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[mopotter]

I don't mind a variety, provided that male characters also have a variety. I suppose it can be reflective of your character's personality if one chooses the more feminine style of armour (as shown in the OP) or heavy armour.

 

I don't think heels should be an option though. It would have been silly enough on Hawke, who stayed in Kirkwall pretty much all the time. It would be crazy for someone intended to tromp through the wilderness as well as fight.

I don't really want heels either, but I can visualize the opposition on the ground and the very pointed heel going into their head.  That said, I hope there is an option to change what everyone is wearing and just keeping the heels for special occasions.  

[AppealToReason]

I actually quite like the idea of tabbards/skirts, regardless of gender. I prefer them to leg armor in games when I have the choice

[9TailsFox]

I don't really want heels either, but I can visualize the opposition on the ground and the very pointed heel going into their head.  That said, I hope there is an option to change what everyone is wearing and just keeping the heels for special occasions.  

Heels for rogues.

[Isabelle]

Heels for rogues.

 

Hmm ... this would be a good option in addition to pepper spray

[karushna5]

Imagine a stiletto joke in a DA Game. XD "why do you wear heels they are so impractical"
"Well because, if I ever run out of daggers, I can just use my stilettos, can you use your shoes as a lethal weapon?"

I want masculine ladies really badly but feminine ladies are pretty awesome too.

[Nefla]

Imagine a stiletto joke in a DA Game. XD "why do you wear heels they are so impractical"
"Well because, if I ever run out of daggers, I can just use my stilettos, can you use your shoes as a lethal weapon?"

I want masculine ladies really badly but feminine ladies are pretty awesome too.

I hope we can make both! I also hope that my practical armored ladies can at some point dress up for a ball or infiltration

[Ryzaki]

And for me, this is one of my favorite tops for one my SWTOR characters.  

 

Not all of them, but once in awhile I like having a character that feels she's so good she can wear something to distract the opponent.    One of my wardens loved the Dalish armor one didn't.  I really hope they have some variety.  So i can bring something different into each game.

 

I don't even mind the bikini chainmail sometimes as long as the guys have some skimpy armor to go with it, though actually some of the armor i've seen for guildwars would be my style. 

 

I have my sent running around in that too. It still should've just been as skimpy on males.

[Cainhurst Crow]

Those armors in the pics have some major flaws in them. Then again, most of the armors have flawed portions in them that anyone who cares about practicality would call a lost cause. Pretty much, having more diversity in armor selection and not worrying about practicality as much as aesthetics would be a good route to go, given the history of dragon age.

[hobbit of the shire]

If I were Inquisitor, assumingly having many blacksmiths/armorsmiths on hand, they'd custom-make me some armor.  Maybe death isn't imminent and they even take time to create my armor and I have input.  Not being entirely knowledgeable on how plate is tempered or shaped to maximize strength, I'll assume that creating designs on the plate will not affect the structural integrity of the piece.  I'd probably ask the smith to hammer in some intricate designs.  Would it be girly?  Probably not in an extreme sense.  But maybe some aspects may be more feminine than masculine.  Say maybe a few roses/vines stamped on the plate.  The padding and (functionally) exposed fabric parts?  Eh... maybe purple.   So essentially, I'd have a gender-neutral armor with a few customizations to make it look "feminine".  But the form would be the same.  Equivalently, you could customize the armor to make it more "masculine".  That's how I'd feminize proper armor.

 

So if it were leather armor maybe something like this but I'd pick a more feminine pattern.

 

The frilly bits in the OP I'd think could be part of formal armor, but I'd not want to have that as standard battle armor specifically for the females, as the decreases the functionality of the piece.  If both genders had something to that effect, then maybe, but female armor should be no less functional than the male armor.

[Silcron]

While I am generally against boob plate armor readying this thread I came to realize that it is used in real life, even if it's plastic. I'm a fencer and we have chest protectors made of plastic, the case being that men can choose not to wear it (you get a bit more movility, speed and you're more comfortable, the con is that you are going to feel every single hit, whereas it hurts or not depends on how much force the other person applies) but in the case of women it is compulsory to wear it. I have looked up images but for some reason I don't see the option to put them in this post through my ipad (or copy paste it either) but just look for: "fencing protectors women" in google images.

