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I don't really want heels either, but I can visualize the opposition on the ground and the very pointed heel going into their head.  That said, I hope there is an option to change what everyone is wearing and just keeping the heels for special occasions.  

ME 3 did that ^^ I had fun with legacy  oops going off topic. haha



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I think it was jousting type, cause was something better worn on horseback than walking around in. But he is a very goofy type guy.
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I do not want heels in battle for women unless they are offered as an equally ridiculous option for both genders to traipse around the field breaking their ankes in the heat of battle. Equaly opportunity idiocy, FTW! Same goes for skirts. The battle skirt looking things in origins were fine but I do not want to see bits of fabric flying around to get stuck in something.

Riding boots still have a heel to prevent the foot from sliding through the stirrups. Bad things can happen if your foot gets stuck in the stirrup when you, say, fall off and your foot is stuck so you get dragged by the horse. BUT, these are not heels in the sense that the OP is proposing (based on the images presented). They are square and no more than an inch in height. I cannot imagine mounting or dismounting a horse in actual high heels! Lol! Here's an example of riding boots:

 

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I really don't know what kind of footwear mounted infantry wears. Most modern day riding boots aren't good for slogging through mud and what not as they are also slick. Awhile ago, I was leading my horse down a steep muddy hill as it was too dangerous to ride down. She was slipping and so was I. Let me tell you, having a 1200 lb animal sliding behind you is unnerving. Anyway, she started to slide into me and I accidently dropped the reins in my haste to get away. She turned around and took off up the hill into the forest. I freaked as dangling reins can be dangerous for a horse (they can get tangled and injure themselves) and tried to walk back up the muddy hill in my riding boots. I fell face first as I couldn't get any traction. I got up, tried again and faceplanted again. Luckily, I was able to coax her back to me. At any rate, riding boots aren't the best example of what people should be wearing in battle. Although, they are probably light years better than high heels!

 

That was what I meant, but some people saw as "party style high heels", as I was creating the topic in an hour of my work, I ask to forgive me I could not find any illustrations to show what I was thinking, of course this is impractical, but it is a fantasy game, and I did not see my character wearing the boots of MegaMan Hahahahahahah!



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Topic reviewed and tidy as suggested, Thanks.  :D 



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Fencing uses lighter swords, so I imagine the risk of breaking bones in general is pretty minimal.


Fencing weapons are flexible, but that doesn't mean they can't leave some mighty welts if you have impale yourself on one. The more important thing to remember is that fencing weapons (excepting sabre) are thrusting weapons, so their deadlier counterparts aren't breaking bones either. They are designed to penetrate weak points in the armor, and the blades aren't wide or stiff enough to do the bone-crushing work. Swords are generally fairly flexible, and weapons like the estoc aren't intended to penetrate the plate but rather to find the gaps.

Didn't a bunch of archers that where wearing light to no armor, Kill a bunch of heavly armored knighs at the battle of Ashencore. Th e French knights got stuck in the mud and didn't even have high heels on


Agincourt. The English line was also comprised of knights in plate armor. Basically, French hubris got the best of them, and they walked right into a deathtrap where their numbers actually hurt them. The French missed every opportunity to end the battle quickly, leaving the English to set up full defenses and then attacking them in a disorganized mess. When the English didn't immediately beg for mercy like the French expected, the French advance crushed itself. The fresh English archers dove in with mallets and daggers (good for finding the weak spots) and cleaned house. Systematic slaughter, like the Battle of Cannae. Moral of the story: armor won't save you from massive tactical blunders.

Oh no ... boob plate is too apellative :sick:


In this illustration, the artist values ​​the thorax without using boob plate.

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That's not bad at all except for the artist going a bit too far with the asymmetry (which isn't a question of femininity at all). The warrior here is right-handed, and she will fight with her left side away from the opponent. The problem, as all fencers know, is that you still get hit on the offhand side of the body now and then. The lack of armor on the left leg is even worse, because while you don't cross over all the time (bad form), you certainly wouldn't want to take mobility out of your arsenal for no good reason.

