghain and anora thinking they should be deciding everything or something. but if one of those three things didnt happen i don't think it'd have made alistair king. so he'll be king in my main playthro. altho i do think anora would also be good and alistair as a grey warden is more genuine to me. i actually made anora queen in my first playthro right away. but obviously changed later. *sigh* i still struggle with it haha. we'll see how it effects inquisition. 

 

sometimes i think deciding to make alistair king or grey warden is almost like deicing if Anderson or Udina should be the human counselor in mass effect. cuz like Anderson dosnt want to be and even tho Udina is renegade, he knows what he is doing and is good at it in his own way.

[DashRashh]

So in the trailers we see the Inquisition attacking the Grey Wardens and we all want to know why but if we let Alistair stay with the Grey Warden what do you think will happen ?

[Lebanese Dude]

He rejected me.

 

He never had the option to reject you

[Estelindis]

 

sometimes i think deciding to make alistair king or grey warden is almost like deicing if Anderson or Udina should be the human counselor in mass effect. cuz like Anderson dosnt want to be and even tho Udina is renegade, he knows what he is doing and is good at it in his own way.

 

I hope it's not, given that Udina ended up as Councillor regardless of who you chose.  

 

But yes: this is a really difficult decision for me.  I feel like Alistair would be happier staying as a Warden, and I want him to be happy... but I think that he wouldn't be the terrible king that he's afraid of being, and a lot of his reluctance is based on that fear.  Actually, as a monarch, I think he would do more for ordinary and oppressed people than Anora, and I have to take their needs and interests into account too, so Alistair pretty much always became king in my playthroughs, unless he last-minute-surprise-sacrificed himself.  I might make one world state in the keep where he's a Warden, though, just to see what happens...

[DashRashh]

He never had the option to reject you

 

What do you think about what I asked ?

So in the trailers we see the Inquisition attacking the Grey Wardens and we all want to know why but if we let Alistair stay with the Grey Warden what do you think will happen ?

[The Loyal Nub]

I've never finished DA2 but I did just finish Origins as I wanted to have at least done that before this game. I loved Origins but putting Alistair on that throne was not a comfortable decision.

 

There was no way I was going to give it to Anora. Too much ambition and a sense of entitlement there for my tastes. But Alistair, I'd never liked him during the story. He came across at all times as weak, whiny, and of poor character, despite what you'd think his upbringing would have given him.

 

I wanted to try to show mercy to Loghain at the end. Alistair who'd played the noble soul throughout the campaign surprised me with his cruelty and I refused to allow my Warden to kill for him so I told Alistair the murder of an unarmed man must be on his hands. Then the credits rolled which pretty much told me that Alistair had the common touch but no affinity for administration or the hard work of the job. I fear I have put a weak man on the throne. Not an Alistair fan at all. 

[Jagrevi]

He's a drunk in a tavern, so honestly I hope not to ever meet him again, as we already did that cameo in DA2.

(There's a false dichotomy in the OP that bothers me)