Maybe it's because they're made of plastic? Or because the boob armor is more comfortable and you life isn't in danger? I don't know but now I'm curious as to why is it used.

TL;DR It turns out a boob chest plate is compulsory for women to wear in fencing.

[aTigerslunch]

If I were Inquisitor, assumingly having many blacksmiths/armorsmiths on hand, they'd custom-make me some armor.  Maybe death isn't imminent and they even take time to create my armor and I have input.  Not being entirely knowledgeable on how plate is tempered or shaped to maximize strength, I'll assume that creating designs on the plate will not affect the structural integrity of the piece.  I'd probably ask the smith to hammer in some intricate designs.  Would it be girly?  Probably not in an extreme sense.  But maybe some aspects may be more feminine than masculine.  Say maybe a few roses/vines stamped on the plate.  The padding and (functionally) exposed fabric parts?  Eh... maybe purple.   So essentially, I'd have a gender-neutral armor with a few customizations to make it look "feminine".  But the form would be the same.  Equivalently, you could customize the armor to make it more "masculine".  That's how I'd feminize proper armor.

Actually, if the armorsmith is good, which they usually are, can make designs in plate armor without hindering protection, though they wouldnt be too elaborate. Its part of why cloth is added to some plates to give more personal feeling to them. Capes, ribbons, tabards and other various things to make them more personal, these are easier than an armorsmith changing style, and much cheaper.

[Uirebhiril]

While I am generally against boob plate armor readying this thread I came to realize that it is used in real life, even if it's plastic. I'm a fencer and we have chest protectors made of plastic, the case being that men can choose not to wear it (you get a bit more movility, speed and you're more comfortable, the con is that you are going to feel every single hit, whereas it hurts or not depends on how much force the other person applies) but in the case of women it is compulsory to wear it.

 

The boob armor I mean is the molded and clearly sexualized version in video games or other art where the breasts are carefully accentuated rather than simply covered and protected. If Hawke can walk around wearing plate armor that wasn't formed into such a shape that her boobs rested in metal cups for all to view, I'm pretty sure we can do away with that idea forever more. I had no trouble knowing my Hawke was female, and neither did anyone else.

 

I'm not even gonna get started on the female Dalish origin armor in DA:O. Just... no more of that ever again. Please. Or give us options to clothe the poor girl in something that will protect vitals if you simply must offer the leather sports bra and skimpy skirt.

[Wulfram]

Yeah, my sister is a fencer and I remember laughing at the chest protector

 

I guess it's different because you're not dealing with the same force of impact?

[Abraham_uk]

Yeah, my sister is a fencer and I remember laughing at the chest protector

 

I guess it's different because you're not dealing with the same force of impact?

 

A fencing specialisation for the rogue complete with fencing related combat gear would be awesome!

[Lady Nuggins]

Yeah, my sister is a fencer and I remember laughing at the chest protector

 

I guess it's different because you're not dealing with the same force of impact?

 

Yeah, if I understand correctly, the problem with the "boob plate" is that a strong blow could force it against your chest and break your collarbone or sternum.  Fencing uses lighter swords, so I imagine the risk of breaking bones in general is pretty minimal.  

 

I looked up a picture for you, Silcron:

 

It looks like this kind of chestplate is also worn close to the skin, whereas plate mail is usually worn over layers of fabric (because who in their right mind would wear metal plate directly on their skin?), which is another reason why boob plates are completely unnecessary.  It's also plastic, so even if you fell flat on the ground, it might hurt, but it probably won't injure you.  

[Will the Blood Mage]

Didn't a bunch of archers that where wearing light to no armor, Kill a bunch of heavly armored knighs at the battle of Ashencore. Th e French knights got stuck in the mud and didn't even have high heels on

[Isabelle]

Oh no ... boob plate is too apellative 

 

 

In this illustration, the artist values ​​the thorax without using boob plate.

 

[naddaya]

Oh no ... boob plate is too apellative 

 

 

In this illustration, the artist values ​​the thorax without using boob plate.

 

 

I'd cover the shoulder, but this one looks great overall

[maia0407]

I do not want heels in battle for women unless they are offered as an equally ridiculous option for both genders to traipse around the field breaking their ankes in the heat of battle. Equaly opportunity idiocy, FTW! Same goes for skirts. The battle skirt looking things in origins were fine but I do not want to see bits of fabric flying around to get stuck in something.