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Feminist mode ON: oh so I need heels and skirts to be "feminine"?! man can't wear those too?! I'm not a "woman" if I don't wear heels and skirts?! HUH?!?!?!?!

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Feminist mode ON: oh so I need heels and skirts to be "feminine"?! man can't wear those too?! I'm not a "woman" if I don't wear heels and skirts?! HUH?!?!?!?!


I might be missing something to who your relating to, sorry.

But I found most everyone agrees in here to no high heels and equal clothing between each gender.
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I might be missing something to who your relating to, sorry.

But I found most everyone agrees in here to no high heels and equal clothing between each gender.

I'm guessing it's something to do with this, particularly the last bolded and italicised sentence and the possibly unintentional implication one could draw that women who don't want particularly feminine armour aren't real women.

 

Some people did not understand what I mean to suggest in this topic, In any of my suggestions I never say bikinis or something, please do not criticize or confused before giving your opinion, I put the images are just examples, using your imagination in a logical manner.

some people are looking this topic in vulgar side and was not what I wanted.

 

1- I never say HIGH heels, I say more heels, nothing fancy and nothing vulgar, is obvious that we do not fight on a catwalk.

 

2- We must have a notion of reality of course, but people here (mostly men) are really just looking this concept only in female equipment, and if we think only in reality ''how could a man, even a Qunari carrying kg of iron in your body ? if we think only in reality, as we load so heavy items in our inventory without a backpack, or how can a human being carries a two-handed sword so big ? and the mages ... the first shard of any fragment hitting one of your ''clothes'' would have already killed

 

If any kind of suggestion or any sort of expression of womans, was taken to an ordinary side, then we are really in a world controlled by men!

Note I put the last sentence in bold italics to make it easier to see which one I was talking about. Also this is my guess at what that post was about and the message taken from it.

 

On topic: I can live with the riding boot type heel but I'm not a fan of skirts or long robes and would prefer even my mages to wear more practical attire for fighting/adventuring with the option of maybe less practical casual clothes for relaxing but as long as 'feminine' armours are optional for both genders I'm cool with them being an option alongside more neutral armours. 


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Feminist mode ON: oh so I need heels and skirts to be "feminine"?! man can't wear those too?! I'm not a "woman" if I don't wear heels and skirts?! HUH?!?!?!?!

So what if women want to wear this thinks they can't because you don't like it. This is just hypocrisy of you, and you just forcing your opinion.

man can't wear those too? yes we can. But we have so little and people like you just don't see or care. I guess you don't have problem whit this picture.

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But Maker forbids, we can't have this, because of people like you.

 

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Granted, Spartans did wear armor, not as portrayed by 300 movie.  :) 



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I can do without that 300 look myself.

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Hmm... those two armour sets would certainly look great on my enemies. It would make them easier to target with my bow, anyway.
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Agincourt. The English line was also comprised of knights in plate armor. Basically, French hubris got the best of them, and they walked right into a deathtrap where their numbers actually hurt them. The French missed every opportunity to end the battle quickly, leaving the English to set up full defenses and then attacking them in a disorganized mess. When the English didn't immediately beg for mercy like the French expected, the French advance crushed itself. The fresh English archers dove in with mallets and daggers (good for finding the weak spots) and cleaned house. Systematic slaughter, like the Battle of Cannae. Moral of the story: armor won't save you from massive tactical blunders.


Orleans: We are enough yet living in the field to swallow up the English in our throngs, if any order might be thought upon.

Bourbon: The devil take order now! I'll to the throng. Let life be short, else shame will be too long.

Not too far off.

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Your troll&/sarcasm detector is off  :crying:



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Hmm... those two armour sets would certainly look great on my enemies. It would make them easier to target with my bow, anyway.

I dare you. :lol:

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Where does he get those wonderful toys?
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Check out this video.

