A glimmer of the game I wanted to play. Humour, action and charcater "fun" time (Grunt as concierge at the door during the party was priceless). Just a shame that after it was over it went back to that depressing cobblers regarded as the official story.
Is that a fancy word for Bouncer, cause Grunt was a bouncer if anything.
Getting aid for the Krogan doesnt make sense? Perhaps depending on point of view.
Getting away from all the women that wanted to **** his hips into mush? Makes me wanna quote Zapp Branigan, post a gif, and feel much sympathy.
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Tell me there's fanart of Eve saying 'IT TIME SNU-SNU!' to Wrex.
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Tell me there's fanart of Eve saying 'IT TIME SNU-SNU!' to Wrex.
Probably. Most likely due to Rule 34.
Wrex's appearance made no sense (really, most of the ME2 squad's appearance made no sense; the damn story didn't make any sense).
Yeah, I used you as bait. I needed a weapon.
Drunk Tali could get her faceplate punched in. Toilet humor is lame.
The campy stuff was crap.
Granted, I liked a lot of it, but at the same time, I'd sacrifice all the humor for logic and rationality. And have it be grim humor. Black, sardonic, caustic wit.
Sorry my man, you're not harshing my citadel dlc buzz.
If you're looking for "Humour, action and 'character fun time,'" I really have no idea why you're playing Mass Effect at all instead of watching cartoons or something.
And that's not an insult. Just the simple and, at least I thought, obvious fact that 'character fun time' is something cartoons are going to do well and a story about most of the galaxy being horrifically killed is not going ot do well.
I dunno, outside of the citadel dlc, I always thought the mass effect games had plenty of humor and even some character fun time, and that they did it pretty well.
Some. But it was never the central focus of the story as xray16 apparently wishes it to be.
Yeah but that's part of why, in my opinion, the citadel dlc works so well. It's not like it was part of the vanilla game straight outta the box. It's like, "this is it for ME3 guys. We hope you enjoy it." ... so I say why not take a break from most of the galaxy being horrifically killed and enjoy it for what it is. And if you don't like the humor, fine. Fair enough. But that goes the other way too; If people do like the humor, fine. Fair enough.
People who wanted grim dark got it by the bucket-load in the vanilla game, plus every other DLC.
People who wanted grim dark got it by the bucket-load in the vanilla game, plus every other DLC.
That they did. And I'm totally fine with it myself, cuz it sure makes me appreciate that moment in between Horizon and the attack on Cronos Station when I can go have dinner with Joker.... and that sounded a lot less awkward in my head.
No. They didn't. There are plenty of successes and uplifting moments in the vanilla game. If you actually want 'uplifting' stories, you're doing them a disservice by using childish terms like 'grim dark' and making these kinds of complaints.
People who wanted grim dark got it by the bucket-load in the vanilla game, plus every other DLC.
Jesus Christ...
You gotta do better than this, people.
I don't think Grunt would ever let you into Anderson's apartment.
No. They didn't. There are plenty of successes and uplifting moments in the vanilla game. If you actually want 'uplifting' stories, you're doing them a disservice by using childish terms like 'grim dark' and making these kinds of complaints.
I wasn't aware that they were mutually exclusive. Perhaps you could show me where I said that there weren't any successes or uplifting moments in the vanilla game.
On balance, ME3 is not an upbeat game, and that's absolutely fine. However, in terms of final DLC, the last content we'll get for the trilogy, personally, I didn't want more grim dark piled on top of the grim dark ending to the trilogy's narrative.
Yeah. They pretty much are mutally exclusive. If the most important moments of a story of triumphant and uplifting, it's not a 'grim dark' story.
Yeah. They pretty much are mutally exclusive. If the most important moments of a story of triumphant and uplifting, it's not a 'grim dark' story.
You've undermined your own argument - I seriously doubt that many people are going to be describing ME3's ending as either 'triumphant' or 'uplifting'. If it's a victory at all then it's incredibly hollow.
Equally, a story that involves half of the galaxy being wiped out isn't considered 'dark' or 'grim'?
In this instance however, the mutual exclusivity was around my apparent denial of any moments of success or victory simply because I'd stated that there's plenty of 'grim dark' in the game. That's really not how it works.
And the tone of the ending is a tremendous problem. But the rest of the game is perfectly suitible in its tone.
As for half the galaxy being wiped out...pretty much every 'epic' story in existence has great battles in which countless innocents die. Where the good guys lose a great deal. It's just the nature of having a great evil in your story.
Granted, I liked a lot of it, but at the same time, I'd sacrifice all the humor for logic and rationality. And have it be grim humor. Black, sardonic, caustic wit.
It's not as if we got logic and rationality in the depressing mess either, at least Citadel was enjoyable. I wouldn't want a whole game like that but it's great for a single DLC at a point where we know and like the characters as much as we ever will (wouldn't have worked as an ME1 DLC).
What's truly depressing is how readily the BSN pats itself on the back for making the grand gesture of supposedly supporting 'logic' which of course is overwhelmingly a spit in the face to actual reasoning.
And the tone of the ending is a tremendous problem. But the rest of the game is perfectly suitible in its tone.
As for half the galaxy being wiped out...pretty much every 'epic' story in existence has great battles in which countless innocents die. Where the good guys lose a great deal. It's just the nature of having a great evil in your story.
The tone of the rest of the game IS fine. IMO. The ending, was NOT. IMO. The problem that gives me is that it's dark and depressing piled on top of dark and depressing.
Yes, there are successes throughout the game - Hooray I brokered piece between the Geth and the Quarians - Oh sh*t, I just wiped out the Geth with the AI death beam.....Yippee, I've cured the Genophage - Oh sh*t I've just stranded Wrex in the Sol system. Thessia's free - Shame Liara will never see it again....etc etc.
I'm not criticising 'dark' storytelling - in many ways, I actually prefer it. Even in terms of the ending, I don't dislike it simply because it's a hollow victory, that's fine too. I saw ME3 as a long, hard slog - yes, punctuated, with moments of success, but generally, following a downward spiral into a finale that provided the merest uptick in tone. For me, that didn't work. The Citadel DLC, was tonally different, and was a tone that I welcomed having experienced the ending beforehand. Narratively, it makes little sense - hooray, a party while the rest of the galaxy burns, but I'd long since given up on the narrative making any sense at the time of playing the DLC.
Why don't you try making an argument for uplifting content without the pettiness, childish whining, and petulent begging?
Yeah, Grunt would definitely keep you out of Anderson's apartment.
Yeah, Grunt would definitely keep you out of Anderson's apartment.
I like how you're providing comic relief....I feel a lot of negativity in the air.....
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