Actually, you know, since heels were once useful as equestrian footwear, and we now have horse riding...

Riding boots still have a heel to prevent the foot from sliding through the stirrups. Bad things can happen if your foot gets stuck in the stirrup when you, say, fall off and your foot is stuck so you get dragged by the horse. BUT, these are not heels in the sense that the OP is proposing (based on the images presented). They are square and no more than an inch in height. I cannot imagine mounting or dismounting a horse in actual high heels! Lol! Here's an example of riding boots:

 

 

I really don't know what kind of footwear mounted infantry wears. Most modern day riding boots aren't good for slogging through mud and what not as they are also slick. Awhile ago, I was leading my horse down a steep muddy hill as it was too dangerous to ride down. She was slipping and so was I. Let me tell you, having a 1200 lb animal sliding behind you is unnerving. Anyway, she started to slide into me and I accidently dropped the reins in my haste to get away. She turned around and took off up the hill into the forest. I freaked as dangling reins can be dangerous for a horse (they can get tangled and injure themselves) and tried to walk back up the muddy hill in my riding boots. I fell face first as I couldn't get any traction. I got up, tried again and faceplanted again. Luckily, I was able to coax her back to me. At any rate, riding boots aren't the best example of what people should be wearing in battle. Although, they are probably light years better than high heels!

[aTigerslunch]

Didn't a bunch of archers that where wearing light to no armor, Kill a bunch of heavly armored knighs at the battle of Ashencore. Th e French knights got stuck in the mud and didn't even have high heels on

Thats why the light infantry or light cavalry are there, to get after archers quickly. Archers can rule most all battlefields if dont have proper counter offensives. Enemies with crossbows also cause problems for having plate armor worn.

[Will the Blood Mage]

Thats why the light infantry or light cavalry are there, to get after archers quickly. Archers can rule most all battlefields if dont have proper counter offensives. Enemies with crossbows also cause problems for having plate armor worn.

 

Yes but they killed the knights in hand to hand combat. So just because you are wearing the best plat armor money can buy you can still get owned by light to no armor troops.

 

As for the look of the armor on the OPs first post i like it. But i like just about any thing as long as it looks cool. Whether it makes sense in a fight or not.

[aTigerslunch]

Yes but they killed the knights in hand to hand combat. So just because you are wearing the best plat armor money can buy you can still get owned by light to no armor troops.

As for the look of the armor on the OPs first post i like it. But i like just about any thing as long as it looks cool. Whether it makes sense in a fight or not.

Yes, Thats true, breastplates were more liked than full plate. Honestly, I wouldnt wear full armor less it was flexible and light. Wearing a Kevlar helmet during road marches and such after a time was quite unbearable. Its funny to watch someone in full heavy plate fall over and try to get back up.

[karushna5]

Yes, Thats true, breastplates were more liked than full plate. Honestly, I wouldnt wear full armor less it was flexible and light. Wearing a Kevlar helmet during road marches and such after a time was quite unbearable. Its funny to watch someone in full heavy plate fall over and try to get back up.

People often make the mistake of thinking it was super heavy. It wasnt. It was a whole lot lighter than most people portray it as. Sorta falls under being told it is so heavy for so long, realism seems unrealistic

[aTigerslunch]

Isnt fullplate over 30 lbs? I may have to recheck, I know its wearable so could wear for a certain length of time. But its comfort level after so long does go down.

The guy hadnt worn it before, and was quite clumsy to begin with. It was only one time for a minute before he thought about it and wasnt due to the actual weight. We still think he did it on purpose to be goofy. Sorry, I didnt paint this picture right.

[karushna5]

Actually more like 45lbs but this is distributed throughout the whole body. Less than a modern soldier in comparison due to the weight distribution. Also they were highly mobile. And there are records of knights doing acrobatic stunts of small measure when in full plate. This is due to each bit of armor made specifically for each limb and area.

The reason we think it is heavy was tournament armor was very different and was highly limiting. This is not what knights fought in war however, which may have been what your friend may have had his armor based on?

Oh you painted it fine. Just lots of people on here seem to think armor is very weighty, I have been looking them up, and am surprised just how mobile they really Are!

Modifié par karushna5, 15 mai 2014 - 01:37 .