It is relevant to this discussion.

 



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Where does he get those wonderful toys?

I have feeling you referring to me but I don't understand what you ask.



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I have feeling you referring to me but I don't understand what you ask.


A Joker quote from the movie Batman (1989).

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Feminist mode ON: oh so I need heels and skirts to be "feminine"?! man can't wear those too?! I'm not a "woman" if I don't wear heels and skirts?! HUH?!?!?!?!

 

"Feminist mode ON"

 

You saw how some of you take it to a bad side  :( (Now I'm being called a feminist), because I give my opinion ?

 

"oh so I need heels and skirts to be "feminine"?! man can't wear those too?"

 

If your opinion is this, create a topic is simple ... but rest assured, I'll give my honest and educated opinions.

 

 

I'm guessing it's something to do with this, particularly the last bolded and italicised sentence and the possibly unintentional implication one could draw that women who don't want particularly feminine armour aren't real women.
 
Note I put the last sentence in bold italics to make it easier to see which one I was talking about. Also this is my guess at what that post was about and the message taken from it.
 
On topic: I can live with the riding boot type heel but I'm not a fan of skirts or long robes and would prefer even my mages to wear more practical attire for fighting/adventuring with the option of maybe less practical casual clothes for relaxing but as long as 'feminine' armours are optional for both genders I'm cool with them being an option alongside more neutral armours.

 

"I might be missing something to who your relating to, sorry.
 
But I found most everyone agrees in here to no high heels and equal clothing between each gender.
I'm guessing it's something to do with this, particularly the last bolded and italicised sentence and the possibly unintentional implication one could draw that women who don't want particularly feminine armour aren't real women."
 
I just wanted something more beautiful to my characters  ... just style ...
 
"Note I put the last sentence in bold italics to make it easier to see which one I was talking about. Also this is my guess at what that post was about and the message taken from it."
 
At no point in this topic I said "real women", All I wrote some people attacked me a stone, posting big pictures ...
 
"On topic: I can live with the riding boot type heel but I'm not a fan of skirts or long robes and would prefer even my mages to wear more practical attire for fighting/adventuring with the option of maybe less practical casual clothes for relaxing but as long as 'feminine' armours are optional for both genders I'm cool with them being an option alongside more neutral armours."
 
If your opinion is this, create a topic is simple ... but rest assured, I'll give my honest and educated opinions.
 

So what if women want to wear this thinks they can't because you don't like it. This is just hypocrisy of you, and you just forcing your opinion.
man can't wear those too? yes we can. But we have so little and people like you just don't see or care. I guess you don't have problem whit this picture.
3003.jpg
 
But Maker forbids, we can't have this, because of people like you.
 
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Thanks 9TailsFox

 

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Now ... I regretted to create this topic, I imagined that the public would be more open minded, its better express myself  with my drawings even ...

 



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OK  First off.  there is NOTHING wrong with being a feminist.  Lets get that straight.   :)

 

Second,  I think it's a good subject and thanks for starting it.  Personally I just want options in styles.  Lots of them, it's one of the things I do like a lot about Skyrim.  Since I keep these games forever and replay a lot, it's nice to have something to make each of the characters just a little different and clothing is a good way to make a statement.  -  I'm a serious warrior wanting my armor to show it will take a lot to kill me.  I'm a stylish funny rogue knowing my biggest strength is in my speed and distracting my enemy with one hand, while I kill them with the other.  I'm a  powerful mage, fear me because of my power which will protect me from your sword.  

 

And I've read some books where they a thief or rogues had clothing which would distract whoever they were fighting and cause some of the knife strikes to miss because it would get tangled in the cloth.  May not be practical in real life, but great fun in a video game.  


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That was what I meant, but some people saw as "party style high heels", as I was creating the topic in an hour of my work, I ask to forgive me I could not find any illustrations to show what I was thinking, of course this is impractical, but it is a fantasy game, and I did not see my character wearing the boots of MegaMan Hahahahahahah!

I understand. MegaMan boots, boo! I do like my characters to look nice and there is not anything necessarily wrong with feminine (the idea that feminine is automaticalliy bad is just as sexist as masculine is automatically good) so long as it is practical for the task at hand. Someone mentioned nice scroll work on armor. I personally think that clean lines instead of bulky looks nice on my female characters. To be honest, some of the bulky bits added to armor in DA2 were ridiculous and impractical, IMO.

 

When I ride, I wear practical clothing that also looks nice. Riding breeches with a full seat to prevent sliding in the saddle and close fitting vests that won't get in the way while I ride, riding boots and a helmet. All of this gear is practical but I add my own twist to make it look nice. I pick colors that I love for my vests (often coordinating with my saddle pads, lol) and nice looking boots. There are absolutely adorable helmets to chooose from with pretty colors and designs (although I just go with a dark grey). When I took karate, I would obviously wear my gi and belt but would find cute headbands that coordinated with my belt and kept my hair out of the way. My point is, there are ways to bring personal style to the table without sacrificing functionality or sexualizing a character. You just have to be creative, which ya' know, the art department at BW should have that in spades!


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Check out this video.

It is relevant to this discussion.

 

 

Dragons Crow is disgusting, Dead or alive, and is the most racist and prejudiced game I've ever seen.

Dead or Alive 5 is ... All female characters are just "meat sexual object" with no brains and balancing large boobs ... and the only african-american fighter is the joker of the game shown in ridiculous forms.

Unfortunately I realized that this is a stigma, therefore any kind of expression (as my topic) will be attacked or being called "feminist" as said Exaltation member, and the market continues with MMORPG's and Dead or Alives ....


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Now ... I regretted to create this topic, I imagined that the public would be more open minded, its better express myself  with my drawings even ...

 

No need to feel regret, mopotter is right on that.

 

 

I used to own a horse myself. There were a few girls there that when they rode english style, they had those outfits on that are done in shows. One wore browns and blacks, another wore some pink in hers. I never did that english style, I just wore whatever I was wearing. Its been along time since I ridden one now. Ponies, had one of them too.... conniving lil punk she was.  :)  She purposefully tries to destroy fences and had to keep repairing.

 

Edit:  Snuck up on me. I dont touch Dead or Alive, it looks too sexually focused. And I agree with your assessments on those games. :)  MMORPGs, I played one for a bit only cause it had tiger looking characters in it. Was the first and last one I will ever play, and wont touch again, too much BS in those.


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No need to feel regret, mopotter is right on that.

 

 

I used to own a horse myself. There were a few girls there that when they rode english style, they had those outfits on that are done in shows. One wore browns and blacks, another wore some pink in hers. I never did that english style, I just wore whatever I was wearing. Its been along time since I ridden one now. Ponies, had one of them too.... conniving lil punk she was.  :)  She purposefully tries to destroy fences and had to keep repairing.

 

I ride english myself. My instructor and I laugh as we are not typical 'in the ring' riders. Of course, we do a lot of that to learn concepts but I love trail riding as I'm in the mountains. She thinks it's hilarious that we are out in the woods on crazy terrain riding in english saddles rather than western! I wanted to learn english first as it can be a bit more difficult. After riding english for so long, the bulk of a western saddle makes me feel like I'm in a giant diaper when I ride. lol When I started out, I just wore jeans and a tee but quickly learned the benefit of riding breeches. (Grippy, comfortable and easier to move in while riding). And, I gotta' admit, I love the style.

 

Your pony sounds like a fiesty one! She wanted to be free, eh!

 

ETA: Isabelle, feminist isn't a bad word. Some people try to make it out like people should be ashamed to call themselves a feminist. The word has been hijacked by MRA types and they push a parody of it to scare people away from the word. Feminism is about equality for women and I'm not ashamed to call myself a feminist at all.


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